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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Why are Knox and Barrett given minutes regardless of their play?

Because we are 11-31 and (desperately) need at least one of those two to become a solid starter in this League. 

If you mean just the PHX game, RJB only got 14 mins; Knox just 17.

But I didn't see the game, might try to catch a replay or highlights now.

[bodiddley]

1-7 last 8 games.
Next 4:
PHI - @Cle - LAL - TOR
So at least some good teams coming to MSG.
Better be up for CLE.

Then the next 9 leading to the A-S Break features all below .500 East teams, except one game v. IND (and Memf a losing West team).  So that stretch will give a good indication of what we are.

[Yankguy1]

I'm confident we already have that indication.

[carlos123]

I need some REAL good news.

I don’t give a fuk about Lonzo or any other ball for that matter.

You want good news? Change teams.

The 2 idiots running and ruining this franchise need to be held accountable and shit canned out the door.

Once again they've just thrown a bunch of players together and hoped for the best.

This team just sucks as I've been saying all year.

Can’t change teams. You know how it goes.

Hoping perrymills are shown the door at the end of the season. We know Dolan likes Ujiri.

One can always hope ...

[elephant]

Then the next 9 leading to the A-S Break features all below .500 East teams, except one game v. IND (and Memf a losing West team).  So that stretch will give a good indication of what we are.

I'm confident we already have that indication.

Funny.

But. Yeah.

[bodiddley]

Well, we looked better after Elf returned and with a new head coach.  Our best player, MaMo just missed 5 games.

After the next 4, we have a string of games against non-playoff teams, mostly East team we compete with.  So a chance to see how we are with Morris, Elf and Coach Malone.

We need shooters.  Why not give Trier some run?

Wonder if we have anything to trade for Jrue?
Seems there's talk of him being available.

[chipstern]

https://sports.theonion.com/ncaa-determines-becoming-a-bengal-punishment-enough-for-1841064671?utm_source=TheOnion_Daily_RSS&utm_medium=email

[Kam]

Once again they've just thrown a bunch of players together and hoped for the best.

This team just sucks as I've been saying all year

For today your point rings true

But how about getting on the coach a bit?  Why did Allen not play - replaced by Frank Clank?  Kadeem was on a good run.  Why are Knox and Barrett given minutes regardless of their play?

Exactly.  Or Trier instead of Dotson.  Hard not to point the finger at the coaching when you get beat that bad by that team.  At the same time, we only have two consistent scorers.

[chipstern]

Once again they've just thrown a bunch of players together and hoped for the best.

This team just sucks as I've been saying all year

For today your point rings true

But how about getting on the coach a bit?  Why did Allen not play - replaced by Frank Clank?  Kadeem was on a good run.  Why are Knox and Barrett given minutes regardless of their play?

Exactly.  Or Trier instead of Dotson.  Hard not to point the finger at the coaching when you get beat that bad by that team.  At the same time, we only have two consistent scorers.

I've always like Dotson's motor, his defense and his long-range shooting.  But he has CLEARLY not recovered from shoulder surgery.  During Trier's garbage time moments, he has clearly been putting extra effort into defense and ball movement. 

Considering how desperate we are for offense, other than simply hoisting treys, I am baffled as to why Trier is not getting daylight?  WTF?  Does he have bodies in the basement? 

And hasn't Kadeem earned rotation minutes? 

[Kam]

What to do with Marcus Morris. 

He came back from being hurt in his best game as a pro and showed little rust.
The Knicks think they can get a protected 1st or two 2nds for him.

It makes sense to try to keep him because he is a leader and a good player
BUT
even if the Knicks trade him they can potentially re-sign him this summer. 

So when you view the team in the post-Porzingis epoch and you see DSJ having a hard time, don't you have to take one of the other returns you got from the trade (cap space used to sign Morris and others) and sign players with that space who can be traded into more assets?

[chipstern]

Out at least a week. 

Would seem like a propitious time to give Alonzo a long look, particularly if there is any interest in either

A) Truly evaluating his talent

B) Showcasing him for a trade scenario

Alas, I suspect that Bullock will get RJ's minutes. 

I like Reggie, but come on man, what's up with burying Alonzo on the pine? 

[chipstern]

What to do with Marcus Morris. 

He came back from being hurt in his best game as a pro and showed little rust.
The Knicks think they can get a protected 1st or two 2nds for him.

It makes sense to try to keep him because he is a leader and a good player
BUT
even if the Knicks trade him they can potentially re-sign him this summer. 

So when you view the team in the post-Porzingis epoch and you see DSJ having a hard time, don't you have to take one of the other returns you got from the trade (cap space used to sign Morris and others) and sign players with that space who can be traded into more assets?

Mmmmm, interesting. 

Sort of how the Yankees traded what's his name (their #1 relief pitcher, Aroldis Chapman) to the Cubs, helping them to cement their first World Series win since, what, 1908, and shoplifted top prospect Glyber Torres as ransom. 

Then proceeded to re-up said same Chapman the following season. 

Alas, baseball and basketball work differently.  A prospect is a KNOWN QUALITY, and Glyber turned out to be a major STEAL, whereas a second round pick in the NBA Draft is either feast or famine. 

Might MM re-up in such a scenario?

Consider how emotional he was when the Phoenix Suns traded his brother in mid-season. 

I doubt he would re-re-consider the Knicks. 

[kiidcarter8]

even if the Knicks trade him they can potentially re-sign him this summer.


I wouldnt expect that

But...If we do keep Marcus management again runs the risk of having been lied to - as a nice 3 year deal (fair dollars) may get the "NYET - I will see who else chimes in" response.

Tough call.  I really like Tre Jones and a few others at the back end of round 1 this year.  And someone - some all conference stud - could drop like Porter off an injury or other concerns. 

[chipstern]

File this under beating a dead horse. 

While I believe your contempt for Fizdale has been justified. 

Your hallucinations based on signing Coach Bud in lieu of Coach Crud are worthy of Clipper Jane no less. 

You "Presume" that Porzingis would still be here, which on the face of it, is unsupported by any evidence...

Not to mention that...

Tim MacMahon: The Mavericks downgraded Kristaps Porzingis from questionable to out. This will be the 10th straight game Porzingis misses due to right knee soreness. – via Twitter espn_macmahon

And you project Bud getting up 30-35 wins with the same fucking personnel, ostensibly because we could wager the ranch that Bud would not have gone along with complicity in tanking. 

Then, so covered with honor, that given the credibility of Bud, the presence of KP, and a near playoff finish from our hometown team, we would not only have signed a true top-tier free agent, but would've (my fave part) likewise drafted Jah Morant. 

Presumably this wet dream is based on a burgeoning contempt for RJ, seeing as how he was this management team's choice.  As per Jah, well, if our Knicks finished in the 30-35-39 range as you project, that would've put us in the same class as the Hawks, the  Wizards, the Heat or the Hornets, which begs the question, in what Alternate Universe would Jah Morant have dropped from #2 to #8 or #9 or #10?  Hmmmm ?  Jaxon Hayes, Rui Hachimura, Cam Reddish. 

Given your glistening persona as a master of sarcasm and the absurd, perhaps we should credit the unabashed effulgence of your rectal emission as another foray into the realm of humor. 

Or perhaps not. 

[kiidcarter8]

The correct argument - Chip - is "why would you want Porzingis here at the salary we'd have needed to give him and the ? surrounding all aspects of his overall package?"

And the only proper comeback would be that we could/should have shopped him around or at a different time.