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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bankshot1]

Now companies may delay capex to reduce expenses and conserve capital, but they do not shit-can highly automated machines presumably paid for and most likely fully depreciated (that means no depreciation charge against income Red) that perform functions at a fraction of the cost and multiples of the speed that human labor will presumably perform the same task.

Not to mention that REDSTATEWARD needs reminding again (or for the fifteenth time) that the United States Postal Service is not a Business.

Maybe we should run USPS as a business. But cutting efficient machines that do tasks at very low costs as Red suggests isn't the way to do it.

Perhaps we should rationalize services in other ways. Like how profitable are they and can they justify their existence? 

Hell airlines drop unprofitable routes or fly them once a week at very high costs.  Its just business. 

For example, delivering mail in highly populated areas like NYC, Boston, Chicago, Philly, Detroit, LA, SF, Atlanta, is probably pretty efficient with lots of volume and can be run through machines very efficiently and carriers can deliver to lots of people living in densely populated apartment buildings in densely settled neighborhoods. But the cost and convenience of mail delivery in the hinterlands like parts of northern Maine, or Kentucky in the mountains (cue dueling Banjos) or some plains stes, or a lot of the western states like Wyoming, Montana,  the Dakotas, Alaska, might  be cost prohibitive and produce disproportionate USPS losses.   Hell if it costs you $5.00 to deliver a single piece of mail in Bum Fuck Nowhere , Idaho, not counting gas money, you might rethink the menu choices or maybe the pricing strategy. 

Maybe 1st class postage for a letter in NYC and other large cites is $0,55 and is delivered all week, and is profitable. Maybe in exurban western areas (sorry Bart-nothing personal its just business) ts $5.55 and delivery is once a week. or once every two weeks, or once a month. Sure there might be a little incovenience and people might get there bills, pills and social security check in a less timely manner, and there might be some repercussions, but so what business rationalize and downsizes unprofitable products and services all the time.

Red  shouldn't have an issue with that, he's all business and bottom-line oriented. NYC Boston and the large metro areas will get mail-in ballots as they can pay the freight and the USPS can make a buck or two, while rural America gets fargoed.

just a thought.

[Echo4]

129.2F in California today.
Sympathy to anyone not living in airconditioning.

That's in Death Valley National Park, Bambi. The 525 people who live in the national park thank you.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Now companies may delay capex to reduce expenses and conserve capital, but they do not shit-can highly automated machines presumably paid for and most likely fully depreciated (that means no depreciation charge against income Red) that perform functions at a fraction of the cost and multiples of the speed that human labor will presumably perform the same task.

Not to mention that REDSTATEWARD needs reminding again (or for the fifteenth time) that the United States Postal Service is not a Business.

Maybe we should run USPS as a business. But cutting efficient machines that do tasks at very low costs as Red suggests isn't the way to do it.

Perhaps we should rationalize services in other ways. Like how profitable are they and can they justify their existence? 

Hell airlines drop unprofitable routes or fly them once a week at very high costs.  Its just business. 

For example, delivering mail in highly populated areas like NYC, Boston, Chicago, Philly, Detroit, LA, SF, Atlanta, is probably pretty efficient with lots of volume and can be run through machines very efficiently and carriers can deliver to lots of people living in densely populated apartment buildings in densely settled neighborhoods. But the cost and convenience of mail delivery in the hinterlands like parts of northern Maine, or Kentucky in the mountains (cue dueling Banjos) or some plains stes, or a lot of the western states like Wyoming, Montana,  the Dakotas, Alaska, might  be cost prohibitive and produce disproportionate USPS losses.   Hell if it costs you $5.00 to deliver a single piece of mail in Bum Fuck Nowhere , Idaho, not counting gas money, you might rethink the menu choices or maybe the pricing strategy. 

Maybe 1st class postage for a letter in NYC and other large cites is $0,55 and is delivered all week, and is profitable. Maybe in exurban western areas (sorry Bart-nothing personal its just business) ts $5.55 and delivery is once a week. or once every two weeks, or once a month. Sure there might be a little incovenience and people might get there bills, pills and social security check in a less timely manner, and there might be some repercussions, but so what business rationalize and downsizes unprofitable products and services all the time.

Red  shouldn't have an issue with that, he's all business and bottom-line oriented. NYC Boston and the large metro areas will get mail-in ballots as they can pay the freight and the USPS can make a buck or two, while rural America gets fargoed.

just a thought.

Now that's how you run a business! I cosign 100%.  In fact you should put your name in for Postmaster General CEO under Biden.

[FlyingVProd]

Ivanka Trump has been traveling around the world giving business loans to the women, she should also give business loans to the disabled people. And of course the White men should not be black-listed, us White guys need to be able to get business loans just like everyone else.

One business idea for right here in my neighborhood, is a book publishing business, a person could publish their own books, and they could publish books for their friends and family, and they could publish books for the stars in Hollywood and stuff.

And the way I learned it is that the publisher gets 33% of the money, the author gets 33% of the money, and the bookstore gets 33% of the money.

If you publish a book for Jeff Bridges, then you get 33%, Jeff gets 33%, and the bookstore gets 33%.

It would be easy money.

Another business idea is to open bookstores at the train stations, and at the Greyhound bus stations, you could start by buying all of the used books from the thrift stores and selling the used books at the train stations and at the Greyhound stations, etc. Hire the most beautiful women to work at your bookstores, and you will sell lots of books. And the train ride is so much better with a good book and snacks, etc.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bankshot1]

Now companies may delay capex to reduce expenses and conserve capital, but they do not shit-can highly automated machines presumably paid for and most likely fully depreciated (that means no depreciation charge against income Red) that perform functions at a fraction of the cost and multiples of the speed that human labor will presumably perform the same task.

