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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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bodiddley

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1425 on: October 25, 2018, 03:07:55 PM »

Zonja was often out of position on D, and struggled on O.
He really is a mistake player, and it's going to take a lot to sort out his head/decision-making.

I was a little disappointed to see Vonleh force some shots, including one where he was triple-teamed.  Maybe the staff asked him to look to score more, but I was pleased when he was playing more within himself.  Wasn't a bad game for Vonleh, just some worrisome signs, imo.

Tim's defense was subpar, and there was nl reason to reinsert him down 16 going into the 4Q.  Especially since he has been playing big minutes.

Dotson has been better all around than I expected.  I hadn't seen him before the past few games, and I thought it was likely a case of folks here touting a 2nd rounder with limitations (like with Hicks & Kornet Chop Suey).  But Dotson has been shooting well from outside, cuts well, has taken some charges and played pretty good D.  We'll see if he can keep it up -- and he's no doubt made the scouting report by now -- but he has looked like a budding two-way player.

With Burke & Datsun in the rotation I kind of regret only checking out one Westchester game last year.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1426 on: October 25, 2018, 04:17:15 PM »

I like Whiteside more than, say, Dwight Howard.  (who Kiid has a never-ending deep passion for)

14 years

1035 games

21.6 PER

128.3 win shares

110-99 offense-defense efficiency

Better in playoffs than reg season (10 trips in 14 years)

Playoff rebound per leader 5X
Playoff blocks per leader 3X

Has averaged SEVENTY FOUR games played over 14 seasons

Yeah, I like him, idiot.

Full story here..... had some baggage - and has persevered.

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/09/19/dwight-howard-hornets-magic-lakers-james-harden-kobe-bryant
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1427 on: October 25, 2018, 04:37:40 PM »



what is going to save this team is a healthy KP, signing a type A free agent next year, drafting a VERY high lottery pick, developing Knox and somehow finding a legit point guard who does not presently exist on this roster.



Of course

But we have to play THESE games first.
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But does the team want to be saved?
« Reply #1428 on: October 25, 2018, 04:51:20 PM »

We might have the worst team in the league.  Play that to our advantage.
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« Reply #1429 on: October 25, 2018, 05:01:54 PM »

By banking on Frank and thus not taking a point guard this year, we are almost locked into looking for one in the next draft.

Lots of good SG/SF types in the top of the draft - and alas......yes - we have THJ and Knox filling those roles.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1430 on: October 25, 2018, 05:03:04 PM »

Dwight's also a career 56% FT shooter, with 3 years under 50%.
Also, never averaged 2 assists per game any season.
It's odd because he still puts up numbers, just not impactful numbers.

Distractions and some back injuries limited him.
And he never expanded his game.
Basically he lost his way, and never found who he was.
Seems for years now he plays basketball because it pays him well and he always played basketball.  Would probably be happier doing something else.

He's coming up on 33 (early December).
Should get to 20K points (1 shy of 18K now), if he plays two or 3 seasons.  Right now 14th in career rebounds (2 ahead of Shaq).
3x DPOY; 8x all-star.
HoF?
Probably, but maybe no one will be too excited.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1431 on: October 25, 2018, 05:04:07 PM »

I like Whiteside more than, say, Dwight Howard.  (who Kiid has a never-ending deep passion for)

14 years

1035 games

21.6 PER

128.3 win shares

110-99 offense-defense efficiency

Better in playoffs than reg season (10 trips in 14 years)

Playoff rebound per leader 5X
Playoff blocks per leader 3X

Has averaged SEVENTY FOUR games played over 14 seasons

Yeah, I like him, idiot.

Full story here..... had some baggage - and has persevered.

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/09/19/dwight-howard-hornets-magic-lakers-james-harden-kobe-bryant
Heh.  "Idiot"
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We don't have to draft a PG
« Reply #1432 on: October 25, 2018, 05:06:21 PM »

We can acquire one through draft trade or FA.

I would still give Frank at least one start at PG before moving on.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1433 on: October 25, 2018, 05:21:05 PM »

Knix needed a lot and Knox looks like a good pick.

What PG were we going to take?
Shai?  #16 pick Zhaire?

You take Shai and then what do you do with Franc?
And then you still need a studly wing.

And Franc has plenty of room for growth.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1436 on: October 25, 2018, 07:55:01 PM »

Knix needed a lot and Knox looks like a good pick.

What PG were we going to take?
Shai?  #16 pick Zhaire?

You take Shai and then what do you do with Franc?
And then you still need a studly wing.

And Franc has plenty of room for growth.

Burke might be more effective coming off of the bench as an offensive fireplug, perhaps playing off the ball with Mudiay and Trier. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #1437 on: October 25, 2018, 08:22:48 PM »

I wouldn't dare try to guess lineups with this guy when Emmanuel returns.

Heck - when KP is back.

Who knows - at any specific time, which 5 will be out there?

A mess.
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« Reply #1438 on: October 25, 2018, 09:20:44 PM »



what is going to save this team is a healthy KP, signing a type A free agent next year, drafting a VERY high lottery pick, developing Knox and somehow finding a legit point guard who does not presently exist on this roster.



Of course

But we have to play THESE games first.

yes of course we do.  unfortunately.

our coach, who i like BTW, must use this time to see if any our talent is worth  keeping ( knox is a given) and our GM should really be trying to move Thomas and Lee to improve our cap space for next year.

Personally I'd give Burke,  Dotson, Vonleh and Frank lots of minutes to try to develop them and perhaps they could become valuable members of the bench.

PS

i don't see any of them a future starters.




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Mudiay
« Reply #1439 on: October 25, 2018, 11:33:50 PM »

2018-2019

We shall see what we've got.  Don't sleep on him. 
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