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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[LarryBnDC]

you should give it a shot as a sensible balance to whatever alt-news/alt-propaganda you've relied upon to build your stunning lifetime collection of ignorance.

CNN.  NY Daily News\Post, USA Today and publications from varied (read:  from both sides) non pay Twitter sources.

I think I am good, thanks.

Do you only read the papers you can steal off a news stand?

[LarryBnDC]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

[LarryBnDC]

Well... it’s pretty much what I expected. The guy is stupid but he slings so much shit in so little time with the confidence of an idiot that people actually think he makes sense. This guy is a more loquacious Chance the Gardner who inherited the “old man’s” estate...  but then sold it right before the first big wave of gentrification.

The US President is one dumb mahfuckah...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/04/transcript-phone-call-between-president-trump-journalist-bob-woodward/

[REDSTATEWARD]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

What about his viewpoint? He is, after all, the pastor of a mega-church in Atlanta.

[LarryBnDC]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

What about his viewpoint? He is, after all, the pastor of a mega-church in Atlanta.

So?

[josh]

heh

Discussion?

No.  Very seldom anything specific laid out

That you chose to ignore it or deny it doesn't mean it didn't occur.

The conversation about refusing legal asylum seekers the right to apply for asylum is a violation of our laws and our treaties, directed by the President's administration.

The kidnapping of children from those legal asylum seekers violated our laws and the Constitution.

The refusal to track them and initially to aid in recovering them was a violation of the Constitution, probably more than one. (Habeus Corpus, for one.)

The seizure of citizen's passports and denial of new ones without due process was a violation of the Constitution.

Locking up citizens because the officials "suspected" they might not be citizens is a violation of the Constitution.

That's not discussion

Its accusation.

And you have taken liberties here, sir.

Kidnapping?  Really?

The EXTREMITY of position is your (YES, YG - I mean it plural) greatest deficiency.

Kiid -

Somebody locks up a person illegally and takes their kid and sends them a thousand miles away, keeps no record of where they sent the kid and refuses to give the kid back, while admitting they took the child as hostage to extort money out of a third party.

Sounds like kidnapping to me. What part of what I describe do you think is extreme? Do you approve of the actions and the stated goal?

Those were the topics, not the discussions. The point gets raised - you choose to participate or not. More than one of us discussed them, even if you did not.

And no, those are not accusations. All of those are facts, with the arguable exception of the word "kidnapping." For your benefit, I will say, instead, "imprisonment and transportation hundreds of miles away of children, without record-keeping or willingness to return the children."

Happier?

[josh]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

What about his viewpoint? He is, after all, the pastor of a mega-church in Atlanta.

Far as this non-Christian can tell, anybody who is the pastor of a mega-church has strayed far from the fold.

[REDSTATEWARD]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

What about his viewpoint? He is, after all, the pastor of a mega-church in Atlanta.

Far as this non-Christian can tell, anybody who is the pastor of a mega-church has strayed far from the fold.

In what way?

[josh]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

What about his viewpoint? He is, after all, the pastor of a mega-church in Atlanta.

Far as this non-Christian can tell, anybody who is the pastor of a mega-church has strayed far from the fold.

In what way?

Their wealth and conspicuous consumption.

Their egos, too.

Jasper Williams, Jr.’s magnetic personality, blended with an explosive delivery style, has drawn audiences worldwide for more than three decades to hear his spirit-filled sermons. He has emerged as one of the most influential spiritual leaders of this generation.

It would be quite the praise, but for the fact that it is on his own website.

[REDSTATEWARD]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

What about his viewpoint? He is, after all, the pastor of a mega-church in Atlanta.

Far as this non-Christian can tell, anybody who is the pastor of a mega-church has strayed far from the fold.

In what way?

Their wealth and conspicuous consumption.

Their egos, too.

Jasper Williams, Jr.’s magnetic personality, blended with an explosive delivery style, has drawn audiences worldwide for more than three decades to hear his spirit-filled sermons. He has emerged as one of the most influential spiritual leaders of this generation.

It would be quite the praise, but for the fact that it is on his own website.

So, his words in the eulogy. What do you make of them.?

[facilitatorn]

The crummy pastor’s words will soon be forgotten. The blue wave will be listening to the music of Aretha Franklin as it surges to the polls and expels the traitor party from its hold on power.

The republicans didn’t prepare very well for these confirmation hearings. It’s nice to know that at least as a result of today, Kavanaugh won’t have a lifetime seat on the court if he does get confirmed after these sham hearings. Lying to Congress is a felony. Disbarred convicted felons can’t serve as judges on courts, so we’d only have a couple of years of him at most.

