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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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« Reply #60105 on: December 14, 2020, 02:12:06 AM »

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« Reply #60106 on: December 14, 2020, 02:22:33 AM »


Democrats bristle, but Republicans have successfully framed the 2020 election as a struggle against socialism -- an ideology that not one Democratic contender says they advocate.

Sure, since the 2020 election told democrats to stop talking about ‘socialism’.
It’s a loser!  Ask Frau Pelosi.  There is talk of der Aufruhr against the Fuheress.
LOL!

Motherfucker y’all have Brownshirts called Proud Boys running around.

Shove that bullshit.

Frau Pelosi would be Madam Speaker to a pale toad-worm like Red, with Democratic Women repping California, the Bay Area to be precise, presiding over both houses of Congress and Joe Biden, normalizing and advancing all the good popular leftist ideas that actually help people with his characteristic, “come on, man” spelling the welcome revival and expansion of socialist policies that a huge majority of voters preferred to any alternative offered.

Red will remain a repulsive, obnoxious, ignorant shit. He knows the Nazi label sticks to him and all his beloveds so he tries to smear it on his betters, basically everyone.

Madame Speaker (still, again), Madame Vice President and Good Old Joe will still save his worthless ass and drag him kicking and screaming out of the muck he’s currently drowning in.

Ain’t America grand?
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« Reply #60107 on: December 14, 2020, 02:33:01 AM »



It will be gone by April when the weather gets warm, some fathead opined on my television nine months ago. All gone by Easter the slimy liar said.
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« Reply #60110 on: December 14, 2020, 02:54:49 AM »

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« Reply #60111 on: December 14, 2020, 03:05:04 AM »

http://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/13/sanction-attorneys-trump-baseless-election-fraud-lawsuits-444724

Yes.

Every attorney who signed onto a fact-free brief must be sanctioned by their state's Board of Bar Overseers (or equivalent group) and if they are also members of the separate SCOTUS Bar, dropped from that, as well.

This especially includes lawyers who have worked to stir up passions against the election among the public, as that is a violation of the morals component of their oaths.

In particular, this loathsome example of humanity, John C. Eastman, who composed the crock of shit that served as Donald J Trump's brief to SCOTUS to be able to joint the Texas suit needs to be brought up on charges of filing a brief he knew was filled with falsehoods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Eastman

This is the same person who tried to claim that then-only-Senator Harris was not a US citizen, let alone natural-born because while she was born in the US (which makes her a natural-born US citizen), her parents were not permanent residents and so should could not be. While disgusting and wrong-headed, it was an op ed, not a bogus brief.

The Trump brief should see him disbarred.
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« Reply #60112 on: December 14, 2020, 03:13:14 AM »

 :-\
http://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/no-its-not-over-yet

SnaRT.

It's over.

And the harder they fight it, the more they will show even the rank and file of their party that they are full of shit.

While 60% of the GOP currently thinks that the election was stolen, the louder and longer the ninnies keep claiming "let the court process play out" and judge after judge after judge makes it clear that there is no evidence supporting that position... the 60% number will drop.

Sharply.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60113 on: December 14, 2020, 04:40:20 AM »

Evil COVID
Praise God for Operation Warp Speed, fueled by 45.

An ignorant stooge to the bitter end.

Pfizer on record that they weren't engaged in Op Warp Speed.
Moderna was.  Astra-Z wasn't.  All on the same general time line.
Meaning Warpo Speed was generally irrelevant.
Saving lives and selling hundreds of millions of doses were the incentives.

Let's see how the Trump Admin does at distribution.
At least the states had heads up the feds wouldn't be involved and they'd have to manage alone (again.
Just what is the federal gov't doing with regard to vaccine distribution?  Besides paying for it.
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« Reply #60114 on: December 14, 2020, 05:16:23 AM »

---Pro-Trump Rally Chants 'Destroy the GOP,' Boos Georgia 'RINOs' Loeffler and Perdue---

The last gasp of a dying cult. Too funny to see the Donald evicted in cuffs.

https://www.newsweek.com/pro-trump-rally-chants-destroy-gop-boos-georgia-rinos-loeffler-perdue-1554354

What a strange and terrifying out of control roller coaster ride topped off with a pandemic.
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« Reply #60115 on: December 14, 2020, 08:08:51 AM »

A POTUS concerned about America, instead of himself only, would have never let THIS happen.

Another fuckup from the Trump Administration.

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/14/946163194/russia-suspected-in-months-long-cyber-attack-on-federal-agencies
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60116 on: December 14, 2020, 08:16:53 AM »

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Out of the totality of written literature are those the very best books to teach people about the times and places they are set in?

