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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/4/17799842/brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court-confirmation-hearing-polls

[josh]

Angus King and Bernie Sanders need to show Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski how the don’t need to shackle themselves to a moribund political party and can have not only viable, but enjoyable Senate careers representing their states as independents. Neither of them want Kavanaugh on the Court and now would be a good time to set themselves on a path to outlast the republican party which is clearly imploding.

The meetings about leakers leaking are still being leaked minutes after they let out.

When your policies attract only evil fucks you are left in rooms full of only evil fucks, which is the current plight of the GOP. That the GOP has any power at all is the current blight on the United States.

ahhhh......if it were so easy....

Easy it is.

Simple it might not be.

[josh]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-to-circumvent-court-limits-on-detention-of-child-migrants/2018/09/06/181d376c-b1bd-11e8-a810-4d6b627c3d5d_story.html

For those of you challenged by the paywall, even on September 6th...

Trump is still trying to keep children past the legal limits, while they also still have hundreds of kids seperated from their parents, post court order.

Criminal, amoral conduct.

There's a simple solution...reunite as many as possible...then deport them all back over the Mexican border, from whence they came...problem solved.

Vanna, sell this fool a clue.

They have no idea where the parents are, Bambu. They don't want to know.

They already deported the parents.

Your heartlessness and your ignorance remain in place, well demonstrated.

You still have zero clue what actually occurs when an adult crosses the border with a child and is not "legal".

You say that as if it hasn't been documented.

It has. Copiously.

But you also insist on forgetting SOME OF THESE KIDS WERE NOT ILLEGAL NOR WERE THEIR PARENTS!

And the kids whose parents were deported WITHOUT HEARINGS and who have been detained ILLEGALLY are still being treated immorally and unethically and all your "you have no idea" bullshit doesn't change it.

[josh]

Just continue to say no to illegal aliens. America no longer needs cheap labor from primitive violent cultures. American streets are not paved with gold. This is a slap in the face to poor whites and Afro-Americans who have to step to the back of the bus again.

Da fuck are you talking about?

Whose jobs do you think the newcomers will compete for? Come to Amerika.

You aren't paying attention to this job market, are you?

AUgust 2017, NPR
U.S. Employers Struggle To Match Workers With Open Jobs : NPR

December, Washington Post
2018's challenge: Too many jobs, not enough workers

January, CNN
American businesses can't find workers - CNN Money

May, USA Today
Crabmeat producers closing due to lack of workers

June, Fox local
Booming economy means employers can't find enough workers | WRGT

June, Wall Street Journal
Big Businesses Can't Find Enough Workers, Either - WSJ

July, Biz Journals
Google can't find enough workers, so it's working with Collin County

July, CNBC
The U.S. labor shortage is reaching a critical point

July, Austin Monitor
Talking talent, and why Austin companies can't find enough workers

July, Market Watch
Screaming labor shortage forcing firms to get creative to fill record job

Not working for m13 gangs, or Jihadi warriors who refuse to assimilate. Lower unemployment comes with tighter border security as well as less violent crime. Anchor babies seems like a ploy borrowed from Al Qaeda who used women and children as a shield. Its your fault America if you do not let everyone in those poor children will be separated from their parents, huh!

So, let's see...

You asked "whose jobs do you think the newcomers will compete for?"

I answered and you came back with the totally on topic response of MS-13 and Jihadi warriors.

Change the topic much, Luee? Lost your argument big time, so you want to try a different one.

No, the low unemployment rate is not a product of the change in illegal immigrants. That's another red herring.

Anchor babies being compared to human shields? Boy, are you lost!

By the way, got any stats on the pejoratively labeled "anchor" babies? I won't hold my breath.

The idea is not just to win arguments, Luee, but to have truth in what you are saying.

[josh]

The GOP is full of shit.

The democrats only have themselves to blame.

Red, look up the phrase "locus of control."

That's when you cannot accept responsibility for your own conduct, but must blame others.

"It's not our fault we act this way - you made us behave unethically!"

[josh]

"Controlling for several objective credentials, Lindgren found that, for nominees without prior judicial experience, Clinton nominees were nearly ten times more likely than Bush nominees to be rated as well qualified"

That's not evidence of bias, fool.

