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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[Kam]

This is our last best shot at pairing a Top draft pick with KP and KK.  Yes you can win the lotto from anywhere.  But why not ensure your best shot.  Plenty of time to have a feel-good final fifteen games where we show some promise ESPECIALLY if KP plays.

[Kam]

Knicks always F*** up and go like 5-5 over their last ten games.

[Kam]

Adam Silver isn't gonna punish the New York Knicks for tanking after all these years of other teams tanking. He'd be beheaded on Park Ave. if he took our pick away.

[lesterluv]

That photo may have done more for Knox's game than all of Fiz's coaching....

[Kam]

 vets play a necessary role.

I don't LOVE Fiz, but what did you exactly expect this year?

Which vets? Kanter? lol

You mean a player who has no future with the team, barely the NBA, and stats shows causes more harm than good on the floor?

THJ started off well, getting to the line more, and maybe it's the plantar injury, but he's been particularly inefficient since.

Lee also not up to par, so I guess you're thinking of Lance? He's playing now.

Lance plays because Fiz has a preference for guys who play Defense and for bigs who do multiple things on the floor.

In Mitch case its the lobs and rim protection.
In Luke's case its the threes and the open driving lanes and the occasional blocked shot.

[Kam]

Fizdale expects more than one season.  And he will be given more than one season. 

Why play guys this year who won't be here next year?

Why not give minutes to the guys you know will be here next year?

Only a shortsighted person (or person-canine hybrid) would play the vets and slow the growth of NEXT years team.

[PrezIke]

I don't LOVE Fiz, but what did you exactly expect this year?

Losing basketball,of course. Is that a serious question? But winning culture, accountability, individual and team growth. Defensive and offensive plans.  You lay the foundation. You help the youth grow. Good coach can provide that. We have a guy who talks game...

You clearly don't understand basketball or how teams work if you don't know what you're seeing or should be seeing.

Defense much improved last two games...so say Clyde and Breen as well.

Oddly enough one of our worst defensive players...a vet...not playing and a few games later the defense improved dramatically.

TBF, Mudiay has been out and you could argue that's someone he gave time to, and there is a correlation there

I think most of the players like him, and respect him. 

Accountability? Doesn't benching various players for periods after giving them chances in the rotation count?

He seemed to speak honestly about why Kanter was benched after Enis constantly complained via social media/the media in ways that some might argue were unprofessional. I suspect Fiz wanted to do it sooner, but enough body of work was provided to justify dropping him

Frank may not be developing how we wanted, but Trier, Robinson, Knox, Vonleh and Mudiay have made strides.

Saying I don't know what basketball is sounds pretty silly though, doesn't it? Come on Les. I'm not going there.

[PrezIke]

Knicks always F*** up and go like 5-5 over their last ten games.

Guaranteed

[PrezIke]

 vets play a necessary role.

I don't LOVE Fiz, but what did you exactly expect this year?

Which vets? Kanter? lol

You mean a player who has no future with the team, barely the NBA, and stats shows causes more harm than good on the floor?

THJ started off well, getting to the line more, and maybe it's the plantar injury, but he's been particularly inefficient since.

Lee also not up to par, so I guess you're thinking of Lance? He's playing now.

Lance plays because Fiz has a preference for guys who play Defense and for bigs who do multiple things on the floor.

In Mitch case its the lobs and rim protection.
In Luke's case its the threes and the open driving lanes and the occasional blocked shot.

Right. That I get.

However wasn't really playing so much when Kornet was healthy and took Kanter's spot.

[PrezIke]

Fizdale expects more than one season.  And he will be given more than one season. 

Why play guys this year who won't be here next year?

Why not give minutes to the guys you know will be here next year?

Only a shortsighted person (or person-canine hybrid) would play the vets and slow the growth of NEXT years team.

Yep

[elephant]

Which vets? Kanter? lol

You mean a player who has no future with the team, barely the NBA, and stats shows causes more harm than good on the floor?

You don't like the guy's game? Cool. But saying Kanter barely has any future in the NBA? That's some simple shit, hyperbole drifting toward incoherence.

[elephant]

Fizdale expects more than one season.  And he will be given more than one season. 

Why play guys this year who won't be here next year?

Why not give minutes to the guys you know will be here next year?

Only a shortsighted person (or person-canine hybrid) would play the vets and slow the growth of NEXT years team.

Why play guys who won't be here next year? Lesterdog answered that on the previous page:

"Young guys don't evolve by just dumping on more minutes anyway. They grow by being part of a winning system and culture. One in which vets play a necessary role. All anyone is learning here is how to be a loser for life."

[lesterluv]

I don't LOVE Fiz, but what did you exactly expect this year?

Losing basketball,of course. Is that a serious question? But winning culture, accountability, individual and team growth. Defensive and offensive plans.  You lay the foundation. You help the youth grow. Good coach can provide that. We have a guy who talks game...

You clearly don't understand basketball or how teams work if you don't know what you're seeing or should be seeing.

Defense much improved last two games...so say Clyde and Breen as well.

Oddly enough one of our worst defensive players...a vet...not playing and a few games later the defense improved dramatically.

TBF, Mudiay has been out and you could argue that's someone he gave time to, and there is a correlation there

I think most of the players like him, and respect him. 

Accountability? Doesn't benching various players for periods after giving them chances in the rotation count?

He seemed to speak honestly about why Kanter was benched after Enis constantly complained via social media/the media in ways that some might argue were unprofessional. I suspect Fiz wanted to do it sooner, but enough body of work was provided to justify dropping him

Frank may not be developing how we wanted, but Trier, Robinson, Knox, Vonleh and Mudiay have made strides.

Saying I don't know what basketball is sounds pretty silly though, doesn't it? Come on Les. I'm not going there.

With tonight's loss we are right on track for worst record ever.

With our history, that really takes doing.

I'll stick with everything I said.

[kidcarter8]

Fizdale expects more than one season.  And he will be given more than one season. 

Why play guys this year who won't be here next year?

Why not give minutes to the guys you know will be here next year?

Only a shortsighted person (or person-canine hybrid) would play the vets and slow the growth of NEXT years team.

This year's minutes dont make anyone better next year.  Just not how it works

A winning culture doesnt come from losing.  Maybe ONE team can point to that - the Spurs - and they didnt lose for long pre-Duncan.

Fiz says, look at the Nuggets, look at the Sixers, look at the Nets

OK, lets see how far those teams go.

You have to LAND draft picks = not GET high picks.

Curry and Thompson were like 7 and 11.  Giannis was a 15, Brogdon a second rounder.  Demarr, who begot Kawhi.....was a TEN.

Knicks didnt land picks........up til KP. 

[carlos123]

Fizdale expects more than one season.  And he will be given more than one season. 

Why play guys this year who won't be here next year?

Why not give minutes to the guys you know will be here next year?

Only a shortsighted person (or person-canine hybrid) would play the vets and slow the growth of NEXT years team.