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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63225 on: January 15, 2021, 08:44:20 PM »

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/15/2009419/-This-one-action-makes-a-mockery-of-the-GOP-s-anti-regulation-rhetoric

What’s the point of funding a criminal and unpopular political party if it can’t even protect the gas and gun industries from losing their access to banking capital?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63227 on: January 15, 2021, 09:17:13 PM »


White majority countries and their cultures are the best in the world.


Now who is elitist?!
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« Reply #63228 on: January 15, 2021, 10:10:43 PM »

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/john-eastman-federalist-society-capitol-insurrection.html

It would be a shame if any lifetime appointees kept Parler accounts while they were feeling all above the law.
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« Reply #63229 on: January 15, 2021, 10:25:54 PM »

I posted a pic purporting to be from Jan 5, 2021 of a group led by Rep. Boebert (R-CO) the other day, but it turned out to have been from 2019.

I have some updates for you:

Colorado has some legislators who are none to happy with Rep. Boebert.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/politics/national-politics/letter-to-house-leaders-from-68-colorado-elected-boebert/73-065bcdd4-8512-4006-98cb-ad516fd61c0a

Why?

House Democrats demand a probe into tours of the Capitol Building that were given the day before the attempted coup/assassinations.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-demand-probe-nature-capitol-tours-day-riot/story?id=75231523

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The Democrats who signed the letter collectively contend that the tours being conducted on Jan. 5 "were a noticeable and concerning departure" from procedures put in place as of March 2020 that limit the number of visitors to the Capitol. These tours were so concerning to Democrats that they were reported to the sergeant-at-arms on Jan. 5, they wrote.

Why would they be suspicious? Because COVID-19 caused all tours to be cancelled since July 18th and that had not changed by Jan 5th. No tours at all. So, if there were GOP Reps leading tours on the 5th, then there was a problem.

And more than 30 Representatives saw people in the hallways who would have had no business there:
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"In the lead up to Jan. 6, what I witnessed was members of the public, people who had no business being in the Capitol during the shutdowns, milling about in the office buildings," Spanberger said. "The way that these individuals would have entered the Capitol in the first place would have been with a member of Congress making that possible.”

Meanwhile, a GOP House leader wants more of an investigation than Pelosi has sought:
https://news.yahoo.com/republican-lawmaker-to-ask-justice-department-to-investigate-trumps-response-to-attack-on-us-capitol-002831089.html

The GOP members, some of whom are claimed to have had their activities caught on CCTV, have denied all wrong-doing or tour-leading.

OTOH, 30+ eye witnesses seems like there might be something to it.
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« Reply #63230 on: January 15, 2021, 10:26:46 PM »

OTOH:

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63231 on: January 15, 2021, 11:17:42 PM »

On the way out the door, Pompeo has designated the Houthis, who control northern Yemen, a terrorist organization.  Which means that any aid groups probably have to stop their work as they can be held liable, criminally and civilly, for aiding terrorists if they work with the Yemen gov't to distribute aid to keep war refugees and the impoverished population from starving and try to provide medical help.

Meanwhile the US keeps supporting the Saudi death machine with logistics and reconnaissance and in-air refueling.  The more bombs the Saudis drop on impoverished Yemenis, the more bombs the Saudis will need to buy from the US.  With pressure, the US likely could force an end to the Saudi war on Yemen.  Enforce a peace process.  7 years of bombing the shit out of a poor country hasn't worked.  Congress tried to stop US involvement in devastating Yemen and killing Yemenis, but Trump vetoed the resolution.

Biden should end the terrorist designation immediately, so that humanitarian groups can do their work.  Otherwise hundreds of thousands will die.  Life is that precarious for millions of displaced, malnourished and food insecure Yemenis. Roughly half the 30M Yemenis are at risk.

Biden needs to:
1) Remove the hideous terrorist designation from the Yemen gov't.
2) Stop supporting Saudi Arabia in its war on Yemen
3) Pressure the Saudis to stop warring against Yemen.  The US has a lot of leverage over the Saudis, and they probably want to get on the good side of the Biden Admin, and Saudi Arabia might be looking for a way out of this endless war which is draining money and not terribly popular in SA.

I can provide some links, but my guess is nobody is overly interested in the Yemen War and Yemenis.
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« Reply #63232 on: January 15, 2021, 11:26:59 PM »

On the way out the door, Pompeo has designated the Houthis, who control northern Yemen, a terrorist organization.  Which means that any aid groups probably have to stop their work as they can be held liable, criminally and civilly, for aiding terrorists if they work with the Yemen gov't to distribute aid to keep war refugees and the impoverished population from starving and try to provide medical help.

Meanwhile the US keeps supporting the Saudi death machine with logistics and reconnaissance and in-air refueling.  The more bombs the Saudis drop on impoverished Yemenis, the more bombs the Saudis will need to buy from the US.  With pressure, the US likely could force an end to the Saudi war on Yemen.  Enforce a peace process.  7 years of bombing the shit out of a poor country hasn't worked.  Congress tried to stop US involvement in devastating Yemen and killing Yemenis, but Trump vetoed the resolution.

