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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[LarryBnDC]

Herring got out front of his shit and can legitimately blame bro culture at UVA forty years ago.

I am a little confused, though, by the logic there.  If Herring can blame bro culture, does this mean others can, too?

Yes. Blackface in undergrad forty odd years ago at UVA? Casual racism was the reality of the era.

I was more asking where one can draw a line.  40 odd years + undergrad is okay, but 30 odd years + grad school not okay?  I am not making that argument, just saying you beg that question.  I guess the main difference is Herring was upfront and out in front, where Northam got freaked and started eating his own foot.

Exactly.

However, someone pulling that blackface shit as an adult in recent years has no leg to stand on.

My solution in VA is for the Lt. Gov. to resign, Northam appoints a woman to replace him as Lt. Gov. and then resigns. Herring stays at AG.

[facilitatorn]

Larry, I agree completely on the Gov & LGov.
VA Dems need to replace Fairfax with a younger Democratic woman of color first. Then Northam can resign.

Now, let’s get back to planning the presidential perp walk, trump’s uninaugural parade.

[kidcarter8]

Why are Democrats voting against William Barr's nomination?

[LarryBnDC]

Don’t be stupid be a smarty come and join the Nazi Party!


https://www.thedailybeast.com/metropolitan-republican-club-leader-says-he-advised-nazi-friendly-german-party

[LarryBnDC]

Why are Democrats voting against William Barr's nomination?

Iran-Contra

[REDSTATEWARD]

Herring got out front of his shit and can legitimately blame bro culture at UVA forty years ago.

I am a little confused, though, by the logic there.  If Herring can blame bro culture, does this mean others can, too?

Yes. Blackface in undergrad forty odd years ago at UVA? Casual racism was the reality of the era.

I was more asking where one can draw a line.  40 odd years + undergrad is okay, but 30 odd years + grad school not okay?  I am not making that argument, just saying you beg that question.  I guess the main difference is Herring was upfront and out in front, where Northam got freaked and started eating his own foot.

Exactly.

However, someone pulling that blackface shit as an adult in recent years has no leg to stand on.

1984 is recent?  The two incidents were 4 years apart (1980 and 1984) and both were students.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Herring got out front of his shit and can legitimately blame bro culture at UVA forty years ago.

I am a little confused, though, by the logic there.  If Herring can blame bro culture, does this mean others can, too?

Yes. Blackface in undergrad forty odd years ago at UVA? Casual racism was the reality of the era.

I was more asking where one can draw a line.  40 odd years + undergrad is okay, but 30 odd years + grad school not okay?  I am not making that argument, just saying you beg that question.  I guess the main difference is Herring was upfront and out in front, where Northam got freaked and started eating his own foot.

What Larry said, but I also think there is some recognizable distance between posing in black face in order to complete a tableau with someone in a KKK outfit (and finding it so representative of yourself that it is included in your yearbook page) and doing so to pose as a rapper.

Also, needs to be said, Herring's mea culpa was actually convincing.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Herring got out front of his shit and can legitimately blame bro culture at UVA forty years ago.

I am a little confused, though, by the logic there.  If Herring can blame bro culture, does this mean others can, too?

Yes. Blackface in undergrad forty odd years ago at UVA? Casual racism was the reality of the era.

I was more asking where one can draw a line.  40 odd years + undergrad is okay, but 30 odd years + grad school not okay?  I am not making that argument, just saying you beg that question.  I guess the main difference is Herring was upfront and out in front, where Northam got freaked and started eating his own foot.

Exactly.

However, someone pulling that blackface shit as an adult in recent years has no leg to stand on.

1984 is recent?  The two incidents were 4 years apart (1980 and 1984) and both were students.

19 year old undergrad vs. Grad Med Student...judging from my experience I'm comfortable with the latter being described as an adult and the former not.

[NeedsAdjustments]

A Virginia Military Institute yearbook overseen by future state Senate Majority Leader Tommy Norment in 1968 features a host of racist photos and slurs, including blackface.

https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/virginia/article_d4ce7700-2ae3-11e9-ace9-ff7814740140.html

Will Virginia Republicans have a response to this?  I haven't seen one yet.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Herring got out front of his shit and can legitimately blame bro culture at UVA forty years ago.

