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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #10530 on: January 23, 2020, 10:42:44 AM »

I see the PG position like this for next year, Kam

Starter - add a player
Backup - Ntlikina, if he isnt dealt
Third man - possibly Allen

Dennis Smith is GONE one way or another.
Only way this isnt true is if we deal Payton now and give Dennis the keys - or at least the minutes to try to outplay FN last 25-30 games.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #10531 on: January 23, 2020, 11:31:57 AM »

Why not give Payton the keys?  Allen as primary backup.  Frank can be your defensive guy off the bench to slow down the opponent's best perimeter threat.   Dennis has no trade value.
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« Reply #10532 on: January 23, 2020, 02:46:55 PM »

LeBJ two games away from 3rd place all-time scoring.  And when he retires he'll probably be 3rd in assists as well.  With a possibility of getting to 2nd all-time in both those categories. If he stays healthy.

When you look at numbers and longevity and getting to the playoffs, LeBron might be the greatest regular season player ever.
The main flaw in his career is those lost finals.

He's gotta be Top 5 all-time player, probably Top 3, maybe higher ...
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« Reply #10533 on: January 23, 2020, 02:54:15 PM »

I've got him tied (wishy-washy Yankguy) for first.  The Finals thing is tough, but I also believe he only lost one with Finals with a better team and he won at least two (maybe all 3) with the lesser team.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #10534 on: January 23, 2020, 05:14:46 PM »

Franc played with nice aggression.  Even tried to dunk on LeBJ.  Held his pivot foot another time and just missed a short flip.  Another time bumped KCP and then misfired.  His jumper looks like he's not confident.  But Franc had energy.  Twice he guarded LeBJ credibly.  Once stopping him but then LeBJ pivoted around and made a nice flip.

Not sure why but Knix got 2 O-boards and nearly two more on Franc's first 5 misses.  So those misses weren't very harmful.
Franc had a nice oop assist to Robinson.  A hockey assist on a good pass to a cutting Portis that Mitch dunked.  And should have had another assist, but Mitch blew the dunk, which has been a recent trend.  Probably leading the league in missed dunks.

Portis took some terrible shots 1st half.  Sometimes he's just launching a shot no matter what.  Also had some defensive cluelessness. 
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« Reply #10535 on: January 23, 2020, 05:18:44 PM »

No Frank's misses really aren't harmful.  He's a great kid too.   


On another note, all the yoga we must all be doing to have our backs be able to bend this way is crazy, huh?
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« Reply #10536 on: January 23, 2020, 09:36:42 PM »

Why not give Payton the keys?  Allen as primary backup.  Frank can be your defensive guy off the bench to slow down the opponent's best perimeter threat.   Dennis has no trade value.

Payton HAS the fucking keys

Everything I said stands even with that
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« Reply #10537 on: January 23, 2020, 09:38:17 PM »

Why not give Payton the keys?  Allen as primary backup.  Frank can be your defensive guy off the bench to slow down the opponent's best perimeter threat.   Dennis has no trade value.

Payton HAS the fucking keys

Everything I said stands even with that


SO why would we deviate from that?  If payton was healthy all season we would have 16-20 wins.
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« Reply #10538 on: January 23, 2020, 09:48:18 PM »

I almost forgot.  I already have Frank converted to small forward with a chance to start
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« Reply #10539 on: January 23, 2020, 09:51:47 PM »

Why not give Payton the keys?  Allen as primary backup.  Frank can be your defensive guy off the bench to slow down the opponent's best perimeter threat.   Dennis has no trade value.

Payton HAS the fucking keys

Everything I said stands even with that


SO why would we deviate from that?  If payton was healthy all season we would have 16-20 wins.

That's fair.  Just not sure Elf gets 8 mil from us over the summer
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« Reply #10540 on: January 23, 2020, 09:52:35 PM »

Especially with all the 1/2 players in the draft
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« Reply #10541 on: January 23, 2020, 10:07:14 PM »

Especially with all the 1/2 players in the draft

No young player (unless we get extremely lucky in the draft like Utah and Dallas have recently) can just come in and take over at PG.  We need a steady veteran to guide the way and i think Elfrid is the blueprint for young vet than knows the league.  DSJ and Frank are still trying to figure things out but Elf knows what he is, knows his game, stays within his game, and gives us a credible chance in most games.  He is the most consistent.  Frank is the next most consistent.  But Allen is an intriguing replacement.  DSJ is an enigma that won't be solved here.
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« Reply #10542 on: January 24, 2020, 12:29:54 AM »

Dallas didn’t get lucky with Luca. They just knew what they were doing. Doncic had been winning everything for Real Madrid for the last 3 years before he entered the draft, as I posted here repeatedly, though we didn’t have a shot at him, and Knicks probably didn’t know it anyway.

Atlanta really messed up 😳
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #10543 on: January 24, 2020, 12:41:29 AM »

Mavs bench 18-32

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« Reply #10544 on: January 24, 2020, 12:42:53 AM »

Dallas didn’t get lucky with Luca. They just knew what they were doing. Doncic had been winning everything for Real Madrid for the last 3 years before he entered the draft, as I posted here repeatedly, though we didn’t have a shot at him, and Knicks probably didn’t know it anyway.

Atlanta really messed up 😳

Folks were afraid to pub the white guy as #1 overall.

Not sure ATL was as good a fit for Doncic
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