Biden should end the terrorist designation immediately, so that humanitarian groups can do their work.  Otherwise hundreds of thousands will die.  Life is that precarious for millions of displaced, malnourished and food insecure Yemenis. Roughly half the 30M Yemenis are at risk.

Biden needs to:
1) Remove the hideous terrorist designation from the Yemen gov't.
2) Stop supporting Saudi Arabia in its war on Yemen
3) Pressure the Saudis to stop warring against Yemen.  The US has a lot of leverage over the Saudis, and they probably want to get on the good side of the Biden Admin, and Saudi Arabia might be looking for a way out of this endless war which is draining money and not terribly popular in SA.

I can provide some links, but my guess is nobody is overly interested in the Yemen War and Yemenis.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63233 on: January 15, 2021, 11:35:31 PM »

On the way out the door, Pompeo has designated the Houthis, who control northern Yemen, a terrorist organization.  Which means that any aid groups probably have to stop their work as they can be held liable, criminally and civilly, for aiding terrorists if they work with the Yemen gov't to distribute aid to keep war refugees and the impoverished population from starving and try to provide medical help.

Meanwhile the US keeps supporting the Saudi death machine with logistics and reconnaissance and in-air refueling.  The more bombs the Saudis drop on impoverished Yemenis, the more bombs the Saudis will need to buy from the US.  With pressure, the US likely could force an end to the Saudi war on Yemen.  Enforce a peace process.  7 years of bombing the shit out of a poor country hasn't worked.  Congress tried to stop US involvement in devastating Yemen and killing Yemenis, but Trump vetoed the resolution.

Biden should end the terrorist designation immediately, so that humanitarian groups can do their work.  Otherwise hundreds of thousands will die.  Life is that precarious for millions of displaced, malnourished and food insecure Yemenis. Roughly half the 30M Yemenis are at risk.

Biden needs to:
1) Remove the hideous terrorist designation from the Yemen gov't.
2) Stop supporting Saudi Arabia in its war on Yemen
3) Pressure the Saudis to stop warring against Yemen.  The US has a lot of leverage over the Saudis, and they probably want to get on the good side of the Biden Admin, and Saudi Arabia might be looking for a way out of this endless war which is draining money and not terribly popular in SA.

I can provide some links, but my guess is nobody is overly interested in the Yemen War and Yemenis.



New Sheriff in town.

No more sword banging, orb fondling are looking the other way when journalists are murdered.

The oil economy is in its death throes so DA doesn’t have the same juice. No more Trump and Jared to prop them up.

Pompeo is a fucking true believer praying for the Rapture.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #63234 on: January 15, 2021, 11:42:57 PM »

I am very, very focused on getting our restaurants reopened. If we look at the various criteria that the state has set, we are meeting most if not all of those. So that’s a conversation that I will have with the governor," she said at a Thursday press conference. "But I want to get our restaurants and our bars reopened as quickly as possible."

Chicago Mayor Lori ( how’s my hair looking?) Lightfoot.

Really?
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« Reply #63235 on: January 15, 2021, 11:49:51 PM »

Your hair looks terrible Red, in part because it’s more on your ass than your head these days.

Do we still have time for infrastructure week, or did the cop killing job killing republicans lie about that too?
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« Reply #63236 on: January 15, 2021, 11:58:22 PM »

This is quite a good article on the Yemen War, humanitarian aid, and the evil US terrorist designation.  A significant policy such as this which will cost tens of thousands of lives shouldn't be tossed out the last few days of a lame duck presidency.  A shitty and awful thing to do.  A US death cult is right.

'Diplomatic vandalism': aid groups' fury as US puts Houthis on terror list

70% of Yemenis live under Houthi control.  Roughly half the 30M population is food insecure.  Due to a war the US supports and can stop.

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“Yemen’s faltering economy will be dealt a further devastating blow,” he said. “Getting food and medicine into Yemen – a country 80% dependent on imports – will become even more difficult.”

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David Miliband, the chief executive of the International Rescue Committee, called it “pure diplomatic vandalism”.

“The last thing the Yemeni people need is further interruption of aid and economic flows,” said the former British foreign secretary. “The opposite is needed – effective pressure on all parties to the conflict to cease using civilians as hostages in their war games.”

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The conflict has led to what the UN says is the world’s worst humanitarian crisis, killing more than 112,000 people and leaving most of the 30 million-strong population dependent on aid to survive.

Malnutrition and outbreaks of disease such as cholera are rife.

Pompeo thought it a good idea and in the US interest to amplify and expand the world's worst humanitarian crisis. 
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« Reply #63237 on: January 16, 2021, 12:08:09 AM »

Pretty depressing.
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« Reply #63238 on: January 16, 2021, 12:19:39 AM »

I imagine a Biden underling's been in charge of listing all the policies and processes that will need reversing as soon as he gets in office.
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« Reply #63239 on: January 16, 2021, 12:33:50 AM »

Basically, the Yemen War is much like the Syrian Civil War, except nobody is paying attention to it, the Yemenis are much poorer and unable to flee, and the US is actively involved in the war effort.


Basically just another parting favor for the Saudis and Israel.

Biden should make it clear, today, that no aid or financial groups will face any threat of US prosecution.  And the rogue policy will be canceled immediately at the start of the Biden Admin.
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