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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[oilcan]

  On Friday, dozens of mostly maskless Trump supporters in red Make America Great Again hats showed up near Lafayette Square and tore down photographs from a memorial honoring Black men and women killed by police.    (WaPo)

All the best people!   

[bankshot1]

Bart-I was just having a little fun with the long history of immigrants descending upon the west to take land and change local ways.

Isn't it more like storied western  tradition?


This land is my land

It is not your land

we stole it fairly

we stole it squarely

we'lll keep out others

who want to share it.

this land was meant for only me. 

sorry Woody

[bankshot1]

bart real question-should ND, SD, WY, Montana or Vermont for that matter have the same 2 senators that Cal or Fl or Tx get, does that strike you as fair? 

[josh]

Vis-a-vis Mr Yang's unoriginal idea of moving en masse to Georgia and the article from last month, I think, about the bears of Grafton, NH...

I have espoused for years the notion of a couple hundred thousand liberals moving to Montana or some such place and changing the state.
[...]
It might also return hope to some of the residents and reverse the declining lifespans of their despairing citizenry.

I think people here would react mostly negatively to coastal liberals moving in with the notion that they're bringing light.   Would most likely polarize people more, and bring on waves of carpetbagger loathing.   Most anger would focus on the assumption that coastal people know best what Montana or Dakota need.

They don't seem to like the idea that there is darkness and despair.

But they also don't seem to like the world and the direction it is headed in, either, hence the darkness and despair leading to so many more premature deaths than there used to be.

Also, the overwhelming majority of folks moving would be doing so for opportunity, jobs, and education - it is only the ("We know better") folks establishing the places who would have that attitude, I suspect.

And the loathing for newcomers is old hat.

[barton]

bart real question-should ND, SD, WY, Montana or Vermont for that matter have the same 2 senators that Cal or Fl or Tx get, does that strike you as fair?

Not really,  but we seem stuck with the bicameral legislature we got from the Brit influence.   Lower house is proportional, upper house isn't.   The original concept was that states have some self-sovereignty and a Senate keeps the big populated states from steamrollering the smaller ones.   No one anticipates the problems these sorts of lofty ideas lead to.   Especially how the Senate would clamp gridlock on popular legislation coming from the "lower" house.   Minority rule. 

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/14/politics/trump-election-cases-status/index.html

"I will gladly give you evidence on Tuesday for a verdict today..."

So far, it sounds  as if the GOP's court cases are doing as well as the reasoning from the GOP adherents does here.

[bankshot1]

bart real question-should ND, SD, WY, Montana or Vermont for that matter have the same 2 senators that Cal or Fl or Tx get, does that strike you as fair?

Not really,  but we seem stuck with the bicameral legislature we got from the Brit influence.   Lower house is proportional, upper house isn't.   The original concept was that states have some self-sovereignty and a Senate keeps the big populated states from steamrollering the smaller ones.   No one anticipates the problems these sorts of lofty ideas lead to.   Especially how the Senate would clamp gridlock on popular legislation coming from the "lower" house.   Minority rule.

So we're stuck with the tyranny of Vermont and Bernie Sanders.

maybe there is a common sense reform to give fair senatorial representation to the 40 million socialists in Cal and the 600,000 socialists in Vt. that the fair-minded people of the Dakotas would agree to.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/14/politics/rudy-giuliani-trump-lawsuits-2020-election/index.html

Hahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

[oilcan]

Bo says,  over at Third Eye Film,  that Elba has locked him out or deactivated his account or something.   He thought others might've been,  too.   No problems here.   

It might be nice,  in a big state,  to have  a Senator who isn't quite as remote.   If you're with some small niche group, a Senator with 600,000 constituents is more likely to pay some attention than one with 40 million.   In theory,  Representatives are the approachable ones.  Senators are,  in theory,  supposed to be upholding the larger principles and big picture stuff.  Boy,  those were the days...

[bankshot1]

Bo says,  over at Third Eye Film,  that Elba has locked him out or deactivated his account or something.   He thought others might've been,  too.   No problems here.   

It might be nice,  in a big state,  to have  a Senator who isn't quite as remote.   If you're with some small niche group, a Senator with 600,000 constituents is more likely to pay some attention than one with 40 million.   In theory,  Representatives are the approachable ones.  Senators are,  in theory,  supposed to be upholding the larger principles and big picture stuff.  Boy,  those were the days...

I got a message early this AM  (about 1 AM) that "this account was suspended" on an otherwise blank screen.

but by 10AM all seemed fine.

I figured kid stuck a fork in the socket again and blew a circuit, or something.

[LarryBnDC]

I, too got the status suspended notice.

 

[bodiddley]

Yeah, there was some sort of issue that had the site here down, but Josh fixed whatever it was quickly.  I was worried the outage might leak across the NBA draft on Nov 17. 

I'd rec arming yourself with Josh's email so if something goes wrong here you have a way of finding out what's up.

[bambu.]

Bo says,  over at Third Eye Film,  that Elba has locked him out or deactivated his account or something.   He thought others might've been,  too.   No problems here.   

It might be nice,  in a big state,  to have  a Senator who isn't quite as remote.   If you're with some small niche group, a Senator with 600,000 constituents is more likely to pay some attention than one with 40 million.   In theory,  Representatives are the approachable ones.  Senators are,  in theory,  supposed to be upholding the larger principles and big picture stuff.  Boy,  those were the days...

My account was suspended yesterday.
"This account has  been suspended" .
I thought "must've been something I said or did"...."oh well, such is life"..."wonder if "suspended" means forever or a term."

[josh]

I emailed those I had ready email access to to let them know it was not them.

We got the problem resolved about 5:15am EST, roughly 6 hours after the problem.

We'd lost a charge, but as soon as that was restored, so was our access.

[josh]

(It was not well timed. I was in the midst of prep for 8 hours of teaching today, between 10am and 9pm.

Fortunately, the work to fix it, beyond a few emails and some research, was not done by me. Half way done with my classes!)