[barton]

So,  no reply from Kid,  who asked for more discussion,  when I offered a basis for discussion of Trump and the First Amendment.  Let the record show a chance for calm debate was offered.   

Regarding the Bob exposè...nothing most of us didn't already know.   You can watch video of DT from over a decade ago and clearly see the contrast,  the decline in mental competence, emotional stability,  and vocabulary.  I no longer hate Trump but see him as a sad and pitiful person, propped up by an extremist political base who insist on a figurehead they can flaunt as an iconoclastic Beltway "outsider. "   Trump needs therapeutic treatment and kind advice from loved ones to resign and find some peace.   Keeping a mentally ill man propped up like this is a cruelty of epic proportion.  I hold his family and inner circle responsible for this abuse.   

[LarryBnDC]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

What about his viewpoint? He is, after all, the pastor of a mega-church in Atlanta.

Far as this non-Christian can tell, anybody who is the pastor of a mega-church has strayed far from the fold.

In what way?

Their wealth and conspicuous consumption.

Their egos, too.

Jasper Williams, Jr.’s magnetic personality, blended with an explosive delivery style, has drawn audiences worldwide for more than three decades to hear his spirit-filled sermons. He has emerged as one of the most influential spiritual leaders of this generation.

It would be quite the praise, but for the fact that it is on his own website.

So, his words in the eulogy. What do you make of them.?

It wasn’t an eulogy it was an off topic sermon that droned on and on to church full of women (most of the folks on the dais were men, those in the pews, women) about how they can’t raise black men. Motherfucker essentially resurrected Bill Cosby’s pound cake speech.

He might have gotten away with a short and sweet, but he decided the show was all about him.

He was an asshole.

[LarryBnDC]

So,  no reply from Kid,  who asked for more discussion,  when I offered a basis for discussion of Trump and the First Amendment.  Let the record show a chance for calm debate was offered.   

Regarding the Bob exposè...nothing most of us didn't already know.   You can watch video of DT from over a decade ago and clearly see the contrast,  the decline in mental competence, emotional stability,  and vocabulary.  I no longer hate Trump but see him as a sad and pitiful person, propped up by an extremist political base who insist on a figurehead they can flaunt as an iconoclastic Beltway "outsider. "   Trump needs therapeutic treatment and kind advice from loved ones to resign and find some peace.   Keeping a mentally ill man propped up like this is a cruelty of epic proportion.  I hold his family and inner circle responsible for this abuse.

Told y’all from day one the boy is stupid but if you ask me he shows signs of tertiary syphilis. I mean the guy has a habit of riding hos bareback.

[REDSTATEWARD]

No news except to the people who deny racism remains as a major problem in the United States.

If it is how come our Global Moderator never links to blacks who think differenty?



Pastor stands firm


JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
Associated Press
 
A fiery, old-school pastor who is under fire for saying black America is losing "its soul" at Aretha Franklin's funeral stands firm by his words with the hopes that those critics can understand his perspective.

Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday he felt his stirring sermon was appropriate at Franklin's funeral Friday in Detroit. He felt his timing was right, especially after other speakers spoke on the civil rights movement and President Donald Trump."I was trying to show that the movement now is moving and should move in a different direction," he said. "... what we need to do is create respect among ourselves. Aretha is the person with that song "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that is laid out for us and what we need to be as a race within ourselves. We need to show each other that. We need to show each other respect. That was the reason why I did it."

Williams, who is the pastor of Salem Baptist Church in Atlanta, said his words about black women being incapable of raising sons alone and his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement were taken out of context.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pastor-aretha-franklin-funeral-criticism-20180902-story,amp.html

The family bitched about his sermon which he gave rather than eulogy.

He was received at the funeral like the proverbial turd in the punch bowl.

Fuck that guy.

What about his viewpoint? He is, after all, the pastor of a mega-church in Atlanta.

Far as this non-Christian can tell, anybody who is the pastor of a mega-church has strayed far from the fold.

In what way?

Their wealth and conspicuous consumption.

Their egos, too.

Jasper Williams, Jr.’s magnetic personality, blended with an explosive delivery style, has drawn audiences worldwide for more than three decades to hear his spirit-filled sermons. He has emerged as one of the most influential spiritual leaders of this generation.

It would be quite the praise, but for the fact that it is on his own website.

So, his words in the eulogy. What do you make of them.?

It wasn’t an eulogy it was an off topic sermon that droned on and on to church full of women (most of the folks on the dais were men, those in the pews, women) about how they can’t raise black men. Motherfucker essentially resurrected Bill Cosby’s pound cake speech.

He might have gotten away with a short and sweet, but he decided the show was all about him.

He was an asshole.

Just what was he trying to get away with?