[REDSTATEWARD]

"Controlling for several objective credentials, Lindgren found that, for nominees without prior judicial experience, Clinton nominees were nearly ten times more likely than Bush nominees to be rated as well qualified"

That's not evidence of bias, fool.

Well, apparently not in your land of make- believe.

[REDSTATEWARD]

The GOP is full of shit.

The democrats only have themselves to blame.

Red, look up the phrase "locus of control."

That's when you cannot accept responsibility for your own conduct, but must blame others.

"It's not our fault we act this way - you made us behave unethically!"

Um. The GOP’s behavior is not being questioned.
The hearing protests and defiant questioning by democrat-wannabe Presidential candidates leading the way are the stuff of five-year old brats.

[barton]

Harris and Booker were only preaching to democrats and the media.
(sorry for the pleonastic formulation)

You mean "democrats and the media" ?  Heh.  Cute.

Here are some relevant facts....

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/19/572046189/three-trump-judicial-nominees-withdraw-raising-some-questions-about-vetting

This week Trump judicial nominee Matthew Petersen withdrew his name, amid controversy. It was the third such withdrawal in 10 days. Even so, President Trump's record on filling judicial vacancies has far outdistanced his predecessors.

Trump, aided by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has won confirmation of 12 appeals court nominees. That's more than any president in his first year, and indeed, more than Presidents Obama and George W. Bush combined.

Part of that success is due to the huge number of judicial vacancies that existed when Trump took office — 122. That staggering number is due to the fact that Republicans, who controlled the Senate in the last two years of the Obama presidency, confirmed only two appeals court judges — a record that dates back to the 1800s.

(....from same article)While the Obama administration sent all its potential nominees to the American Bar Association for rating as to qualifications, the Trump administration has refused to do that prior to nomination. And at the Senate Judiciary Committee, where traditionally appeals court nominees were considered on their own at a hearing, they now are routinely considered with several other judicial nominees, and senators have to pick and choose who they will question in the five or ten minutes allotted.

The result is that the vetting process at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue has become, as one Senate aide put it, an accident waiting to happen.

Speaking of the ABA, it gave its highest endorsement, wiell-qualified, to Kavanaugh.
It is more meaningful in this case since the ABA has a well documented bias against judicial nominees of GOP presidents.

You are evading Oil's point. 

As for "well documented" bias, kindly document it for us.  If you can.  And making sure you remove other factors, e.g. do GOP presidents tend to, on average, nominate less qualified persons?

In 2001, Professor James Lindgren at Northwestern University Law School examined ABA ratings for nominees to the U.S. Court of Appeals by Presidents George H. W. Bush and Clinton. Controlling for several objective credentials, Lindgren found that, for nominees without prior judicial experience, Clinton nominees were nearly ten times more likely than Bush nominees to be rated as well qualified.


Also in 2001, the Journal of Law & Politics published a study of this subject by John Lott of the American Enterprise Institute. Lott supplemented Lindgren’s measures of professional competence and also found that “being a Clinton nominee significantly raises the probability that someone will be given a ‘well-qualified’ recommendation from the ABA.”

In 2009, three political scientists addressed this issue, publishing their findings in Political Research Quarterly. These scholars used two different models; each showed bias in favor of Democratic judicial nominees. Moreover, they found, this bias was especially pronounced in the likelihood that a nominee would be rated well qualified.


John Lott, now with the University of Maryland, revisited this subject in 2013. Using a larger data set, he again found that the ABA “systematically giv[es] lower ratings to Republican circuit court nominees.”
This history of controversy over the ABA’s ratings, validated by studies showing systematic and even dramatic bias against Republican nominees, might counsel dismissing anything the ABA has to say. But, in a somewhat unusual way, it actually makes the ABA’s rating of Kavanaugh even more meaningful.


The ABA unanimously gave Kavanaugh its highest well qualified rating. Its published criteria explain what this means for a Supreme Court nominee:

A Supreme Court nominee should possess an especially high degree of legal scholarship, academic talent, analytical and writing abilities, and overall excellence. The ability to write clearly and persuasively, to harmonize a body of law, and to give meaningful guidance to trial courts, circuit courts and the bar for future cases are particularly important skills for a Supreme Court nominee. . . . To merit the Committee’s rating of “Well Qualified,” a Supreme Court nominee must be a preeminent member of the legal profession, have outstanding legal ability and exceptional breadth of experience, and meet the very highest standards of integrity, professional competence and judicial temperament. The rating of “Well Qualified” is reserved for those found to merit the Committee’s strongest affirmative endorsement.


