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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bambu.]

Iran to execute 2nd wrestler, sparking outrage from US State Department

Primitive crazies are still bringing out the pick-up trucks with the nooses for public hangings in parking lots. Always a big crowd pleaser.

 Just shut the fuck up...


The number of federal death sentences carried out under Trump since 2020 is more than in the previous 56 years combined, reducing the number of prisoners on federal death row by nearly a quarter. It’s likely none of the around 50 remaining men will be executed anytime soon, if ever, with Biden signaling he’ll end federal executions.

I'm liking Joe for that.

[LarryBnDC]

Achtung Bitches!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blxT61F-Ris

[josh]

https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/2021-01/2021InaugurationPublic%20AccessMap.pdf

I understand they have suspended deliveries in that zone and removed post office drop boxes.

[facilitatorn]

A civilized society ostracizes people like Kid for their repugnant views on almost everything.

Let’s get more civilized!

Yes, let's stop marching and stay home.

Good advice for crackers everywhere. Spread the word to your Ilk.

We’ll make good use of our streets in your absence. It’s part of the pressing onward March of civilization.

[facilitatorn]

Achtung Bitches!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blxT61F-Ris

Thank you Larry. That was sickening and sobering at the same time.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Not exactly.  Medicine has a moral basis.   But making personal judgments about patients sinfulness is not part of that,  as you must surely be aware.   Doctors don't backburner diabetic patients because they always ate too many cookies when they could have had an apple.  They do triage on the basis of what patients,  in this moment, are most in need,  a practical and humane standard that is centuries old and not controversial.   My daughter kayaks,  and has dad's robust immune system,  so her risk is much lower than a COPD sufferer.   If all other factors were discounted,  the COPD person would go first.  ( The question of moving her up the line was a practical one of the impact on public health and older relatives of pupils.  One could ask the same question regarding supermarket  cashiers,  et al)

Public health measures, like vaccines,  tend to rely on utilitarian ethics rather than individual virtue,  isn't that the case?   IOW,  what will help the most people as soon as possible and save the most lives?   That's more judgment-neutral (judgment used here in the personal sense of judging a particular person).

All i know is that the excessively overweight, smoking, did-it-too-him/herself self-indulgent couch potato goes ahead instead of the person who acts responsibly and acts for others.

If you're okay with that, then that tells us something.

You responded to none of his point.   My reading is he's saying that doctors can't be judgmental about lifestyle, though he may personally disapprove.   If we did triage based on who's least self-indulgent,  we'd empty most of the wards and replace them with sports injuries and mountaineering accidents.

When someone repeatedly misconstrues my posts,  I tend to move on.   That he posted 8 times but ignored your spot-on reply says that he probably will,  too.

No need to respond. My point was clear. He is free to misread it and rant incoherently.

[Hamilton Samuels]

“Look, I didn’t agree with the [Capitol] fight that happened last week, and I voted against overturning the election, but at the same time, the impeachment is a wrongheaded, partisan notion, [and] if Republicans go along with it, it’ll destroy the party,” (Senator Rand) Paul said during the interview.

“A third of the Republicans will leave the party,” Paul continued. “This isn’t about, anymore, the Electoral College, this is about the future of the party, and whether you’re going to ostracize and excommunicate President Trump from the party. Well, guess what? Millions of his fans will leave as well.”

More succinctly, "Because while I condemn insurrectionists, they're important to the party!"

Always putting party before country. That's WHO this asshole is.

I think you give him too much credit.

It's putting self above everything else, and in this case he sees himself getting further by having the party intact - but if he saw it otherwise, he would turn on them in a heartbeat.

You're both wrong

Carry on.

Well kid's rejection of an opinion is actually an endorsement. So, thanks, kid.

[kidcarter8]

Fear not...Kid-ilk and bambu-ilk will be things of the past, with the media/social media and the Left basically seemingly forming a coalition to rid the world of all things except praise and worship of the Left.


heh

[Oilcandide]

No need to respond. My point was clear. He is free to misread it and rant incoherently.

Didn't misread.   You did.   He's not saying a humanitarian person doesn't deserve respect.   He's saying doctors don't get to decide their treatment plans on who's been naughty and nice.   They don't get to make fat smoker dude wait gasping for oxygen because they've judged his whole life and decided he's not Mother Theresa.   

I worked in a hospital.   Medical ethics is seeing all human lives as having value, and making decisions on urgency of need, and least harm.   

[kidcarter8]

No need to respond. My point was clear. He is free to misread it and rant incoherently.


Read:  I refuse to back him up by saying exactly what my feeling is on Rand Paul's statement.

[kidcarter8]

Achtung Bitches!


I will say it once

This is inciteful language.

Josh - do with it as you please.

[barton]

No need to respond. My point was clear. He is free to misread it and rant incoherently.


Read:  I refuse to back him up by saying exactly what my feeling is on Rand Paul's statement.

FYI -- the quote is from an earlier chat on medical ethics and how vaccines are given,  in what order.   Has nothing to do with the current Paul chat.   Hope thst helps.

[barton]

Achtung Bitches!


I will say it once

This is inciteful language.

Josh - do with it as you please.

The video accompanying the Achtung provided evidence that the simile to Nazis was correct.   Achtung,  as Larry used it,  is a metaphor for "here's something that parallels what happened in Nazi Germany..." 

[josh]

Medical ethics is seeing all human lives as having value, and making decisions on urgency of need, and least harm.

Medical ethics is supposed to be seeing all humans as having value, etc.

If only it were.

[josh]

No need to respond. My point was clear. He is free to misread it and rant incoherently.


Read:  I refuse to back him up by saying exactly what my feeling is on Rand Paul's statement.

Read: Kid refuses to admit what Paul said.