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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17250 on: July 24, 2019, 08:08:13 PM »

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People are leaving California in droves, reportedly.
"Roads are carparks, housing is unaffordable, etc." ...so say Americans on YouTube.
Let's see if you can see the internal inconsistency in your statement. You don't need a Harvard degree to do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oJmYr08o-4
Unboxing CALIFORNIA: 10 Reasons Why Everyone is Leaving.
No one goes there. It's too crowded.

I know. I’d post but I’m too distracted by the sound of the ice cream truck.

It’s 76 Fahrenheit, 24 Celsius, in San Diego, right now, with by some miracle copious elbow room, and forecasts of all that persisting through next week. Saints be blessed and all that.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17251 on: July 24, 2019, 08:11:11 PM »

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People are leaving California in droves, reportedly.
"Roads are carparks, housing is unaffordable, etc." ...so say Americans on YouTube.
Let's see if you can see the internal inconsistency in your statement. You don't need a Harvard degree to do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oJmYr08o-4
Unboxing CALIFORNIA: 10 Reasons Why Everyone is Leaving.
No one goes there. It's too crowded.

Always go to other people’s funerals, otherwise they won’t come to yours.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17252 on: July 24, 2019, 08:11:16 PM »

But clearly the key exchange here was Mueller parsing his words because he knows the OLC determination protects our “President”. That’s what REDSTATWARD dunks on.

 No. That is what Mueller rebutted as false.

Mueller rebutted his own report as false?  NO.  He parsed his words.  In his report he makes clear he does not make a determination because charging the President when there would be no trial gives Trump no official avenue to address the charges.  But in the report he also says that if he could have cleared Trump he would have, and today he said that Trump is not exonerated of the obstruction charge, while describing actions by Trump and his associates that sound an awful lot like obstruction.  So you do the math.

If Obama had okayed a tax cut Hillary would be President today.

And you would still be talking about bringing her up on criminal charges over her emails even as in the real world you are A-OK with a Republican "President" who obstructs justice and commits a little light treason.

REDSTATEWARD got his tax cut.

He’s a quotidian limbic bottom feeder, our Red.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17253 on: July 24, 2019, 08:58:54 PM »

But clearly the key exchange here was Mueller parsing his words because he knows the OLC determination protects our “President”. That’s what REDSTATWARD dunks on.

 No. That is what Mueller rebutted as false.

Mueller rebutted his own report as false?
He rebutted his answer to a misleading question.
You must not have watched. 

If Obama had okayed a tax cut Hillary would be President today.

And you would still be talking about bringing her up on criminal charges over her emails even as in the real world you are A-OK with a Republican "President" who obstructs justice and commits a little light treason.

Then impeach him. You got the votes.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17254 on: July 24, 2019, 09:25:18 PM »

California has lost over 500,000 jobs to China alone, we need to balance trade with China, they need to buy our stuff. Their people need jobs, and our people need jobs too! If they want us to buy their stuff, then they need to buy our stuff.

The Chinese need to buy California wine, and California cheese, and Florida orange juice, and Kentucky Bourbon, and Idaho frozen French fries, and other products from the USA, we have great stuff, it is not punishing them by making them buy our stuff. They will love American products. And China loves McDonald's.

Americans are great at marketing and advertising, and the Chinese already love McDonald's, we can sell them stuff the same way that we sell them Big Macs at McDonald's.

We just need to be able to get our goods into the Chinese markets without the high tariffs so our goods are competitively priced, and we need to be able to do advertising there on their televisions and radios and newspapers, etc. We are great at marketing and advertising and at selling stuff. We can easily sell our stuff in China if we are allowed to.

Salute,

Tony V.

T.V.    What if them there Chinese do not wish to get drunk on California wine and Kentucky bourbon?  Or get obese on Idaho French Fries and Fatty Big Macs from McDonalds?
I wouldn't eat a BigMac if it were given to me and I was hungry, that's how bad they are!

Market to the Chinese things that fit THEIR culture, quite trying to make them assimilate to ours.
Self-determination. That's the ticket.

In leadership training one learns to build on one's strengths. And also it is similar to when one opens an Italian restaurant in Anaheim, the locals love Italian food. The Chinese love McDonald's, so that is one of our strengths, we can build on that. You build on your strengths, that model works in China. And we have products that the people in other nations would love to be able to buy.

We need to balance trade. We need jobs too, our streets are lined with homeless people and we have new immigrants arriving every day who need jobs. And you build on your strengths.

You do not build detention centers and call those job creation. Fuck those jobs.

I would rather have a nice winery making wine, and employing immigrants, and making cheese with milk from my own cows. See, that is how one must think to survive and rise. And it would be great if I could export products to China. (And it would be cool to be able to sell Italian wine in China too.)

And it is like when Guns and Roses goes to Japan, they love American music in Japan. Music is one of America's strengths.

Right now the Chinese markets are not open to our goods, they have McDonald's and other American companies doing business there, but the USA has so much more to sell to the Chinese besides soybeans. We have great stuff that the Chinese will like. We need for the Chinese markets to be open to American products, plain and simple. They need to be fair on trade.

Salute,

Tony V.


Our biggest strength, Tony, is selling the instruments of war around  the world.
War is America's top business enterprise.....military bases around the world, ships sailing
Around the world, satellites keeping watch around the world. 
We have been on a war footing since 1940 and continue to arm everyone in the Middle East with
Hardware.  Before we took over Afghanistan and Iraq we were arming them with weapons.
We have no problem arming both sides in a conflict, see Iran-Iraq.
Putin just sold weapons to Turkei to the US's detriment.  But not to worry, Trump will get his cut
from this deal.
Sorry, Tony, if I do not share your concern that enough California wine is being consumed in China.

