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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61635 on: January 04, 2021, 02:30:12 AM »
If we’re going to get serious, which we clearly need to do, certain bullshit must be made to cease immediately, especially the bullshit republicans like to focus their fundraising on.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61636 on: January 04, 2021, 04:40:57 AM »
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« Reply #61637 on: January 04, 2021, 04:56:47 AM »
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« Reply #61638 on: January 04, 2021, 05:15:25 AM »
If I am running ads against David Perdue, these go front and center in them:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/perdue-supports-gop-senators-electoral-college-objection

Perdue is disgusted that a member of the GOP would tape a conversation with a sitting president and leak it.

He has no problem with anything Trump said or implied. And the radical socialist government by Dems must be stopped.
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« Reply #61639 on: January 04, 2021, 05:24:25 AM »
Quote from: josh on January 03, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1345810744412139521

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Chuck Schumer
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Hey
@SenTedCruz
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You want to investigate election fraud? Start with this:
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The Washington Post
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Exclusive | "I just want to find 11,780 votes": In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor https://wapo.st/387hYLo

Chuck is on to something and it’s barely the tip of the iceberg,

http://www.salon.com/2021/01/04/trump-accused-of-criminal-extortion-after-asking-georgia-official-to-find-votes_partner/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61640 on: January 04, 2021, 05:27:02 AM »
Kkkelly and Chicken Perdue are more interested in winning trump pardons than in retaining their seats. Georgia needs better representatives in the Senate.
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« Reply #61641 on: January 04, 2021, 05:29:04 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/congress-electoral-college-vote-count-objections

Mostly reasonable piece, but apparently Sen. Murkowski is now representing Ark, not AK.
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« Reply #61642 on: January 04, 2021, 05:34:23 AM »
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Though GOP lawmakers in the Senate and the House have said they will contest the election’s results, they have to yet to provide proof supporting voter fraud -- instead pointing to a poll that showed 67 percent of Republicans believe the election was "rigged."

~Fox News
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61643 on: January 04, 2021, 06:08:26 AM »
"What a schmuck I was.
But that’s the way it is."

- President Donald Trump
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« Reply #61644 on: January 04, 2021, 07:35:05 AM »
While it's unseemly and arguably unethical for the President to bully a state official, I didn't see anything illegal there.  Trump professes to believe that hundred of thousands of illegal votes were cast in GA -- he provides a list of supposed malfeasance -- and notes that he's mostly concerned with erasing Biden's 11,789 vote lead.  When he talks about finding 11,790 votes he no doubt means he wants to find more than 11,790 illegal votes, to correct what he claims is the wrong result.

Again, more reasonable for the lawyers to deal with this, and limit political pressure, but I don't see criminality.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61645 on: January 04, 2021, 09:41:50 AM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on January 03, 2021, 10:40:14 PM
It is beyond my comprehension.
Not only did Pelosi  eliminate gendered terms, such as “father, mother, son, and daughter” in...

FIFY
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61646 on: January 04, 2021, 09:45:01 AM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on January 03, 2021, 08:28:39 PM
Quote from: barton on January 03, 2021, 06:23:09 PM
Title 52 U.S. Section 20511.

 “A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office … knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by … the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held” is subject to imprisonment of up to five years.

Next AG should prosecute Trump immediately.   He has clearly broken federal law,  and the call is on tape and multiply witnessed.   Anyone have a reason why the rule of law should  not be upheld?   Shouldn't this be prosecuted to deter others,  in the future,  from trying this again?   

This was an attempted coup,  an act of treason against the United States.
ROFL!

And here is the Georgia State law covering the same offenses:

2019 Georgia Code
Title 21- Elections
Chapter 2 - Elections and primaries generally
Article 15 - Miscellaneous Offences
§21-2-604. Criminal solicitation to commit election fraud; penalties

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2016/title-21/chapter-2/article-15/section-21-2-604



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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61647 on: January 04, 2021, 10:00:02 AM »
Quote from: bambu. on January 03, 2021, 09:39:26 PM
Quote from: UNO on January 03, 2021, 07:46:13 PM
Election fraud uncovered! Here is clear and convincing evidence that election fraud has been committed in this election:

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-lessthanperfect-call-to-georgia-officials-could-also-be-a-crime-221455096.html

The whole thing was/is a mess.
Nothing to do with me in "no ID...vote early, vote often" land...but hopefully the US election system will be perfected by next time.

Fuck off, roo-eater. It's worked fine for over two centuries. You still bow to the fucking Queen. WTF do you know about democracy?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #61648 on: January 04, 2021, 10:02:39 AM »
Quote from: bodiddley on January 04, 2021, 07:35:05 AM
While it's unseemly and arguably unethical for the President to bully a state official, I didn't see anything illegal there.  Trump professes to believe that hundred of thousands of illegal votes were cast in GA -- he provides a list of supposed malfeasance -- and notes that he's mostly concerned with erasing Biden's 11,789 vote lead.  When he talks about finding 11,790 votes he no doubt means he wants to find more than 11,790 illegal votes, to correct what he claims is the wrong result.

Again, more reasonable for the lawyers to deal with this, and limit political pressure, but I don't see criminality.

If you listen to the tape,  isn't there a point where Trump makes a fairly obvious threat of Raffensperger and Germany being criminally prosecuted?   I'm not a lawyer,  and I'm asking a real question -- wouldn't that be a form of extortion?   
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« Reply #61649 on: January 04, 2021, 10:06:11 AM »
Here's the relevanr section from the GA statute...

A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct. 
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