If Kavanaugh, nominated by a Republican president, can get such applause from an organization known for documented bias against judicial nominees of Republican presidents, he must be a good choice.

Thanks.   Interesting studies.   If the ABA is indeed biased, that would potentially render its entire vetting process suspect,  in regard to ANY nominee.   Just saying, your argument cuts both ways.   Also, the study findings could indicate that Republicans have for some partisan reason tended to push nominees who show less legal scholarship,  given that the disparity was greatest among nominees lacking bench experience.   Maybe scholarly pursuits correlate with a more liberal view of reality.

[josh]

You still have zero clue what actually occurs when an adult crosses the border with a child and is not "legal".

Here, let me help:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/us/child-separated-from-mom-interview/index.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/23/613907893/aclu-report-detained-immigrant-children-subjected-to-widespread-abuse-by-officia

https://people.com/crime/immigration-worker-charged-sexually-molesting-8-migrant-children/

(Oh, before you jump on your "see, it's not just Trump" bandwagon, I will remind you of three things:

a) I objected to the way kids were handled under Obama, too, though he did nothing as scurrilous as what Trump has done.

b) Trump has subjected far more kids to this inhumane treatment than happened during the entire 8 years of the Obama administration.

c) The whole "but Obama did it, too!" line of defense is morally bankrupt, to start with. "But so what if we are doing this terrible thing, when your hero did it, too!" is stupid and wrong-headed. "Sure, our president is a sleazeball, but the one before him made mistakes, too!" is not a defense at all.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/us/undocumented-migrant-children-detention-facilities-abuse-invs/index.html

Morally bankrupt, Kiid. Not in one place. Not in two places.

And you keep defending it.

[josh]

"Controlling for several objective credentials, Lindgren found that, for nominees without prior judicial experience, Clinton nominees were nearly ten times more likely than Bush nominees to be rated as well qualified"

That's not evidence of bias, fool.

Well, apparently not in your land of make- believe.

Not in anybody's who is being honest.

If you always appoint qualified candidates and I never appoint qualified candidates and a study concludes that your candidates receive high marks from the ABA more often than mine, that is not because the ABA is biased. It's because your appointees are better qualified!

Duh.

[josh]

Kiid complained that I said the taking of these kids and refusal to return them was kidnapping.

He never did explain what he would call it, instead.

But...
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/01/blumenthal-family-separation-kidnapping-tsr-sot-vpx.cnn

[josh]

The GOP is full of shit.

The democrats only have themselves to blame.

Red, look up the phrase "locus of control."

That's when you cannot accept responsibility for your own conduct, but must blame others.

"It's not our fault we act this way - you made us behave unethically!"

Um. The GOP’s behavior is not being questioned.
The hearing protests and defiant questioning by democrat-wannabe Presidential candidates leading the way are the stuff of five-year old brats.

Pretty funny coming from a member of President Trump's party.

[REDSTATEWARD]

The GOP is full of shit.

The democrats only have themselves to blame.

Red, look up the phrase "locus of control."

That's when you cannot accept responsibility for your own conduct, but must blame others.

"It's not our fault we act this way - you made us behave unethically!"

Um. The GOP’s behavior is not being questioned.
The hearing protests and defiant questioning by democrat-wannabe Presidential candidates leading the way are the stuff of five-year old brats.

Pretty funny coming from a member of President Trump's party.

Guess you didn’t follow the hearings.

[josh]

The GOP is full of shit.

The democrats only have themselves to blame.

Red, look up the phrase "locus of control."

That's when you cannot accept responsibility for your own conduct, but must blame others.

"It's not our fault we act this way - you made us behave unethically!"

Um. The GOP’s behavior is not being questioned.
The hearing protests and defiant questioning by democrat-wannabe Presidential candidates leading the way are the stuff of five-year old brats.

Pretty funny coming from a member of President Trump's party.

Guess you didn’t follow the hearings.

Your party dumps 42,000 documents the night before the hearings are starting, then it refuses to delay the hearings until there is time to review them.

And you think the Democrats' behavior is out of line?

Guess you don't follow rules of conduct.

Still.