I am a little confused, though, by the logic there.  If Herring can blame bro culture, does this mean others can, too?

Yes. Blackface in undergrad forty odd years ago at UVA? Casual racism was the reality of the era.

I was more asking where one can draw a line.  40 odd years + undergrad is okay, but 30 odd years + grad school not okay?  I am not making that argument, just saying you beg that question.  I guess the main difference is Herring was upfront and out in front, where Northam got freaked and started eating his own foot.

Exactly.

However, someone pulling that blackface shit as an adult in recent years has no leg to stand on.

1984 is recent?  The two incidents were 4 years apart (1980 and 1984) and both were students.

19 year old undergrad vs. Grad Med Student...judging from my experience I'm comfortable with the latter being described as an adult and the former not.

I'm not.  But regardless both pale in comparison to the accusations against Fairfax.
What a dilemma  facing the democrats in Virginia.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Herring got out front of his shit and can legitimately blame bro culture at UVA forty years ago.

I am a little confused, though, by the logic there.  If Herring can blame bro culture, does this mean others can, too?

Yes. Blackface in undergrad forty odd years ago at UVA? Casual racism was the reality of the era.

I was more asking where one can draw a line.  40 odd years + undergrad is okay, but 30 odd years + grad school not okay?  I am not making that argument, just saying you beg that question.  I guess the main difference is Herring was upfront and out in front, where Northam got freaked and started eating his own foot.

Exactly.

However, someone pulling that blackface shit as an adult in recent years has no leg to stand on.

1984 is recent?  The two incidents were 4 years apart (1980 and 1984) and both were students.

19 year old undergrad vs. Grad Med Student...judging from my experience I'm comfortable with the latter being described as an adult and the former not.

I'm not.  But regardless both pale in comparison to the accusations against Fairfax.
What a dilemma  facing the democrats in Virginia.

And now the Republicans.

[whiskeypriest]

I find it funny that there are just 2 on this forum that feel Northam has not shown he is a racist.  And thus should not resign

Dems seemingly want to eat their own though - should be interesting.  (Al Franken redux?)

Yeah, funny that the board's two racists think Northam's not a racist. Actuallly funny is not the right word. Sadly predictable take maybe.

Also sadly predictable: your rejection of the idea Democrats act on principle - or rather a principle other than "defend our own regardless until it become impossible to do so."

[kidcarter8]

Herring got out front of his shit and can legitimately blame bro culture at UVA forty years ago.

I am a little confused, though, by the logic there.  If Herring can blame bro culture, does this mean others can, too?

Yes. Blackface in undergrad forty odd years ago at UVA? Casual racism was the reality of the era.

I was more asking where one can draw a line.  40 odd years + undergrad is okay, but 30 odd years + grad school not okay?  I am not making that argument, just saying you beg that question.  I guess the main difference is Herring was upfront and out in front, where Northam got freaked and started eating his own foot.

What Larry said, but I also think there is some recognizable distance between posing in black face in order to complete a tableau with someone in a KKK outfit (and finding it so representative of yourself that it is included in your yearbook page) and doing so to pose as a rapper.

Also, needs to be said, Herring's mea culpa was actually convincing.

Nobody has confirmed it was Northam in that photo

Keep up

[Yankguy1]

Northam has copped to darkening his face to look like Michael Jackson.

Keep up. 

[whiskeypriest]

Herring got out front of his shit and can legitimately blame bro culture at UVA forty years ago.

I am a little confused, though, by the logic there.  If Herring can blame bro culture, does this mean others can, too?

Yes. Blackface in undergrad forty odd years ago at UVA? Casual racism was the reality of the era.

I was more asking where one can draw a line.  40 odd years + undergrad is okay, but 30 odd years + grad school not okay?  I am not making that argument, just saying you beg that question.  I guess the main difference is Herring was upfront and out in front, where Northam got freaked and started eating his own foot.

What Larry said, but I also think there is some recognizable distance between posing in black face in order to complete a tableau with someone in a KKK outfit (and finding it so representative of yourself that it is included in your yearbook page) and doing so to pose as a rapper.

Also, needs to be said, Herring's mea culpa was actually convincing.

Nobody has confirmed it was Northam in that photo

Keep up

I am amused that you are open to the possibility that he just thought it would be a cute idea to place a picture of two other people in racist costume on his yearbook page.