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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Most mid-season trades go down around the deadline.
But POR with its injuries, has a lot of incentive to make an early deal soon after Dec 15. 

Knix have a lot to offer them.
I don't think we especially want Whiteside, he's mostly salary ballast.
We could give them Morris/Portis so they'd have a starting PF.
Ellington/Trier so they'd have a bench sniper.
Smith/Franc so they have a backup PG.
Taj/Portis so they have a C.
Not all of that obviously, but some combination of 2 or 3 players.

I don't think we do any deal with them without getting Simons.
It'd be the cost of saving their season, losing a promising yute several years away.  I'm not familiar with him at all.

I'd also like to hold Morris and Smith out for a later deal.  But I'd assume POR would want Morris more than Portis.  Big consistency difference there.

I might offering Portis, Ellington/Taj and maybe throwing in Franc for Whiteside + Simons.  If we think Simons is that appealing.

If they want Morris:
Morris + Taj/Ellington + Franc/Smith Jr = Whiteside, Simons, 1st rounder.

If not, there will be others trading partners.
But looks like no reason to keep this deep but incoherent Knick team together.  Trades and tank, yute and high picks.  That's where Bo's at.
Fizz has already proven a good D & T coach (Development & Tanking).
Just keep an eye out for an upgrade.

[bodiddley]

DET had 37 Assists.
5 guys with 5 or more assists.
Nice job.
Says something about the Knick D as well ...

[facilitatorn]

Randle and Portis are both playing unquestionably bad D.

If Fizz decides he’s had enough at some point, I’m fine with turning the clipboard over to Mike Miller.

[jaqdavisone]

Me and my guys were talking about the Knicks body language.  They all look confused, it looks like we are winging it out there.  Im not sure if they are not listening to Fizz but the group does not look well coached.  We shouldn't have a blowout sale yet. CHANGE THE COACH, get a proven coach who is not stuck in his ways.  Get Mark Jackson now, he is really good with connecting with the players, He may get Frenchie playing well before we trade him and he become the Walt Frazier on the Spurs.  Nobody on our squad looks well coached.  Fire Fizdale now........For the sake of Humanity FIRE FIZDALE...

[bodiddley]

Boo!

We have a mismatched roster, mostly new faces and poor G play.
What do you expect?
Before the last two losses we were pretty competitive every game (well just the 1st half v BOS).

My two Fizz complaints: running RJB into the ground for no reason (Hey, Wilt once averaged over 48 mpg ...) & not letting Franc spread his wings.  We have turnovers all over anyway, might as let Franc make some while trying to run the team.  Give Franc big minutes and let him play PG and see how he does.  He did all right with France.  Hell, try to up his trade valuie if nothing else.

[lesterluv]

 lol, lol, lol...there are so many teams with mismatched rosters, tons of new faces, too many young players, too many old players, new coaches, new systems poor this play or that play, injuries out the wazoo, tough schedules, witches' curses, leaky plumbing..only one is 1 and 7 worst in the league   #GoKnicks

*** Carlos' # looking like a positive LOCK

*** New worst record ever in sight?..Fiz want to own that shiz ALL BY HIZSELF?

[kiidcarter8]

DET had 37 Assists.
5 guys with 5 or more assists.
Nice job.
Says something about the Knick D as well ...

As mentioned earlier, they are not enabling Frank to blanket cover the opposing PG - disallowing their offense to get into their patterns.

We boost Frank's defensive prowess but settle pretty much for what he gives us in OFF BALL D and shot challenging - not what he can do to snuff out the beginning offense of an opponent with a full 94 feet.

[kiidcarter8]

Me and my guys were talking about the Knicks body language.  They all look confused, it looks like we are winging it out there.  Im not sure if they are not listening to Fizz but the group does not look well coached.  We shouldn't have a blowout sale yet. CHANGE THE COACH, get a proven coach who is not stuck in his ways.  Get Mark Jackson now, he is really good with connecting with the players, He may get Frenchie playing well before we trade him and he become the Walt Frazier on the Spurs.  Nobody on our squad looks well coached.  Fire Fizdale now........For the sake of Humanity FIRE FIZDALE...

Tough to bring in a new coach, no matter how experienced - and not give him a training camp to install stuff.

Fac's Mike Miller idea (or Jud Beuschler, who may have the IT factor) has more teeth.

[facilitatorn]

Miller has actually made players better on the GLeague level and won at a good clip with much higher roster churn than we see at the top level. Has Judd ever held the top seat?

[Jerrya]

Yes...It looks like Fiz is in over his head.  Playing worse than last year. Question is, why did he get an extension...Trend line was going down last year.

[Kam]

19pt
8reb
2ast
2.3blk
16PER


Not the same player as before.
And he usually starts the season strong and wears down so we will see.


Much like Odell Beckham they were traded before seeing their potential evaporate.
ONLY Dallas just committed a .155 billion to KP

[kiidcarter8]

First player in history to go 200-100-50 over first 8 games of a season

[kiidcarter8]

Punk smart in another fight

Monk, Bridges, Biyombo look good

Rozier?  Nyet.

[bankshot1]

heh

under-sized Celts buzz the Hornets with stifling D

Gordo with back-to-back beauties

C's looking good, playing smart hoops, and they're fun to watch

[bodiddley]

Smart can play on my team any time.

Silly to dismiss KZ as diminished.
He just missed a year and a half.
Needs to fully trust his repaired knee.
Could take a little while.
Meanwhile he's not far off of 20 & 10 & 2 blocks.

I wanted to predict that KZ would be a beast and make us look foolish.
But it takes time to get the rust off and get back into the swing and trust your body.  So I mentioned before the season that you can't really judge KZ's return until after the calendar flips to 2020.