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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Echo4]

The Centre for Independent Studies think tank

"The Centre for Independent Studies is an Australian libertarian think tank"

There you have it.

Biased as anything and you eat it up.

[facilitatorn]

WIP:  one smells better,  looks better, works better, and runs better?

The Limberger baby.

[facilitatorn]

The Centre for Independent Studies think tank

"The Centre for Independent Studies is an Australian libertarian think tank"

There you have it.

Biased as anything and you eat it up.

Think tank gets defensive about its low quality, trite, irrelevant ideas: news at 11.

[bodiddley]

Besides that, there are no windows...and in America those doors in the ground are easily opened and entered by the bad people.

You've got it wrong.  Basements are mostly below the ground except for about 2+ feet or so, allowing for small windows close to ground level that provide natural light.  Those are an easy entry point for criminals. 

Metal basement doors otoh often haven't been opened in a long time and are fairly well-locked and stubborn.  My father recently discovered that tree roots had pushed the concrete and metal so that the one door wouldn't open anymore and the other was mostly wedged in too.  Also, once you open the outer metal doors, there might well be a second interior door to contend with.  Often times those are nothing too substantial, but could be for the security conscious.

Much easier to kick in or jimmy a small window and then slither in than try to pry open a large noisy metal door.  And since there are lots of low basement windows, usually one or more will be obscured by bushes providing cover, whereas the basement doors will usually be kept clear and visible.

Otherwise I think only old-fashioned and perhaps more rural basement doors are flat against the ground.  More common, last 40+ years is to have raised slanted doors.  I assume because they are easier to open, as you don't have to bend all the way down and then pull up, plus if anything thing lands or falls on such doors it slides off rather than accumulates and weighs on the doors.  Sheds rain water better too.

Personally I favor incorporating the sump pump into my basement torture routine in order to obtain a more authentic feel.

[bodiddley]

. No more fracking in America.
. 100% renewables by...a certain impossible time. [even Left/Far Left downunder have realised that the same policy they had was an error.]
. America taken back to the Paris accord.

Fracking results in significant pollution.  The petroleum industry has been dispersing its externalizes blithely for decades.  We pay for that in cleanup costs, worse health, degraded environment.  Fracking should be well regulated but also studied as it might not be beneficial at all.  Especially if wind and solar are heavily ramped up, so that oil usage and prices drop.  Fracking is only profitable if oil prices are fairly high (above $40 and really above $50 to make a profit).

100% renewables an the Paris Accords are goals.
Under PA each country sets its own voluntary target that it tires to achieve with no enforcement mechanism for failure to reach the target.  Wow, how draconian.  It's a goal, it's aspirational.

[facilitatorn]

Climate shmimate,

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/17/death-valley-temperature-rises-to-544c-possibly-the-hottest-ever-reliably-recorded

This is an isolated article about weather. No cause for concern. Coal sandwiches are still on sale in the lobby.

[bodiddley]

40% or more CV tests in America are largely useless, because the results take too long. 



Also, most of the states with long average turnaround times of 3-6 day averages  are where the outbreaks are, and the backlog is due to increased testing.

So the testing that Trump boasts about is dysfunctional and nearly half the time fails its purpose.

By around March 15 when the US response finally started, China was already using cheap rapid antigen tests, which is what the Chinese have relied on primarily the entire time.  Back in late March results were mostly available in 4 to 5 hours, though the next day in some provinces.  Quick results are essential for isolation and contact tracing.

Since then the antigen tests have become better and faster, now taking around 15 to 30 minutes.  Why the hell are states fiddling around with slower and more complicated tests that need special reagents and have to be sent to overburdened labs?  China defeated CV with antigen tests.  Quick results are key.

“It’s really clear that if tests take more than 48 hours, you’ve lost the window for contact tracing,” Dr. Ashish Jha, professor of global health at Harvard University, said in an interview. “I think, basically, beyond 72 hours, the test is close to useless.”

[bodiddley]

The FDA approved the first antigen test for CV-19 back on May 11.  Seems fairly late since that's two or three months after China was using such.  But that's still 3 months ago.

Unclear why cheap and fast antigen tests didn't become the standard.  Wouldn't you want your test result within half an hour rather than half a week or more?  While the public health benefits are obvious. 

[facilitatorn]

I can’t help but notice the state that subjected itself to the horrendous mismanagement of mike pence is the darkest on your map, Bo. According to the legend, this indicates it has fucked up it’s testing programs throughly enough to have the worst results among the states in the nation with the worst leadership and results in the developed world. The shame of pence runs deep and hurts on every level. He is the rare human who truly deserves to be drowned in feces.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pkyv4k/internal-usps-documents-outline-plans-to-hobble-mail-sorting

Should trump and his cronies, including adult offspring and their bedmates, be set on fire and then buried in feces or be buried in feces which is then set on fire?