Not to mention that REDSTATEWARD needs reminding again (or for the fifteenth time) that the United States Postal Service is not a Business.

Maybe we should run USPS as a business. But cutting efficient machines that do tasks at very low costs as Red suggests isn't the way to do it.

Perhaps we should rationalize services in other ways. Like how profitable are they and can they justify their existence? 

Hell airlines drop unprofitable routes or fly them once a week at very high costs.  Its just business. 

For example, delivering mail in highly populated areas like NYC, Boston, Chicago, Philly, Detroit, LA, SF, Atlanta, is probably pretty efficient with lots of volume and can be run through machines very efficiently and carriers can deliver to lots of people living in densely populated apartment buildings in densely settled neighborhoods. But the cost and convenience of mail delivery in the hinterlands like parts of northern Maine, or Kentucky in the mountains (cue dueling Banjos) or some plains stes, or a lot of the western states like Wyoming, Montana,  the Dakotas, Alaska, might  be cost prohibitive and produce disproportionate USPS losses.   Hell if it costs you $5.00 to deliver a single piece of mail in Bum Fuck Nowhere , Idaho, not counting gas money, you might rethink the menu choices or maybe the pricing strategy. 

Maybe 1st class postage for a letter in NYC and other large cites is $0,55 and is delivered all week, and is profitable. Maybe in exurban western areas (sorry Bart-nothing personal its just business) ts $5.55 and delivery is once a week. or once every two weeks, or once a month. Sure there might be a little incovenience and people might get there bills, pills and social security check in a less timely manner, and there might be some repercussions, but so what business rationalize and downsizes unprofitable products and services all the time.

Red  shouldn't have an issue with that, he's all business and bottom-line oriented. NYC Boston and the large metro areas will get mail-in ballots as they can pay the freight and the USPS can make a buck or two, while rural America gets fargoed.

just a thought.

Now that's how you run a business! I cosign 100%.  In fact you should put your name in for Postmaster General CEO under Biden.

I heard Newman is first choice as Biden's PMG

[REDSTATEWARD]

Now companies may delay capex to reduce expenses and conserve capital, but they do not shit-can highly automated machines presumably paid for and most likely fully depreciated (that means no depreciation charge against income Red) that perform functions at a fraction of the cost and multiples of the speed that human labor will presumably perform the same task.

Not to mention that REDSTATEWARD needs reminding again (or for the fifteenth time) that the United States Postal Service is not a Business.

But, of course, it is.  It receives no federal funding.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Now companies may delay capex to reduce expenses and conserve capital, but they do not shit-can highly automated machines presumably paid for and most likely fully depreciated (that means no depreciation charge against income Red) that perform functions at a fraction of the cost and multiples of the speed that human labor will presumably perform the same task.

Not to mention that REDSTATEWARD needs reminding again (or for the fifteenth time) that the United States Postal Service is not a Business.

But, of course, it is.  It receives no federal funding.

No, no federal funding at all.  It just borrows billions from the federal government that it doesn't need to pay back every year.   And if you think receiving federal funding is the only thing that would distinguish it from a "business" maybe you need to head back to Econ 101.

The USPS is a government agency. Not a business.

[NeedsAdjustments]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/17/louis-dejoy-usps-postmaster-general-election

[REDSTATEWARD]

Now companies may delay capex to reduce expenses and conserve capital, but they do not shit-can highly automated machines presumably paid for and most likely fully depreciated (that means no depreciation charge against income Red) that perform functions at a fraction of the cost and multiples of the speed that human labor will presumably perform the same task.

Not to mention that REDSTATEWARD needs reminding again (or for the fifteenth time) that the United States Postal Service is not a Business.

But, of course, it is.  It receives no federal funding.

No, no federal funding at all.  It just borrows billions from the federal government that it doesn't need to pay back every year.   

Uh, no. It spends more than it earns and has for a long time.
Co-vid has brought about the only change in its finances 

The CARES Act authorizes the USPS to borrow up to $10 billion from Treasury for operating expenses if the USPS determines that, due to the COVID-19 emergency, it will not be able to fund operating expenses without borrowing money.

The USPS is a government agency. Not a business.

No it’s a poorly run business thanks to Washington politicians.

[facilitatorn]

USPS is poorly run to the extent that it is poorly run thanks to Washington republican politicians.

129.2F in California today.
Sympathy to anyone not living in airconditioning.

That's in Death Valley National Park, Bambi. The 525 people who live in the national park thank you.

81F and partly cloudy in my patch presently. It’s a bit muggy so it feels like 83F.

[NeedsAdjustments]

No, no federal funding at all.  It just borrows billions from the federal government that it doesn't need to pay back every year.   

Uh, no. It spends more than it earns and has for a long time.

Uh huh..now where does it get the money to cover those losses?

No it’s a poorly run business thanks to Washington politicians.

I think bankshot's proposed reforms are spot-on.  My hope is that Newman turns down the offer.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/17/1969979/-School-reopens-COVID-19-cases-emerge-Rinse-and-repeat-700-times

Trump is geared up to kill 500,000 of us if he just manages to finish out this term. He’s got his foot to the floor for American carnage.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/17/1970075/-Top-DHS-staffer-under-Trump-says-pr-sident-has-damaged-the-country-in-countless-ways

[facilitatorn]

http://youtu.be/ADaDy7ClSDQ

Deep down he knows.

[facilitatorn]

http://thebulwark.com/bidens-policy-agenda-is-bold-but-not-radical/