The voice is not eliminated. No longer required and eliminated are not the same thing.

Reading lists get updated and toothless geezers winge about it. This has always been and probably will always be the case.

While I'm not yet toothless, according to this article from the LA Times re the Burbank 5, the books have been quarantined until further notice.

In essence, they have been effectively eliminated.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-11-12/burbank-unified-challenges-books-including-to-kill-a-mockingbird

During a virtual meeting on Sept. 9, middle and high school English teachers in the Burbank Unified School District received a bit of surprising news: Until further notice, they would not be allowed to teach some of the books on their curriculum.

Five novels had been challenged in Burbank: Harper Lee’s “To Kill a Mockingbird,” Mark Twain’s “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,” John Steinbeck’s “Of Mice and Men,” Theodore Taylor’s “The Cay” and Mildred D. Taylor’s Newbery Medal-winning young-adult classic “Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry.”


I've read 3 of the 5, and it was a long time ago, IIRC Huck Finn and of Mice and Men were assigned reads in 7, 8 or 9th grade. To Kill a Mockingbird was in high school.

But whether they are the best teaching materials I supposed depends on what is being taught. We are led to believe that racism and prejudice might have been the lessons here. and the teachers thought they were effective teaching tools in discussing the issue. perhaps greater sensitivity can be employed and giving the kids some context and spoilers as to what they might find offensive.

But banning books that some find offensive is the real offense.

And as the LAT article details many teaching orgs were firmly and loudly against the books being in lock-down.

No doubt they are toothless geezers.

That some in the community are offended by certain words or themes presented in the books is unfortunate. But the remedy to racism should be trying to understand it, discuss it, expose it, or read about it to see how it affects us today. Pretending it doesn't exist and we should not talk about it as it might offend someone or a lot of someones seems counterproductive to the presumed goal.

I'm squarely in the free speech camp and think the recent movement to restrain offensive ideas on college campuses is dangerous and stupid and somrthing the left should not remotely embrace.

the woke generation, like some of us geezers,  should take a nap from time to time, as their brains could probably benefit from some sleep.

Zealots like facil like a Stalinist problem solving techniques---demonize the truly educated, preach to the ignorant, shut down anything resembling real debate. It's a dangerous game, and always has been,  to shelve literature or art in the name of political expediency.

Apparently, it's a game that facil and his ilk support wholeheartedly.
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« Reply #60117 on: December 14, 2020, 08:32:45 AM »

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Out of the totality of written literature are those the very best books to teach people about the times and places they are set in?

The voice is not eliminated. No longer required and eliminated are not the same thing.

Reading lists get updated and toothless geezers winge about it. This has always been and probably will always be the case.

While I'm not yet toothless, according to this article from the LA Times re the Burbank 5, the books have been quarantined until further notice.

In essence, they have been effectively eliminated.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-11-12/burbank-unified-challenges-books-including-to-kill-a-mockingbird

During a virtual meeting on Sept. 9, middle and high school English teachers in the Burbank Unified School District received a bit of surprising news: Until further notice, they would not be allowed to teach some of the books on their curriculum.

Five novels had been challenged in Burbank: Harper Lee’s “To Kill a Mockingbird,” Mark Twain’s “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,” John Steinbeck’s “Of Mice and Men,” Theodore Taylor’s “The Cay” and Mildred D. Taylor’s Newbery Medal-winning young-adult classic “Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry.”


I've read 3 of the 5, and it was a long time ago, IIRC Huck Finn and of Mice and Men were assigned reads in 7, 8 or 9th grade. To Kill a Mockingbird was in high school.

But whether they are the best teaching materials I supposed depends on what is being taught. We are led to believe that racism and prejudice might have been the lessons here. and the teachers thought they were effective teaching tools in discussing the issue. perhaps greater sensitivity can be employed and giving the kids some context and spoilers as to what they might find offensive.

But banning books that some find offensive is the real offense.

And as the LAT article details many teaching orgs were firmly and loudly against the books being in lock-down.

No doubt they are toothless geezers.

That some in the community are offended by certain words or themes presented in the books is unfortunate. But the remedy to racism should be trying to understand it, discuss it, expose it, or read about it to see how it affects us today. Pretending it doesn't exist and we should not talk about it as it might offend someone or a lot of someones seems counterproductive to the presumed goal.

I'm squarely in the free speech camp and think the recent movement to restrain offensive ideas on college campuses is dangerous and stupid and somrthing the left should not remotely embrace.

the woke generation, like some of us geezers,  should take a nap from time to time, as their brains could probably benefit from some sleep.

The problem is these books teach lessons as if racism is a relic of the past of the bulk of these times are written from a white perspective.

