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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Hairy Lime]

Ye shall reap what ye shall sow.

As do posters who call Mideast Muslims sand fleas.

But he is nice to people in real life!

[Oilcan]

Hehe! 

There's a real person at the end of every fiberoptic cable.  Tapping away. 

[LarryBnDC]

Amir Locke

9 seconds

Fuck Tim Scott

[REDSTATEWARD]

Whoopi is hardly a racist.
She is, however, stupid and lazy.
Remember she gushed over Jill Biden as an accomplished medical doctor.
And she maintained strongly that the holocaust was not about race.

Now she is fuming she got suspended.

Hannity had the right take.
When stupid people say stupid things change the channel.

 Judging from the cable TV ratings viewers of CNN, MSNBC, and subscribers of NYT, WashingtonPost, etc, are doing just that.

All in the Family goes down as one of the greatest TV Comedies of all time.
Too bad you never got the jokes.

[Hamilton Samuels]

This who is a racist today arguing is getting nowhere.


For anyone who cares to reply:
Q)  Does making a comment or assertion that someone infers to be "racist"
make the speaker "a racist" ?

No. People unwittingly say racist things all the time, thoughtlessly or because of cultural upbringing. There is a difference between a racist idea and a racist person. Ham is a racist person. And I am happy to be considered intolerant of racism by him.

So the recent case from the View with Whoopie,  you would not conclude from her statement, which she has retracted, that she is a racist person, but she did indeed express poorly a statement about racism.

I think she erred.

Others have written about this quite adroitly, so briefly I will just say that her statement was... ham-handed, but the notion of white vs. white-passing certainly plays a role in this. As I think I have observed here, previously, I perceive myself to be "provisionally white," not white.

And the debate over race vs. religion vs. ethnic vs. culture is hardly new to Jews in America (or elsewhere).

She addressed it from her POV as an American.

White folks can talk nuance but from MY life experience the world IS black and white and it is a bitch of a balancing act.

So was the Holocaust about race or not?

Is "Jewish" a race or a faith and an ethnicity? The Holocaust specifically was about destroying the Jews as a people, however you define it. I know Nazis talked of Jews as a race, but they also talked of Aryans as a race which they are not.

Stalinist.

[Hamilton Samuels]

This who is a racist today arguing is getting nowhere.


For anyone who cares to reply:
Q)  Does making a comment or assertion that someone infers to be "racist"
make the speaker "a racist" ?

No. People unwittingly say racist things all the time, thoughtlessly or because of cultural upbringing. There is a difference between a racist idea and a racist person. Ham is a racist person. And I am happy to be considered intolerant of racism by him.

So the recent case from the View with Whoopie,  you would not conclude from her statement, which she has retracted, that she is a racist person, but she did indeed express poorly a statement about racism.

I think she erred.

Others have written about this quite adroitly, so briefly I will just say that her statement was... ham-handed, but the notion of white vs. white-passing certainly plays a role in this. As I think I have observed here, previously, I perceive myself to be "provisionally white," not white.

And the debate over race vs. religion vs. ethnic vs. culture is hardly new to Jews in America (or elsewhere).

She addressed it from her POV as an American.

White folks can talk nuance but from MY life experience the world IS black and white and it is a bitch of a balancing act.

So was the Holocaust about race or not?

It was more than race. Nazis otherized Jews to the level of subhumans.

In America you are either white or you are not.

You didn't answer the question.

You did try to switch it to your favorite topic, though, which is to demonize white people.

Racist
.

[facilitatorn]

This who is a racist today arguing is getting nowhere.


For anyone who cares to reply:
Q)  Does making a comment or assertion that someone infers to be "racist"
make the speaker "a racist" ?

No. People unwittingly say racist things all the time, thoughtlessly or because of cultural upbringing. There is a difference between a racist idea and a racist person. Ham is a racist person. And I am happy to be considered intolerant of racism by him.

So the recent case from the View with Whoopie,  you would not conclude from her statement, which she has retracted, that she is a racist person, but she did indeed express poorly a statement about racism.

I think she erred.

Others have written about this quite adroitly, so briefly I will just say that her statement was... ham-handed, but the notion of white vs. white-passing certainly plays a role in this. As I think I have observed here, previously, I perceive myself to be "provisionally white," not white.

And the debate over race vs. religion vs. ethnic vs. culture is hardly new to Jews in America (or elsewhere).

She addressed it from her POV as an American.

White folks can talk nuance but from MY life experience the world IS black and white and it is a bitch of a balancing act.

So was the Holocaust about race or not?

It was about power.

The power of terror and false distinctions.

So is racism.

[kidcarter8]

So Jim, why does Hannity still have any viewers?  He has said enough stupid things.

And why are you, a man who deals only in facts, not worried that people are ignoring legit news media for the propaganda machine of Fox?

And have you sent in your contribution to Sarah Palin for her court case vs NYT?  I know who you are cheering for, but as always Jim, you are Most Wrong

Jeez, what a dick.

[facilitatorn]

Hannity is a shrill tiny dick. There are a lot of questions as to why he is let on the air and not kept in a solitary box somewhere far out of view and earshot of decent people.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Must read for the Stalinists here:

https://theweek.com/articles/445434/how-liberalism-became-intolerant-dogma

The enlightened here can skip it.

Both of us.

[facilitatorn]

The intolerantly intolerant really want to be tolerated. Boo hoo.

[Hamilton Samuels]

The intolerantly intolerant really want to be tolerated. Boo hoo.

Some day you'll post something sensible.

Stalinist.

[josh]

G.O.P. Declares Jan. 6 Attack 'Legitimate Political Discourse'

NYT reporting, but really just GOP being nuts.

[LarryBnDC]

G.O.P. Declares Jan. 6 Attack 'Legitimate Political Discourse'

NYT reporting, but really just GOP being nuts.

An authoritarian tactic. Create an alternate plane of reality a la Orwell.

[LarryBnDC]

An interesting read from an interesting source...

https://mississippitoday.org/2022/02/02/mississippi-only-critical-race-theory/