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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

Of course the violence will continue under Trump. The man has no interest in stopping it.


What do you call sending/offering federal officers?

Pretty much what is within his capabilities by law.

You think Trump saying "everyone just calllllm down now" - or quoting peaceful leaders of yesteryear, etc will have any effect?

Oh. So there is nothing a President can do to end the violence?  So Trump’s entire convention was bullshit?  Good to know. 

Trump is encouraging more of his followers to meet BLM protests with violent responses. This will lead to more violence. Trump thinks this violence is good for his re-election.

If you are truly to dense to follow these basic facts, you are too dense to be worth the time.

Says the poster who denied any violence all summer.
But now, it’s Trump’s fault.
Biden just told us that’s a lie.

[bankshot1]

It was a since removed Facebook post that had armed men - and yes, it is legal to carry in Kenosha - to the city to help protect businesses after two nights of insanity.

Yeah, they were there to "protect businesses:"

Ryan Balch, a 31-year-old Wisconsin man who joined Kyle Rittenhouse and a contingent of militia conducting armed patrols in Kenosha, used his social media accounts to link to a Nazi propaganda video, amplified white nationalist Richard Spencer, and uploaded symbols associated with the so-called boogaloo movement, Hatewatch determined.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/08/30/wisconsin-man-who-says-he-marched-rittenhouse-kenosha-was-immersed-white-supremacist

Either you are in on it, or you are one gullible motherfucker.  As always the case with a Trumpist, a non-consequential distinction.

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And btw, shooting looters is still murder even in places where it is "legal to carry."

You conveniently ignore the facts of what occurred with Rittenhouse

And now you say this 31-year old Nazi lover was out there for no good - while nothing bad happened.

Yes, some white supremacists answered the Facebook call.  Proves nothing, except they were up for unpaid public service.

kid-what kind of public service do you think is approproate for gun-carrying white supremacists. or members of American Nazis party?

Do you think they have the training, aptitude or all the other necessary skills to in fact to carry out anything remotely associated with public service?

[Echo4]

It gets ugly because it has snowballed - from the very moment the first officers were hit with buckets of water - to laughter.

This is part of the problem, Kid, and a big part.

To you it wasn't ugly until then.

To the protesters, to me, to hundreds of thousands of others, if not millions, in this country, it has been ugly for a long long time and the fact that it only looks ugly to you when the officers are hit with water and laughter speaks volumes.

[kiidcarter8]

Do you think they have the training, aptitude or all the other necessary skills to in fact to carry out anything remotely associated with public service?



Nope - not with any percentage of certainty

Which is why attacking a citizen while he is holding a firearm is stupid as hell.



Let me add - Rittenhouse going there was also stupid.  But lawful, from what we to this point know.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Of course the violence will continue under Trump. The man has no interest in stopping it.


What do you call sending/offering federal officers?

Pretty much what is within his capabilities by law.

You think Trump saying "everyone just calllllm down now" - or quoting peaceful leaders of yesteryear, etc will have any effect?

Oh. So there is nothing a President can do to end the violence?  So Trump’s entire convention was bullshit?  Good to know. 

Trump is encouraging more of his followers to meet BLM protests with violent responses. This will lead to more violence. Trump thinks this violence is good for his re-election.

If you are truly to dense to follow these basic facts, you are too dense to be worth the time.

Says the poster who denied any violence all summer.
But now, it’s Trump’s fault.
Biden just told us that’s a lie.

Lol!  Want to try that again?

[bankshot1]

Yes we've had violence this summer.

Police violence and murder caught on tape and seen by millions of outraged Americans and civilian violence in response.

I suspect that civilian violence unfortunately has been amplified by other factors like fear and unemployment and death due in part to Trump's gross incompetence in managing a crisis. And by Trump's using this violence as a campaign strategy to distract and deflect from his gross incompetence as a leader. His hope is hatred and division and americans hating americans will oover-up his negligence and weakness.

How the fuck can we re-elect this inept cancerous tumor?

And despite Trump's cowardly refusal to accept any responsibility for all he's caused he in fact owns the shit show he allowed to mushroom and turn into a massive national crisis.

The man is a coward.

[barton]

Of course the violence will continue under Trump. The man has no interest in stopping it.


You think Trump saying "everyone just calllllm down now" - or quoting peaceful leaders of yesteryear, etc will have any effect?