Usually being the one of the few blacks in “A track” I can attest to feeling targeted when in discussing these books in the classroom.

But hey... I have everyone of those books on the shelf... except for the Cay. I hated that book.


The problem is these books teach lessons as if racism is a relic of the past of the bulk of these times are written from a white perspective?

And? So?

What they teach is that racism is an integral part of the past, and that there were white people who recognized this wrong and wrote books to bring that wrong to light.

That you wish to silence that white perspective of the past reflects your own current bigotry towards white people.

Teachers don't teach books. They don't choose books to preach a point if view. They use them to teach students how to examine a perspective. Those books reflect varied and relevant points if view when placed within the context of when they were written.


Any of these books can be used to teach reading, writing, and critical thinking about society then, and the challenges facing society now.

Think your Jewish Grandma would work to ban "Number the Stars" because it tells a Holocaust tale as written by a gentile?

Your argument here is weak.




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« Reply #60118 on: December 14, 2020, 09:26:54 AM »

You know that whole "The GOP isn't racist - just a few folks who endorse them are!" routine?

https://www.newsweek.com/kelly-loeffler-slammed-posing-former-kkk-leader-ahead-georgia-runoff-elections-1554401

The GOP is a racist organization.

No doubt...
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« Reply #60119 on: December 14, 2020, 09:34:25 AM »

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Out of the totality of written literature are those the very best books to teach people about the times and places they are set in?

The voice is not eliminated. No longer required and eliminated are not the same thing.

Reading lists get updated and toothless geezers winge about it. This has always been and probably will always be the case.

While I'm not yet toothless, according to this article from the LA Times re the Burbank 5, the books have been quarantined until further notice.

In essence, they have been effectively eliminated.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-11-12/burbank-unified-challenges-books-including-to-kill-a-mockingbird

During a virtual meeting on Sept. 9, middle and high school English teachers in the Burbank Unified School District received a bit of surprising news: Until further notice, they would not be allowed to teach some of the books on their curriculum.

Five novels had been challenged in Burbank: Harper Lee’s “To Kill a Mockingbird,” Mark Twain’s “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,” John Steinbeck’s “Of Mice and Men,” Theodore Taylor’s “The Cay” and Mildred D. Taylor’s Newbery Medal-winning young-adult classic “Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry.”


I've read 3 of the 5, and it was a long time ago, IIRC Huck Finn and of Mice and Men were assigned reads in 7, 8 or 9th grade. To Kill a Mockingbird was in high school.

But whether they are the best teaching materials I supposed depends on what is being taught. We are led to believe that racism and prejudice might have been the lessons here. and the teachers thought they were effective teaching tools in discussing the issue. perhaps greater sensitivity can be employed and giving the kids some context and spoilers as to what they might find offensive.

But banning books that some find offensive is the real offense.

And as the LAT article details many teaching orgs were firmly and loudly against the books being in lock-down.

No doubt they are toothless geezers.

That some in the community are offended by certain words or themes presented in the books is unfortunate. But the remedy to racism should be trying to understand it, discuss it, expose it, or read about it to see how it affects us today. Pretending it doesn't exist and we should not talk about it as it might offend someone or a lot of someones seems counterproductive to the presumed goal.

I'm squarely in the free speech camp and think the recent movement to restrain offensive ideas on college campuses is dangerous and stupid and somrthing the left should not remotely embrace.

the woke generation, like some of us geezers,  should take a nap from time to time, as their brains could probably benefit from some sleep.

The problem is these books teach lessons as if racism is a relic of the past of the bulk of these times are written from a white perspective.

Usually being the one of the few blacks in “A track” I can attest to feeling targeted when in discussing these books in the classroom.

But hey... I have everyone of those books on the shelf... except for the Cay. I hated that book.


The problem is these books teach lessons as if racism is a relic of the past of the bulk of these times are written from a white perspective?

And? So?

What they teach is that racism is an integral part of the past, and that there were white people who recognized this wrong and wrote books to bring that wrong to light.

That you wish to silence that white perspective of the past reflects your own current bigotry towards white people.

Teachers don't teach books. They don't choose books to preach a point if view. They use them to teach students how to examine a perspective. Those books reflect varied and relevant points if view when placed within the context of when they were written.


Any of these books can be used to teach reading, writing, and critical thinking about society then, and the challenges facing society now.

Think your Jewish Grandma would work to ban "Number the Stars" because it tells a Holocaust tale as written by a gentile?

Your argument here is weak.

No. Im not a big fan of Magical Negro classics being extolled just because they make white people feel better about themselves.

My maternal grandfather was Jewish.

Fuck you very much.
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