In the name of justice we should have an answer to this very important question in American jurisprudence.

[bodiddley]

"In the 245 years of the Postal Service, no one has seen political attacks like this," said James O'Rourke, a professor of management at the University of Notre Dame who specializes in the Postal Service. "While for a long time we thought this was not politically driven, it's becoming increasingly transparent in recent days that this is almost entirely political."

Winifred Gallagher, author of "How the Post Office Created America," said the closest historical analogy is President Andrew Jackson - a self-styled populist whose portrait Trump hung in the Oval Office soon after moving in.

When Jackson was elected in 1828, Gallagher said, "the post office was the federal government as most Americans experienced it," considering at least three-quarters of federal workers were employed by the Postal Service. Once in office, Jackson replaced 13 percent of postal workers - almost all of whom had been aligned with his predecessor, John Quincy Adams - with loyalists, even though many of the new workers had no postal experience.

"That's what this reminds me of, this kind of politicization," Gallagher said. "You really have to go back to Jackson to see it."

Trump's changes at the Postal Service dovetail with a long-envisioned ideological project on the political right to privatize the service, a cause advanced by the billionaire industrialist Charles Koch and his late brother, David Koch, as well as other conservatives.

I assume privatization is the postal service is intended to strangle/end unionization of such workers.  And the collateral damage to the black middle class is just a bonus for them.

[facilitatorn]

"In the 245 years of the Postal Service, no one has seen political attacks like this," said James O'Rourke, a professor of management at the University of Notre Dame who specializes in the Postal Service. "While for a long time we thought this was not politically driven, it's becoming increasingly transparent in recent days that this is almost entirely political."

Winifred Gallagher, author of "How the Post Office Created America," said the closest historical analogy is President Andrew Jackson - a self-styled populist whose portrait Trump hung in the Oval Office soon after moving in.

When Jackson was elected in 1828, Gallagher said, "the post office was the federal government as most Americans experienced it," considering at least three-quarters of federal workers were employed by the Postal Service. Once in office, Jackson replaced 13 percent of postal workers - almost all of whom had been aligned with his predecessor, John Quincy Adams - with loyalists, even though many of the new workers had no postal experience.

"That's what this reminds me of, this kind of politicization," Gallagher said. "You really have to go back to Jackson to see it."

Trump's changes at the Postal Service dovetail with a long-envisioned ideological project on the political right to privatize the service, a cause advanced by the billionaire industrialist Charles Koch and his late brother, David Koch, as well as other conservatives.

I assume privatization is the postal service is intended to strangle/end unionization of such workers.  And the collateral damage to the black middle class is just a bonus for them.

Your time wading through Red, Kiid, and Bambi bullshit was not entirely wasted. It, I’m sure in part, has led you to a keen understanding of the workings of “conservative” “minds”.

[bambu.]

. No more fracking in America.
. 100% renewables by...a certain impossible time. [even Left/Far Left downunder have realised that the same policy they had was an error.]
. America taken back to the Paris accord.

Fracking results in significant pollution.  The petroleum industry has been dispersing its externalizes blithely for decades.  We pay for that in cleanup costs, worse health, degraded environment.  Fracking should be well regulated but also studied as it might not be beneficial at all.  Especially if wind and solar are heavily ramped up, so that oil usage and prices drop.  Fracking is only profitable if oil prices are fairly high (above $40 and really above $50 to make a profit).

100% renewables an the Paris Accords are goals.
Under PA each country sets its own voluntary target that it tires to achieve with no enforcement mechanism for failure to reach the target.  Wow, how draconian.  It's a goal, it's aspirational.

Wind turbines...baaah, if put anywhere near animals and humans.

Nearest whole percentage of energy generated from wind turbines globally?
Zero.
Because they're a menace to the health of humans and animals.

[bambu.]

273.6 million vehicles

Some 273.6 million vehicles were registered here in 2018. The figures include passenger cars, motorcycles, trucks, buses, and other vehicles. The number of cars sold in the U.S. per year stood at 6.3 million in 2016.

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And they can all be changed to electric vehicles to get the Left's 'zero emisssions'?
No they can't.
Zero emissions is a fantasy, in any sort of time this century.
People promising such fantasy should be made say exactly how they'd be doing it, how much it would cost, and how much delay there would be in the ice and snow as motorists queue for charging stations on the highways.

[facilitatorn]

You can lead an asshole to better information, but you can’t make him think.

http://www.c2es.org/content/renewable-energy/