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Re: Rumor has it
« Reply #15270 on: December 08, 2020, 07:46:23 PM »

Rumor was that Randle+Frank were on their way to the Kings for Buddy Heild but the Kings wanted the Dallas pick and the Knicks balked.

That might be why the Knicks are kicking the tires on these big men.   In case the trade warms up again.

This is probably Randle's last year with the team regardless.  So it makes sense to get a look at some guys.

Isn't this actually the deal I had up on the forum a number of days back?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15271 on: December 08, 2020, 08:00:20 PM »

Ian Begley

Knicks will sign Andrew White III to an Exhibit 10 deal, league sources confirm. NYK has 20 players under contract, need to waive a player to add White III, Skal Labissiere or James Young. White III played for NYK's G League team last year. ESPN first reported White III's signing

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15272 on: December 08, 2020, 08:01:39 PM »

One way to ensure Obi gets max minutes:

Buddy Hield for Julius Randle and a protected first rounder.

They can have Frank as well, give us a warm body back and/or a second.

Why yes.. it WAS.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15273 on: December 08, 2020, 08:03:25 PM »

I didnt make it up

Sac wants picks - and a salary match puts Randle - a great scorer - sorry - in play.

I am sure Knicks

a)  come up short on pick offer(s)

and/or

b)  dont wish to give up Randle in this one.

Yep
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« Reply #15274 on: December 08, 2020, 08:13:23 PM »

I didnt make it up

Sac wants picks - and a salary match puts Randle - a great scorer - sorry - in play.

I am sure Knicks

a)  come up short on pick offer(s)

and/or

b)  dont wish to give up Randle in this one.

Yep

Which proves that our own Chamaco Cartero is a genius.

Now, Rest in peace, peace Rudy G.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15275 on: December 08, 2020, 08:23:28 PM »

Well he says he didn't make it up.  So if reading something somewhere makes one a genius then ok.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15276 on: December 08, 2020, 08:52:22 PM »

That's right

Didn't make up that Hield was available
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15277 on: December 08, 2020, 08:55:14 PM »

So sorry forum pet Frank has to be involved

Is there middle ground between the pick Sacramento seeks and what we would give?  We shall see.

Buddy and Obi as new starters sure is considered a shakeup.  Get it done Leon.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15278 on: December 08, 2020, 09:27:07 PM »

At the moment, fuck Buddy Hield. Let him refine his game on someone else’s dime and maybe pick him up on his next discounted contract. He’s just a little better than Hardaway who isn’t worth what he gets paid.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15279 on: December 08, 2020, 09:47:11 PM »

We haven't had a HIELD since Allan.  Unless you count Fredette.
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« Reply #15280 on: December 08, 2020, 09:51:14 PM »

Well he says he didn't make it up.  So if reading something somewhere makes one a genius then ok.

Compared to most other Chamaco's posts, this one is sorta reasonable, genius by comparison, admittedly to a very, very low bar. Example:
We haven't had a HIELD since Allan.  Unless you count Fredette.

But still...


Rest in peace, Rudy G.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15281 on: December 08, 2020, 09:54:38 PM »

If Knicks pass with Sac it will be because Leon sees a better Randle deal down the road.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15282 on: December 09, 2020, 04:55:31 AM »

I'd take Hield over Randle.
Both scored around 19 Pts per last year, but Hield was jacking 9.4 trips and hits them at a good rate.  A more modern player.
Of course that's why we'd have to throw in a 1st rounder.  And a Franc.

For NYK it would give us more shooting and floor spacing.
While making more sense of our roster by allocating minutes to all our long-term players and reducing journeymen to the proper backup roles.  Hield - RJB - Toppings - Mitch would be our men going forward, and all of them would start with ample minutes available for Knox. Opens up the PF slot for Toppings, where we'd be somewhat thin, but provides more minutes for Knox and even a role for MKG.  Limits the Alec Burks Experience.  And the Au Revoir Show.

Be losing a DAL 1st rounder (say around #22 pick) and Franc, and we'd be committing long term 4/$88 to Hield, a $25M decreasing salary.

Hield seems to me a guy who got a bit of a big head and is never that locked in on defense.  (hey, give me $25 Large a year and my head might zeppelin up too).
So starting Hield, RJB and Toppings, our defense would likely be pretty awful.
But if ObiT can hit some 3's, we'd have a decently balanced offense.

Hield turns 28 next week, so entering his prime.
Hield is a big time shooter, but doesn't really impact winning much (except a few games where he gets super-hot).  Lost his starting SG slot last year to Bogdan who is more versatile and sharper.  Then moped about it.
At least Buddy is a stellar FT shooter -- not that he ever gets there.

Not sure why SAC didn't just match Bogdanx2 at $18M and then flip Hield.
They're really counting on rook Ty Hal to hold down the SG slot (if they move Hield)?  they seem to like bruisers inside, Bagley, Rich Holmes, Whiteside ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15283 on: December 09, 2020, 05:43:03 AM »

Financially the deal doesn't even need to include Randle.  Hield for Frank works too. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15284 on: December 09, 2020, 07:06:52 AM »

Excising Randle is part of the appeal ...
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