A healthy peacetime economy breeds further peace, whereas a bad economy, such as the Great Depression lead to bad times such as World War II. People who are poor and starving are easier puppets to play against the wealthy, etc.

In Nicaragua, if the people were wealthy like modern Costa Rica then they never would have fought against each other. The people were poor and starving, so they were easy puppets.

If the economy is good, then it is better for peace. And certainly a good economy promotes less suffering, people are healthier, and people are more comfortable. Comfortable people are less likely to want to go to war.

A healthy peacetime economy is a good thing.

And I would love to see the people of Nicaragua happy.

Expanding peacetime trade with China would be good for everyone. Right now it is lop-sided, and we must not stand for it, we need fair and balanced trade.

And for Afghanistan, they should grow cotton, like Egypt, and they can make stuff from the cotton, and they can export stuff around the world. Afghanistan could have a great peacetime economy.

http://www.theglobalist.com/aid-and-the-afghan-cotton-saga/

A healthy peacetime economy is good for everyone. The haters are less likely to gain power over people who are happy and educated.

Salute,

Tony V.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17255 on: July 24, 2019, 09:28:57 PM »

But clearly the key exchange here was Mueller parsing his words because he knows the OLC determination protects our “President”. That’s what REDSTATWARD dunks on.

 No. That is what Mueller rebutted as false.

Mueller rebutted his own report as false?
He rebutted his answer to a misleading question.
You must not have watched. 

If Obama had okayed a tax cut Hillary would be President today.

And you would still be talking about bringing her up on criminal charges over her emails even as in the real world you are A-OK with a Republican "President" who obstructs justice and commits a little light treason.

Then impeach him. You got the votes.


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17256 on: July 24, 2019, 09:32:53 PM »

Less than an hour after the hearing, this happened.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-24/trump-asks-for-emergency-order-blocking-house-tax-return-request

Trolls and bots out there swearing this was a good day for Trump.

The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17258 on: July 24, 2019, 09:41:07 PM »

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« Reply #17259 on: July 24, 2019, 09:42:21 PM »

Less than an hour after the hearing, this happened.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-24/trump-asks-for-emergency-order-blocking-house-tax-return-request

Trolls and bots out there swearing this was a good day for Trump.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17260 on: July 24, 2019, 10:22:06 PM »

Mueller was a bust.
Nancy Pelosi is smiling.
And she got a tax cut.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17261 on: July 24, 2019, 11:00:22 PM »

Less than an hour after the hearing, this happened.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-24/trump-asks-for-emergency-order-blocking-house-tax-return-request

Trolls and bots out there swearing this was a good day for Trump.

The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!

Wasn't a good day for anybody.
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« Reply #17262 on: July 24, 2019, 11:32:36 PM »

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People are leaving California in droves, reportedly.
"Roads are carparks, housing is unaffordable, etc." ...so say Americans on YouTube.
Let's see if you can see the internal inconsistency in your statement. You don't need a Harvard degree to do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oJmYr08o-4
Unboxing CALIFORNIA: 10 Reasons Why Everyone is Leaving.
No one goes there. It's too crowded.

I know. I’d post but I’m too distracted by the sound of the ice cream truck.

It’s 76 Fahrenheit, 24 Celsius, in San Diego, right now, with by some miracle copious elbow room, and forecasts of all that persisting through next week. Saints be blessed and all that.

It's 43 Celsius [109.4 F] in Paris.
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« Reply #17263 on: July 24, 2019, 11:37:08 PM »

Luee says "Better safe than sorry."

I am sure Luee feels much safer knowing this high school kid was prevented from going to the college soccer event.

Fortunately, they had a feeble excuse to hold him, if not to do so for three weeks!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/23/us/us-citizen-detained-texas/index.html

(His mother should be punished for stupidity.)

Puleeze, it is not as if they are going after all Latino names. All have a case history. Looks like this particular family all had false identity papers. It is more than stupid to slip into the US and make up false papers.

The kid was a US citizen.

He was held for three weeks, even when they had an easy way to verify his citizenship.

He was not a threat!

Like I said, I knew you would be happy.

He should blame those entering illegally.

Yeah, because lawmen are not responsible for following the law or doing their jobs.

Got it.

Asshole.

The law is an ass...and is being changed.
...just hasn't actually been changed in writing in America yet.
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« Reply #17264 on: July 24, 2019, 11:51:15 PM »

Luee says "Better safe than sorry."

I am sure Luee feels much safer knowing this high school kid was prevented from going to the college soccer event.

Fortunately, they had a feeble excuse to hold him, if not to do so for three weeks!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/23/us/us-citizen-detained-texas/index.html

(His mother should be punished for stupidity.)

Puleeze, it is not as if they are going after all Latino names. All have a case history. Looks like this particular family all had false identity papers. It is more than stupid to slip into the US and make up false papers.

The kid was a US citizen.

He was held for three weeks, even when they had an easy way to verify his citizenship.

He was not a threat!

Like I said, I knew you would be happy.

He should blame those entering illegally.

Yeah, because lawmen are not responsible for following the law or doing their jobs.

Got it.

Asshole.

The law is an ass...and is being changed.
...just hasn't actually been changed in writing in America yet.

(a) In this instance, the law was not the problem, the lawmen were.

(b) You are under this bizarre belief that it is okay for the government to break the law because they expect to change it later. It's not - it remains a crime, no matter what they hope will happen later.

And if you are going to obsess, as you do, about the fact that (some of) these people broke the law by entering the country (which this kid did not, as he was and is a US citizen), then nattering on about how it is okay for lawmen to violate the law is pretty hypocritical.

Nothing new.

You are the ass.

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