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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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EXACTLY
« Reply #24780 on: September 01, 2022, 07:20:13 PM »

I'll sleep well knowing we still have ALL OUR PICKS, Four extra picks, a wild card in Cam, and some light-blue chip prospects on rookie deals.

Leon has all the clay he needs to make the trade he wants to make.

JUMP BALL!

Knicks also still have RJ and Grimes and Obi and IQ.

Hell, at the risk orf reporting myself, we also have both KAM and Cam

We have the protected Dallas, Detroit, Washington and Miwaukee #1 picks through 2025.  We used the #1 we got from OKC [via Denver] to entice Charlotte to pick Jalen Duren for Detroit. 

We have all of our own #1 picks in 2023-24-25-26-27-28-29-30.  When in Knicks history have we had ALL OF OUR OWN #! PICKS?

Probably still some #2 picks remaining after the Detroit transactions.   

A Waiver Wire Buffet and Expiring Contract Deals often come into play in February. 

We'll be ready. 
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Re: EXACTLY
« Reply #24781 on: September 01, 2022, 08:22:53 PM »

I'll sleep well knowing we still have ALL OUR PICKS, Four extra picks, a wild card in Cam, and some light-blue chip prospects on rookie deals.

Leon has all the clay he needs to make the trade he wants to make.

JUMP BALL!

Knicks also still have RJ and Grimes and Obi and IQ.

Hell, at the risk orf reporting myself, we also have both KAM and Cam

We have the protected Dallas, Detroit, Washington and Miwaukee #1 picks through 2025.  We used the #1 we got from OKC [via Denver] to entice Charlotte to pick Jalen Duren for Detroit. 

We have all of our own #1 picks in 2023-24-25-26-27-28-29-30.  When in Knicks history have we had ALL OF OUR OWN #! PICKS?

Probably still some #2 picks remaining after the Detroit transactions.   

A Waiver Wire Buffet and Expiring Contract Deals often come into play in February. 

We'll be ready.

Which of these picks likely land a great player?
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Meltdown
« Reply #24782 on: September 01, 2022, 08:42:55 PM »

Alan Hahn, of all people, having a meltdown on FACEBOOK.

"Gut punched.  Should have paid the NY tax."

Uh...no.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24783 on: September 01, 2022, 09:35:30 PM »

Yes, nice pass by Leon

Cavs ahead of Knicks right now - but at least Mitchell didnt land with Heat.

Not so fast.

We'll see about the Cavs.
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Re: EXACTLY
« Reply #24784 on: September 01, 2022, 09:48:53 PM »


Knicks also still have RJ and Grimes and Obi and IQ.

Hell, at the risk orf reporting myself, we also have both KAM and Cam


Well, at least you'll have Kam.
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Re: Meltdown
« Reply #24785 on: September 01, 2022, 11:36:20 PM »

Alan Hahn, of all people, having a meltdown on FACEBOOK.

"Gut punched.  Should have paid the NY tax."

Uh...no.

He's the best - and he's right
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24786 on: September 02, 2022, 12:15:22 AM »

Let us see what our play looks like before we start planning the next deal.


the next deal everyone will be discussing:

Julius Randle ----------------------------------------------> CHA
Gordon Hayward and Evan Fournier ---------------------> LAL
Russel Westbrook and two 1st round picks (from LA) --> NYK

In some variations Cam will be going to LA as well.  Or no Cam but only one pick coming to NY.

I would hope the Knicks would keep Russ in a suit all year.
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Re: EXACTLY
« Reply #24787 on: September 02, 2022, 12:18:38 AM »


Knicks also still have RJ and Grimes and Obi and IQ.

Hell, at the risk orf reporting myself, we also have both KAM and Cam


Well, at least you'll have Kam.

We both have yet to reach our potential in NY.   
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24788 on: September 02, 2022, 12:44:32 AM »

Let us see what our play looks like before we start planning the next deal.


the next deal everyone will be discussing:

Julius Randle ----------------------------------------------> CHA
Gordon Hayward and Evan Fournier ---------------------> LAL
Russel Westbrook and two 1st round picks (from LA) --> NYK

In some variations Cam will be going to LA as well.  Or no Cam but only one pick coming to NY.

I would hope the Knicks would keep Russ in a suit all year.

Why?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24789 on: September 02, 2022, 12:56:42 AM »

Why would I want Russ in a suit? or Why would we make this trade?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24790 on: September 02, 2022, 03:15:33 AM »

Why not just trade Randle for Hayward, if we are headed in that direction?

I would not be opposed.
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« Reply #24791 on: September 02, 2022, 03:28:26 AM »

If we want to make life complicated and really clean up our books and still get guys who can help us now,

Randle, Fournier and one or two conditionals, depending on quality, for Hayward and Oubre. They are both useful guys, both with confidence, one with finesse and one with pop, both with short contracts.

Williams Randle Fournier Rozier LaMelo. It will be a Kiid league pass extravaganza.

We would have

Mitch Hartenstein Sims
Toppin Reddish
Hayward Grimes Oubre
RJ IQ
Brunson Rose McBride

And all our future picks plus one or two besides. It opens up a lot of room when we need to make decisions on our kids.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24792 on: September 02, 2022, 09:14:01 AM »

Seriously, Fac - I think Thibs is viewed as a long time coach here.  Taking away his assets like Fournier and then putting the guy who comes in in street clothes doesnt jibe with this.  Even if Thibs thught we could survive the Randle-Toppin starter swap. 

You want this deal?  Then envision Russ in the backcourt causing havoc for opponents.  We could still use Grimes plenty as a 2/3 off the pine.

Thibs - 41-31
           37-45
           44 wins minimum for momentum purposes.

What you want is  to tank.  How does this fit in with even having Thibs here?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24793 on: September 02, 2022, 10:13:39 AM »

Crazy to trade Randle (at least the above trade), especially after how the Mitchell thing played out. Let me count the ways.

[1] You realize we have to score points, right? Like there will be games. And we're suppose to win our share.

[2] Randle is our best player.

[3] Brunson! Julius' worse came from when he was running the team. He's no longer running the team. Let's see how the experiment pans out.

[4] The entertainment value of the "Randle Redemption Tour" should be entertaining.

[5] Even if you want to trade him, you'll never get less value than trading him now.
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« Reply #24794 on: September 02, 2022, 10:42:32 AM »

Elephant - those who wish to trade Randle dont even want anything back for him
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