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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-priests-nuns-sexual-slavery-abuse-saint-jean-order-france/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=63252259

Sexual slavery of nuns at the hands of clergy, to the point that one order got completely shut down as its entire basis was founded for that purpose.

Nor is sexual slavery of nuns merely a thing of the past.

I've made observations before about how there are multiple religions that have issues with pedophilia.

I think the comparison stops here. I do not know of another religion whose organization went this far down that road. This one belongs to the Catholics.

[barton]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/trump-tower-moscow-the-secret-files-cohen-sater-putin

Wow.  How many nails does this political coffin need FFS? 

[josh]

Two reactions:
a) Yay!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, wait, what? Just for the speech? Dang!

b) "Build the wall!! Build the wall!"

[LarryBnDC]

I’m not watching but I understand Rick Perry is the designated survivor... God help us all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-2qfDNc

[REDSTATEWARD]

Maison des Animaux.

Redweird, I agree with NA that this isn't really a 4th amendment issue.  When the President doesn't jettison his business enterprises, the public has every right to know if there are conflicts of interest.  I refer you to the Post article, which addressed this. 

  Not only no but HELL NO!

December of 2018 in the liberal DC Circuit.


The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit on Tuesday upheld a ruling dismissing an attempt to overcome IRS privacy rules to acquire President Donald Trump’s tax returns through a public-records lawsuit.

The Electronic Privacy Information Center attempted to use a Freedom of Information Act request to get the president’s tax returns, which he has withheld citing a pending Internal Revenue Service audit. Legal experts contend nothing prohibits the president from releasing his tax returns.

The panel on Tuesday said all government records are presumed public under FOIA unless specifically exempted. The panel added the Internal Revenue Code specifically exempts individual taxpayers’ tax returns. That code was passed after President Richard Nixon attempted to use the IRS to harass political opponents.

“This case presents the question whether a member of the public—here, a nonprofit organization—can use a FOIA request to obtain an unrelated individual’s tax records without his consent,” D.C. Circuit Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson wrote for the panel. “With certain limited exceptions—all inapplicable here—the answer is no. No one can demand to inspect another’s tax records. And the IRC’s confidentiality protections extend to the ordinary taxpayer and the President alike.”

Henderson wrote: “Because EPIC requested only records that are in fact exempt from FOIA, however, we affirm on the merits the dismissal of the three FOIA claims.”

The unanimous panel also included Judges Patricia Millett and Harry Edwards.

[kiidcarter8]

The Trump administration has kidnapped children - thousands of them -

You have to stop

[josh]

The Trump administration has kidnapped children - thousands of them -

You have to stop

And this is where YOU need to get things straight, Kiiid.

YOU are defending the indefensible.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a26135744/separated-migrant-children-welfare-trump-administration/
The Trump Administration* Has Ensnared Thousands of Kids in a Catch-22

Don't like Esquire?

Here's Fox:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-sees-limitations-in-reuniting-migrant-families
US sees limitations in reuniting migrant families

The Trump administration says it would require extraordinary effort to reunite what may be thousands of migrant children who have been separated from their parents and, even if it could, the children would likely be emotionally harmed.

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK CAUSED THE HARM?!

Give you a big hint, Kiid - it was the people who ILLEGALLY (a) separated the families to start with, (b) scattered them all over the country WITHOUT TRACKING WHO THEY SENT WHERE, and (c) INTENTIONALLY hid from the courts that they had these extra thousands of kids during the court hearings last summer!

Here's more:

The administration outlined its position in a court-ordered response to a government watchdog report last month that found many more migrant children may have been split from their families than previously reported. The government didn't adequately track separated children before a federal judge in San Diego ruled in June that children in its custody be reunited with their parents.

This was in July:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/07/05/trump-officials-vow-reunite-3-000-migrant-children-parents/759016002/

The Trump administration official in charge of caring for undocumented minors separated from their parents at the border said Thursday that his agency must reunite nearly 3,000 children with their parents, a sharp increase from the roughly 2,000 his agency contemplated last week.

Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said the work has been further complicated by the nation's "disjointed" immigration laws, the broad scope of the judge's "unprecedented" order, requests from members of Congress to tour HHS facilities, delays verifying familial relationships, and "unreliable" information provided by minors who are held in detention.

Azar insisted that his agency will fully comply with a ruling from District Judge Dana Sabraw to reunite all children separated from their parents under President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" policy by the end of this month. The judge ordered the department to reunite children under age 5 by Tuesday and all minors by July 26.

So, NO, Kiid, I WON'T STOP.

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DEFENDING THIS?!

You asked why you have to defend every member of the GOP.

I ask you why the fuck you have to defend every illegal, immoral, unethical, unreasonable, unconscionable thing this fucking administration does?!

[josh]

The Trump administration has kidnapped children - thousands of them -

You have to stop

More from the lying scumbags of the Trump administration in JULY of 2018:

"We will use every minute of time we have to confirm the parentage of those individuals … and to confirm that those parents are actually suitable for reunification, and then we will comply with the court’s order and reunify them," he said during a conference call with reporters.

In AUGUST came this headline:
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/nearly-500-children-are-still-separated-their-migrant-parents-n905461
Nearly 500 children are still separated from their migrant parents

FIVE HUNDRED, they said in August.

Documents filed in a lawsuit seeking to reunite the families say 497 of the 2,654 migrant children that the Trump administration took from their parents at the border are still in federal custody and not with parents. Parents of 322 of those children were deported.

Judge Dana Sabraw ordered all children under age 5 to be reunited with parents by July 10, but 22 of them are still separated, according to government documents filed Thursday. The deadline for reuniting 5- to 18-year-old children was July 26.

FIVE HUNDRED... except for the THOUSANDS more that the scumbags were choosing to hide from the judge, from the public, and STILL FROM THEIR PARENTS.

So, again, Kiiid, why do YOU defend these scumbags, these lawbreakers, these immoral unethical people?!

[josh]

The Trump administration has kidnapped children - thousands of them -

You have to stop

Trump administration officials weighed speeding up the deportation of migrant children by denying them their legal right to asylum hearings after separating them from their parents, according to comments on a late 2017 draft of what became the administration's family separation policy obtained by NBC News.

The draft also shows officials wanted to specifically target parents in migrant families for increased prosecutions, contradicting the administration's previous statements. In June, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said the administration did "not have a policy of separating families at the border" but was simply enforcing existing law.

The authors noted that the "increase in prosecutions would be reported by the media and it would have a substantial deterrent effect."

The administration broke the law to try to deter people from exercising their rights.

The administration lied about their policies. They lied about their efforts to reunite children with families. They lied about how many children they had. They lied about how many children remained.

They mistreated families. They prevented legal asylum applications and took the children from those legal asylum seekers and put the children in with unaccompanied minors, as if they had not families.

And they LOST them... if they are to be believed.

But why, Kiiid, would you believe them?

Why would anybody believe them?

And why would any moral human being defend them?

[bambu-wisdom]

Children separated from their ["illegal immigrant"] families?
Very sad.
Whose fault is it, in reality?
Who put the children in a position where it could happen?

If only the families had stayed home.

[barton]

Maison des Animaux.

Redweird, I agree with NA that this isn't really a 4th amendment issue.  When the President doesn't jettison his business enterprises, the public has every right to know if there are conflicts of interest.  I refer you to the Post article, which addressed this. 

  Not only no but HELL NO!

December of 2018 in the liberal DC Circuit.


The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit on Tuesday upheld a ruling dismissing an attempt to overcome IRS privacy rules to acquire President Donald Trump’s tax returns through a public-records lawsuit.

The Electronic Privacy Information Center attempted to use a Freedom of Information Act request to get the president’s tax returns, which he has withheld citing a pending Internal Revenue Service audit. Legal experts contend nothing prohibits the president from releasing his tax returns.

