Bart you seemed to minimize the 9/11 attacks and the US emotion driven blood lust response to an act of war on our country in our country, that in hours cost 3,000 innocent victims, some of whom I knew well, as just an act of vandalism.
See my two replies to Hamster. Hope that resolves this.
Nor did I suggest appeasement. Just have a low regard for Forever Wars that do not really address the roots of terrorism. No offense to you, or your concerns that I somehow transformed overnight into a sociopath, but I think I've made my clarifications in good faith and am now done.
Bart
You certainly suggested it. That you don't recognize the meanings of your own words, is another matter.
And that you deleted your words of appeasement from the above quote is also telling.
And I made no suggestion you were a sociopath, you may be, but I've no clear indication of that. I just noted you seemed to think offering honey to terrorists who killed 3,000 US citizens would have been an adequate solution.
I'm not sure that would have sufficed.
For them or us.
Btw, type of honey do you favor Bart?
It’s better not to conflate al Qaeda and Afghanistan or al Qaeda and the Taliban. Beating the shit out of al Qaeda was by all means called for. Pairing that action with partnered investment and diplomacy was a better option than occupation through a bogus puppet government.
Instead of pursuing neocon neocolonialism, we could have gone after al Qaeda’s strong holds within the Saudi financial networks. Bindar Bush prevented that from happening, so we left the funds in place to help things like ISIS metastasize.
I didn't conflate anything, nor reccomend or damn any policies, but just asked a question of Bart about his post that I found questionable and offensive.
I take 9/11 seriously and personally, I lost friends, I breathed the smoke of the WTC, and I thought there was a cavalier attitude regarding the death of 3,000 Americans that day.
I also thank Biden for taking the politically impossible step of being the guy to turn off the lights there.
Enough was enough.
and 20 years was way too long.
We should have learned from our mistakes in Viet Nam that nation building is not a quick or easy or clean job.
Imperialism is not for democracies.
But I also damn the guy for doing it in what appears to be a hasty and ill-designed manner.
There had to be a better, more organized procedure for getting our allies and personnel out of that 7th century hell-hole, even if it took another 6+ months.
But that is way beyond my pay grade.
But its what Joe gets paid for and he fucked up.
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