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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Anybody Brave?
« Reply #13950 on: November 01, 2020, 03:34:58 PM »

I've already noted that Okoro and RJB make a poor tandem.
We really need a guard or wing shooter.

WiseMan makes little sense when we have Mitch.
Toppin could apprentice under Randle a year, but drafting a poor defending PF is underwhelming.  At PF, I would take Okongwu, who is a beast.


WiseMan is a good fit for GSW, but do they really want to use their #2 pick on a C?
I wouldn't. Can't they just pick up Dwight, McGee, a Plumlyzeller type, or a Biyombo on the cheap?  Kanter and Len will likely be available for not much. Though they probably want a defender/lob target.*

Edwards could be a nice pick to both help now and build for the future. I like the Edwards pick if they flip Wiggins for Love. Add in Love as a vet rebounder, stretch 4. Then get the fresh legs and energy of Edwards, and just have one mistake prone scoring yute instead of two.   That's how I would go it.

* Here's an unlikely hypo:
Would folks be willing to trade Mitch & the #8 pick to GSW for the #2 pick?
NYK would get Ball or Edwards, a blue chip G.
We'd lose a very promising young defensive C to move up.
GSW would get a long defensive cog and rim assaulter.
Mitch could look terrific there.  A Mitch-Dray backline.
And they'd still get to draft a Vassell, Haliburton, Hayes type offender.
Could be a good deal for both teams. Provided Knix hit on the pick and get a future AS type.
Mitch & Vassell for Ball. Or Mitch & TyH for Edwards. Some permutation like that.
With the cupboard bare, can Knix afford to do a 2-for-1 to upgrade at G?
Any takers?

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13951 on: November 01, 2020, 03:43:07 PM »

Mitch's future salary would be at issue.  I'd think about it.  GS would have to kick something in.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13952 on: November 01, 2020, 03:44:44 PM »

Wolves would first need to pass on LaMelo
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13953 on: November 01, 2020, 04:11:49 PM »

It is a weak draft with no clear cut future stars.
And reportedly a lot of teams willing to trade down.
So if the trade needs balancing, could be:

#2 pick & Looney for #8 & Mitch
Would give us a C replacement.

If that goes too far, could be:
#2 pick & Chriss = #8 & Mitch

Marquese is young (23) and bouncy.  Had a solid season for GSW, but is limited for now.If they got Mitch, Chriss would be expendable for them.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13954 on: November 01, 2020, 04:31:18 PM »

Keep Mitch. Take the guy available at 8. Use later picks and space to move into the teens if possible.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13955 on: November 01, 2020, 04:45:37 PM »

Keep Mitch. Take the guy available at 8. Use later picks and space to move into the teens if possible.


You better believe.


#2 pick & Chriss = #8 & Mitch

Kill that noise.
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« Reply #13956 on: November 01, 2020, 04:47:50 PM »

Keep Mitch. Take the guy available at 8. Use later picks and space to move into the teens if possible.

It looks like BoZ is determined to get rid of him. BoZ don't like Cs.

I was going to say that thankfully he don't run the team, but unlike most here, I distrust new management and coaching staff.

Does anybody know where Miller is heading? I'm looking for a new team to root for.

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2020/8/19/21375163/mike-miller-will-search-for-new-coaching-opportunities-after-getting-snubbed-by-the-knicks
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13957 on: November 01, 2020, 06:00:39 PM »

I like Mitch.  Think he's our best player.  I could be happy with 10 years of Mitch.
I don't know enough about Ball or Edwards to know if I'd do that deal.
I do think a starting PG is much more valuable than a starting C these days.

I'm fine keeping Mitch and drafting Vassell/TyH/Hayes at #8.
Though Ball & Looney for Mitch & #8 is intriguing.

I just don't know the draftees well enough to really have an opinion.
Proposing a deal isn't the same as advocating it.
I was just trying to think what would get us into the conversation for GSW's #2 pick.  And I think Mitch would get them interested.  Be a great fit there.

Randle and RJB will look better with a strong PG and some shooters.
FVV as a FA or Ball as a PG draftee would help a lot.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13958 on: November 01, 2020, 07:03:34 PM »

Warriors likely better off dealing with Charlotte - they'd be almost a guarantee to get Wiseman or Avdija - plus whatever CHA gives.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13959 on: November 01, 2020, 07:04:09 PM »

Jordan would of course take BALL.
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« Reply #13960 on: November 01, 2020, 10:02:47 PM »

Jordan would of course take BALL.

He also took Kwame Brown.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13961 on: November 02, 2020, 12:41:43 AM »

Warriors likely better off dealing with Charlotte - they'd be almost a guarantee to get Wiseman or Avdija - plus whatever CHA gives.

Well, trade down slightly to draft a guy they prefer anyway is certainly good.
But hard to see what CHA has to offer.  Monk is expendable, but not likely a GSW priority.
Biyombo is available and could help GS but has a $17M price tag, so a trade doesn't work.

Anyway, GSW is in Win Now mode, so will likely try to pick up Dwight or another 15-20 min defensive C
on the cheap or with their MLE.  For all of Mitch's promise, he can still be mistake prone, as he's still developing.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13962 on: November 02, 2020, 09:39:02 AM »

Biyombo is a free agent

Monk, PJ Washington...... but likely future picks as well, may help GS.

Unlikely.... we'll see.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13963 on: November 02, 2020, 10:01:21 AM »

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13964 on: November 02, 2020, 11:35:38 AM »

Mike Miller is still under a Knicks contract for next year.  Maybe he can re-join Westchester's coaching staff.
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