The panel on Tuesday said all government records are presumed public under FOIA unless specifically exempted. The panel added the Internal Revenue Code specifically exempts individual taxpayers’ tax returns. That code was passed after President Richard Nixon attempted to use the IRS to harass political opponents.

“This case presents the question whether a member of the public—here, a nonprofit organization—can use a FOIA request to obtain an unrelated individual’s tax records without his consent,” D.C. Circuit Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson wrote for the panel. “With certain limited exceptions—all inapplicable here—the answer is no. No one can demand to inspect another’s tax records. And the IRC’s confidentiality protections extend to the ordinary taxpayer and the President alike.”

Henderson wrote: “Because EPIC requested only records that are in fact exempt from FOIA, however, we affirm on the merits the dismissal of the three FOIA claims.”

The unanimous panel also included Judges Patricia Millett and Harry Edwards.

FOIA has nothing to do with the Committee Access provision of 1924.  Which, unlike FOIA, doesn't exempt any individuals tax returns.  As you perfectly well knew, Congress can access things the general public cannot.  Less than brilliant attempt to change the subject and obfuscate with an irrelevant decision.  Thanks for the citation. 

[LarryBnDC]

Children separated from their ["illegal immigrant"] families?
Very sad.
Whose fault is it, in reality?
Who put the children in a position where it could happen?

If only the families had stayed home.

Yeah, families walked a thousand miles on a lark. What is one GOOD reason to take kids from their parents?

[REDSTATEWARD]

Maison des Animaux.

Redweird, I agree with NA that this isn't really a 4th amendment issue.  When the President doesn't jettison his business enterprises, the public has every right to know if there are conflicts of interest.  I refer you to the Post article, which addressed this. 

  Not only no but HELL NO!

December of 2018 in the liberal DC Circuit.


The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit on Tuesday upheld a ruling dismissing an attempt to overcome IRS privacy rules to acquire President Donald Trump’s tax returns through a public-records lawsuit.

The Electronic Privacy Information Center attempted to use a Freedom of Information Act request to get the president’s tax returns, which he has withheld citing a pending Internal Revenue Service audit. Legal experts contend nothing prohibits the president from releasing his tax returns.

The panel on Tuesday said all government records are presumed public under FOIA unless specifically exempted. The panel added the Internal Revenue Code specifically exempts individual taxpayers’ tax returns. That code was passed after President Richard Nixon attempted to use the IRS to harass political opponents.

“This case presents the question whether a member of the public—here, a nonprofit organization—can use a FOIA request to obtain an unrelated individual’s tax records without his consent,” D.C. Circuit Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson wrote for the panel. “With certain limited exceptions—all inapplicable here—the answer is no. No one can demand to inspect another’s tax records. And the IRC’s confidentiality protections extend to the ordinary taxpayer and the President alike.”

Henderson wrote: “Because EPIC requested only records that are in fact exempt from FOIA, however, we affirm on the merits the dismissal of the three FOIA claims.”

The unanimous panel also included Judges Patricia Millett and Harry Edwards.

FOIA has nothing to do with the Committee Access provision of 1924.  Which, unlike FOIA, doesn't exempt any individuals tax returns.  As you perfectly well knew, Congress can access things the general public cannot.  Less than brilliant attempt to change the subject and obfuscate with an irrelevant decision.  Thanks for the citation.

Congress has no power to make public IRS files of anyone.
Period.

[facilitatorn]

The Trump administration has kidnapped children - thousands of them -

You have to stop

Just figure out a way to reunite the families. Once you do that, I’m sure it will eventually blow over and in 20 or 30 years people will consider voting for republicans again if there are any left.

[LarryBnDC]

We develop weapon systems for specific theaters then we sell these weapons to our allies but our allies sell these weapons to the adversary and we have to redesign the platforms because they’re compromised... So we upgrade and produce more of these systems through new defense contracts...

The Circle Of Life in the Military Industrial Complex...

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/02/middleeast/yemen-lost-us-arms/