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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

I'm not into labels, but the only way Joe Biden is a "Moderate Republican" is by re-defining by what the Democratic and Republican Parties are.

Biden is an old-fashioned FDR coalition type of Democrat.  You can like it or not and want the Democratic Party to be different these days but in any event he's no Republican even with a tortured re-definition. 

It's also my view that if enough people actually view Biden as a "Moderate Republican" Trump is going to win again...

I am in favor of leaving ideological purity "XINO" tests to the Tea Party types. If Biden is a.moderate Republican, so, essentially,  am I.

Biden is a Centerist Democrat with the support of moderate republicans, principled Conservatives, and sincere religious voters, and anyone with a stake in a strong future for the United States.

Biden is going to be called every name under the sun, but we’ll be glad when he’s President even if it’s over trump, pence, and Mitch’s dead bodies.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/20/1970881/-Is-the-entire-American-conservative-movement-just-one-big-scam

Suckers!

But Trump hasn't always been so sour on the project. The New York Times reported last summer that the president gave the group his "blessing," according to former Kansas gubernatorial candidate Kris Kobach, who sits on the board of "We Build the Wall."

Trump's son, Donald Trump, Jr., praised the private border wall effort last summer, saying the group "is what capitalism is all about."

"This is private enterprise at its finest," he said in 2019, according to the El Paso Times.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/20/donald-trump-steve-bannon-arrest-399313

Be best, America.

[facilitatorn]

Former ambassador to Iraq, John Negroponte endorsed Biden.

Bernie and Negroponte are actively backing the same candidate for president.

There is much less ideological divide in this country than an infection of a pyramid scheme that parades as trump’s republican party.

There’s gonna be one hell of a purge after trump is deposed.

[barton]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/20/1970881/-Is-the-entire-American-conservative-movement-just-one-big-scam

Suckers!

Great essay.

   The truth is that there is no secret knowledge. Knowledge is available to anyone. It’s just that becoming a real expert on anything requires years of study and experience. It doesn’t come in a weekend seminar, or in a ring-binder priced higher than a Midwestern home. The truth is also that things change. Places change. Institutions change. Countries change. No one can promise that they won’t. Pretending otherwise is no more than selling snake oil. And of course, Republicans are at that, too. Isn’t that right, My Pillow guy?

[barton]

I agree XINO labels are pointless and probably silly,  but I do regret that the label wasn't used on some Whigs.   Then WINO would have been an acronym. 

[josh]

I agree XINO labels are pointless and probably silly,  but I do regret that the label wasn't used on some Whigs.   Then WINO would have been an acronym.

Acronym   Definition
WINO   Wife in Name Only
WINO   Wine Investigation for Novices and Oenophiles (California)

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/bill-cassidy-coronavirus/index.html

Senator Cassidy (R-LA) has COVID-19

[bankshot1]

I appreciate the discussion and clarification of where Biden falls on the Dem political spectrum.

I had him as old-school mostly bleeding heart liberal.

But perhaps you guys can clear uo where Trump would like to fall on the SUPREME LEADER dictator wannabe scale

Mussoilini Moderate

Pinochet Populist

Castro Convertible Conservative

Franco Fascist

Duvalier Despot

Putin Progressive

or rather as an

Idid Amin for all season all purpose psychopath dictator

thanks in advance

[LarryBnDC]

The cruelty is the point.

This Administration will be prosecuted for crimes against humanity...


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-cabinet-officials-voted-2018-white-house-meeting-separate-migrant-n1237416

[barton]

Banks,

I was calling him Moose O'Leany for a while here,  because of some stylistic similarities I had noticed watching old footage of Benito.   But I see a pinch of Amin psychopathy in there,  too.  In terms of policies, ideology,  and resulting crises,  he seems more like a Pinochet.   But a reeaallllly stupid version.   Which may prove fortunate.

[facilitatorn]

I appreciate the discussion and clarification of where Biden falls on the Dem political spectrum.

I had him as old-school mostly bleeding heart liberal.

But perhaps you guys can clear uo where Trump would like to fall on the SUPREME LEADER dictator wannabe scale

Mussoilini Moderate

Pinochet Populist

Castro Convertible Conservative

Franco Fascist

Duvalier Despot

Putin Progressive

or rather as an

Idid Amin for all season all purpose psychopath dictator

thanks in advance

Red Queen

and you are very welcome

[facilitatorn]

Representation matters.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/how-trump-politicized-usps-398764

[LarryBnDC]

Banks,

I was calling him Moose O'Leany for a while here,  because of some stylistic similarities I had noticed watching old footage of Benito.   But I see a pinch of Amin psychopathy in there,  too.  In terms of policies, ideology,  and resulting crises,  he seems more like a Pinochet.   But a reeaallllly stupid version.   Which may prove fortunate.

He reminds me of the Mussolini clips Lena Wertmuller used in the opening montage of ‘Seven Beauties.’

[LarryBnDC]

http://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/how-trump-politicized-usps-398764

The Empire Strikes Back


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/8/20/21377305/postal-service-steve-bannon-arrest