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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Kam]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/us/new-york-vaccine-disparities/index.html

White New Yorkers took up Hispanic neighborhood's vaccine appointments.

Could and should have been avoided. But it should not have needed to be avoided.

"Please do not sign up if you are white", I suppose was the proper call.

Asshole.

Please do not sign up if you don't live on these specific streets" kind of like voting.

They should've been checking addresses from the start.  But better late than never.

[barton]

   “I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races … I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

-- Abraham Lincoln, 1858, in a public debate.

A detail, for you,  Redward.   

[Yankguy1]

I think public servants probably can find better things to do than removing Abraham Lincoln’s and George Washington’s names from schools.

[REDSTATEWARD]

   “I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races … I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

-- Abraham Lincoln, 1858, in a public debate.

A detail, for you,  Redward.

I was right.  You never paid attention to the San Francisco debate.

[barton]

I did,  and found scant grounds to think any committee based its choices just upon Wikipedia articles.

Perhaps sources like this?

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln3/1:20.1?rgn=div2;view=fulltext

I agree with Yank that schools may be sensible,  keeping presidential names,  but again,  can find no evidence that their negatives were the sole determining factor in name changes.
My point was that, if one is using racist views as a criterion of removal,  there are plenty of sources beyond Wikipedia to look at that provide solid evidence.   And Breitbart,  it's worth noting,  seems to rest its case based on only one council member.   Odd.

[bambu.]

YouTube:

'Audit the Audit' has a series of videos on YouTube detailing the interactions of police and people in various situations.

"DETAINED FOR EATING A SANDWICH" video shows the interaction between a man and a police officer on a train platform, the man eating a sandwich.

The man is angry because the cop says he is eating a sandwich, on a Bay area transit platform, that such an action is against the law.
Guy refuses to give cop his ID, or give his name.
The cop should've given the guy an alternative to showing ID, .....stating his name, or giving a fingerprint.
Guy was in the wrong, eating the sandwich on the platform breaches both Bay area transit law and CA state law.Breach payable by a fine of up to $250.
There are signs posted on the platform and area.

Man has sued claiming he was approached by the cop because of his race.
He got angry at the cop, refused to cooperate, was arrested, and taken off the platform in handcuffs.
He admitted he broke the eating and drinking law unknowingly.
The woman with the guy had a lot to say to the cop.
Audit the Audit gave the cop a 'C' ranking as he failed to explain to the guy about the name and fingerprint...and could have given the guy a warning.
Audit the Audit Gave the guy a 'C minus' for getting angry with the cop etc.

Audit the Audit is my new source of American law and police interaction.

[josh]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-30/dodger-stadiums-covid-19-vaccination-site-shutdown-after-dozens-of-protesters-gather-at-entrance

I think this ought to be arrestable - it is not free speech, it is blocking people from saving lives.

[bambu.]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-30/dodger-stadiums-covid-19-vaccination-site-shutdown-after-dozens-of-protesters-gather-at-entrance

I think this ought to be arrestable - it is not free speech, it is blocking people from saving lives.

Where was the water cannon?
What were the cops doing, watching?

If there weren't, there should've been cops there all the time...from start to finish of the day's vaccinating.
Are cops in America 'gun-shy' today, too scared to make people do anything?

The protesters should've been made protest away from the roadways.

[facilitatorn]

RSW,  you could be smarter and do some authentic critique of some Leftist excesses and blind spots.   And I'd be supportive of that and value the balance.   But you always seem to go for cut/pasting garbage without factchecking it, with this puerile glee:  Huhhuh,
lookit me,  owning those silly Libs!     Yawn.

It might be because, like John Snow and Millard Fillmore, he knows nothing

http://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/30/heres-what-happens-to-a-conspiracy-driven-party-463944

[josh]

Rudy G has (unwisely and stupidly, both) accused the Lincoln Project of being behind the Trump Insurrection.

They have replied:
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1355618315570393090

It's a doozy.

[Oilcandide]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-30/dodger-stadiums-covid-19-vaccination-site-shutdown-after-dozens-of-protesters-gather-at-entrance

I think this ought to be arrestable - it is not free speech, it is blocking people from saving lives.

Where was the water cannon?
What were the cops doing, watching?

If there weren't, there should've been cops there all the time...from start to finish of the day's vaccinating.
Are cops in America 'gun-shy' today, too scared to make people do anything?

Isn't it summer in Australia?   You should go outside,  get some fresh air.

[Kam]

This passage from the Bible could make for a great television show, just show a special team of people doing these things, it is their mission...

Psalm 82:3-4 New International Version (NIV)

3 Defend the weak and the fatherless;
    uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
    deliver them from the hand of the wicked.

This could be the motto of a special team, and in each episode of the show they go out and help people.

Salute,

Tony V.

Leverage follows a five-person team: a thief, a grifter, a hacker, and a retrieval specialist, led by former insurance investigator Nathan Ford, who use their skills to carry out heists to fight corporate and governmental injustices inflicted on ordinary citizens.

Final episode date: December 25, 2012
First episode date: December 7, 2008

[Oilcandide]

Rudy G has (unwisely and stupidly, both) accused the Lincoln Project of being behind the Trump Insurrection.

They have replied:
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1355618315570393090

It's a doozy.

Wow.   It's sad when someone seems hellbent on getting themselves into a padded room.   But given the damage Rudy has done,  it's hard to feel much pity.   

[luee]

I am fortunate to get my shot from the VA in Florida. Large senior population plus people coming from all over and Canada to get vaccine, a real mess. Never heard of race-ethnicity priority. Although somehow afro American church members here all got shots, played it on network news. If I was a latino or white senior still waiting I would be pissed.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/us/new-york-vaccine-disparities/index.html

White New Yorkers took up Hispanic neighborhood's vaccine appointments.

Could and should have been avoided. But it should not have needed to be avoided.

"Please do not sign up if you are white", I suppose was the proper call.

Asshole.

Please do not sign up if you don't live on these specific streets" kind of like voting.

They should've been checking addresses from the start.  But better late than never.

They had not made the NYC status exclusive, because they hadn't thought they would have to.