How about Trump saying something that shows he gives a shit about the lives of people of color and how they are treated by our system of justice?   How about showing some tiny speck of support for millions of peaceful demonstrators on behalf of black lives?   How about not antagonizing people who are already upset and frightened by law enforcement with threats of paramilitary aggression?   How about acting for five milliseconds like he cares about anyone but himself,  his rich cronies,  and his future prospects of deification by white nationalist America and its various deplorables?   

Jesus fuck.   There's got to be one or two cells left in your brain that are capable of sensing that character matters,  and that all of us opposing Trump are seeing profound lapses of character in this so called president.    Do you not EVER fucking open your mind enough to make some attempt to find out what we're seeing that seems to elude you?   Holy fuck,  I've crapped out turds that are better people than you.   

[NeedsAdjustments]

Do you think they have the training, aptitude or all the other necessary skills to in fact to carry out anything remotely associated with public service?



Nope - not with any percentage of certainty

Which is why attacking a citizen while he is holding a firearm is stupid as hell.

Just shut up and calmly follow the instructions of the 17 year old with the gun and you will be just fine.

If the kid with the gun is White and a Trump supporter, makes perfect sense in kiidcarter8’s world. He is too stupid to imagine that he might not be ok with the situation otherwise.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Of course the violence will continue under Trump. The man has no interest in stopping it.


You think Trump saying "everyone just calllllm down now" - or quoting peaceful leaders of yesteryear, etc will have any effect?

How about Trump saying something that shows he gives a shit about the lives of people of color and how they are treated by our system of justice?   How about showing some tiny speck of support for millions of peaceful demonstrators on behalf of black lives?   How about not antagonizing people who are already upset and frightened by law enforcement with threats of paramilitary aggression?   How about acting for five milliseconds like he cares about anyone but himself,  his rich cronies,  and his future prospects of deification by white nationalist America and its various deplorables?   

Jesus fuck.   There's got to be one or two cells left in your brain that are capable of sensing that character matters,  and that all of us opposing Trump are seeing profound lapses of character in this so called president.    Do you not EVER fucking open your mind enough to make some attempt to find out what we're seeing that seems to elude you?   Holy fuck,  I've crapped out turds that are better people than you.

kiidcarter8 proves on this forum, daily, that he would castrate himself if Trump told him it served the cause.

But he just can’t imagine his telling his followers to calm down will have any effect at all.

[kiidcarter8]

Just shut up and calmly follow the instructions of the 17 year old with the gun and you will be just fine.



Ignoring him likely would have worked

[bankshot1]

Do you think they have the training, aptitude or all the other necessary skills to in fact to carry out anything remotely associated with public service?



Nope - not with any percentage of certainty

Which is why attacking a citizen while he is holding a firearm is stupid as hell.



Let me add - Rittenhouse going there was also stupid.  But lawful, from what we to this point know.

It was stupid and he was under-age.

Under Wisconsin statutes that say anyone under 18 who "goes armed" with any deadly weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, was not old enough to legally carry the assault-style rifle he had.

So the white supremacists are not trained nor skilled nor have the aptititude to provide public service and Rittenhouse was not lawfully entitled to carry a fire-arm.

So you're good with this because...

they're white supremacists?

[NeedsAdjustments]

Just shut up and calmly follow the instructions of the 17 year old with the gun and you will be just fine.



Ignoring him likely would have worked

Yeah?  If the kid was planning on being fine with being ignored while “protecting businesses” then what was he doing with a gun?

[kiidcarter8]

But he just can’t imagine his telling his followers to calm down will have any effect at all.



heh

The looters and rioters, chap.  Zero effect - yeah, I stand by that.

[Echo4]

Do you think they have the training, aptitude or all the other necessary skills to in fact to carry out anything remotely associated with public service?



Nope - not with any percentage of certainty

Which is why attacking a citizen while he is holding a firearm is stupid as hell.



Let me add - Rittenhouse going there was also stupid.  But lawful, from what we to this point know.

Yeah. Screw the age issue and the curfew issue.

Totally legal.

"From what we to this point ignore."

[kiidcarter8]

Yeah?  If the kid was planning on being fine with being ignored while “protecting businesses” then what was he doing with a gun?



He was answering the call to action by the Facebook post

And they rightfully figured some protesters were armed (as previously stated, Rittenhouse did not fire the first shot)