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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Espnthree]

I didn't know that Napoleon (a) posted on the internet or (b) reported poll numbers that indicate a majority seems to support charging Trump with a crime.

Ah, but Napoleon sent in a mail vote charging Stephen Colbert with a crime.

[Hairy Lime]

In spite of the fact that you are mainly shitposting, and generally not worth the keystrokes, I would like to reply to:

Oh I have plenty of suggestions starting with scrapping the futile policies of recent history.
We could also focus on the importance of the modern day nuclear family, two loving parents regardless of differing skin colors, differing religions, while accepting those who are of the same sex....

You just devoted several posts to the damaging effects of fatherless homes on children.  But now you are on board with "two loving parents...accepting those who are of the same sex."  So are you saying the key to solving our social problems is having fathers in homes, or in having two parents in homes?  These are not the same thing.  You are okay with two moms and no father?

If this what you want to argue about then you are a part of the problem.
Fatherless homes leaves one parent.
My modern nuclear family means two parents, regardless of sex, religion, skin colors.
Two moms or two dads.
The key word TWO.
Hope this clears it up for you.

I guess.  So all your posting about "fatherless" homes was really about single parent homes. 

You seem to catch on slowly.

So I assume you favor initiatives to promote teen contraception, to reduce a major cause of single parenthood.

Yes. It was something I practiced when I was a teen and my kids did too.

   And of course you support LGBT parent couples and policy that protects their rights to marry and be free from discrimination and form stable households. 

Always have.

And free or reduced cost counseling for domestic abuse, marital estrangement, abandonment, etc.  Awesome.  You are really evolving.

Reread that part about you catching on slowly.

Hmm.   But wouldn't that last one, about free or reduced cost counseling, require, erm, um, public policies (you know, that stuff legislators do) and the levying of (gulp) taxes to implement them?   You may not have noticed this, but large secular societies like ours, when everyone works together to solve a societal problem, it's called politics.  We pool resources through a thing called government, which we elect.  And if experts are called in to, you know, do stuff like counseling, they need to be paid.  And payment, if the clients have no money, comes from.... what is the word....rhymes with "facts is" or saxes...

So, do it.
No oneI know is against reducing domestic abuse which occurs between partners or married couples.
What that has to do with the cause of one parent homes must be known only to you.

But domestic violence against, say, girlfriends are of a different magnitude. Or do you reject your party deceisin to maintain the boyfriend loophole in the coming gun bill?

Interesting that you avoid the devil(details).
The Boyfriend designation relies on different factors

The gun prohibition, which is in federal law, does not apply to boyfriends who are, or were, in mere dating or more casual relationships.

But it does apply to boyfriends who have a child in common with the domestic violence victim; live or lived with the victim; or who are similarly situated to a spouse.

I am well aware of what the boyfriend loophole is. That daters on a casual basis who commit domestic violence are not covered is the point. You do not support protection for victims of abuse who are not married partnered or a parent.

[Hairy Lime]

I am guessing Josh and Napoleon have a lot in common.

I didn't know that Napoleon (a) posted on the internet or (b) reported poll numbers that indicate a majority seems to support charging Trump with a crime.

For Red, polls that support him are conclusive, those against him are ignored. That is why he or an earlier iteration of him stopped.talking about the ACA poll numbers. He feel the same way about elections.

[kidcarter8]

"My dear mother...."



Good Lord, save us all.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/backlash-ensues-president-biden-suggests-inflation-chance-make-fundamental-turn-clean-energy


My dear mother used to have an expression out of everything lousy, something good will happen if you look hard enough for it. We have a chance to make a fundamental turn toward renewable energy, electric vehicles, and not just electric vehicles but across the board, Biden told the crowd of reporters.

[Espnthree]

In spite of the fact that you are mainly shitposting, and generally not worth the keystrokes, I would like to reply to:

Oh I have plenty of suggestions starting with scrapping the futile policies of recent history.
We could also focus on the importance of the modern day nuclear family, two loving parents regardless of differing skin colors, differing religions, while accepting those who are of the same sex....

You just devoted several posts to the damaging effects of fatherless homes on children.  But now you are on board with "two loving parents...accepting those who are of the same sex."  So are you saying the key to solving our social problems is having fathers in homes, or in having two parents in homes?  These are not the same thing.  You are okay with two moms and no father?

If this what you want to argue about then you are a part of the problem.
Fatherless homes leaves one parent.
My modern nuclear family means two parents, regardless of sex, religion, skin colors.
Two moms or two dads.
The key word TWO.
Hope this clears it up for you.

I guess.  So all your posting about "fatherless" homes was really about single parent homes. 

You seem to catch on slowly.

So I assume you favor initiatives to promote teen contraception, to reduce a major cause of single parenthood.

Yes. It was something I practiced when I was a teen and my kids did too.

   And of course you support LGBT parent couples and policy that protects their rights to marry and be free from discrimination and form stable households. 

Always have.

And free or reduced cost counseling for domestic abuse, marital estrangement, abandonment, etc.  Awesome.  You are really evolving.

Reread that part about you catching on slowly.

Hmm.   But wouldn't that last one, about free or reduced cost counseling, require, erm, um, public policies (you know, that stuff legislators do) and the levying of (gulp) taxes to implement them?   You may not have noticed this, but large secular societies like ours, when everyone works together to solve a societal problem, it's called politics.  We pool resources through a thing called government, which we elect.  And if experts are called in to, you know, do stuff like counseling, they need to be paid.  And payment, if the clients have no money, comes from.... what is the word....rhymes with "facts is" or saxes...

So, do it.
No oneI know is against reducing domestic abuse which occurs between partners or married couples.
What that has to do with the cause of one parent homes must be known only to you.

But domestic violence against, say, girlfriends are of a different magnitude. Or do you reject your party deceisin to maintain the boyfriend loophole in the coming gun bill?

Interesting that you avoid the devil(details).
The Boyfriend designation relies on different factors

The gun prohibition, which is in federal law, does not apply to boyfriends who are, or were, in mere dating or more casual relationships.

But it does apply to boyfriends who have a child in common with the domestic violence victim; live or lived with the victim; or who are similarly situated to a spouse.

I am well aware of what the boyfriend loophole is. That daters on a casual basis who commit domestic violence are not covered is the point. You do not support protection for victims of abuse who are not married partnered or a parent.

I do not?
Where did you come up with that assumption?
The legal question the Senate Committee is struggling with concerns the rights of the BOYFRIEND.
It is so complicated Cori Bush remains publicly noncommitted.
I certainly do not have an opinion

[facilitatorn]

"My dear mother...."



Good Lord, save us all.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/backlash-ensues-president-biden-suggests-inflation-chance-make-fundamental-turn-clean-energy


My dear mother used to have an expression out of everything lousy, something good will happen if you look hard enough for it. We have a chance to make a fundamental turn toward renewable energy, electric vehicles, and not just electric vehicles but across the board, Biden told the crowd of reporters.

Burn coal in your grate and crank your Model A, gramps. And listen to Father Coughlin on your phonograph.

[facilitatorn]

I certainly do not have an opinion

Granted, it is cherry-picking.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.emptywheel.net/2022/06/20/maybe-merrick-garland-already-made-some-of-the-decisions-everyone-thinks-are-pending/

[kiidcarter8]

Basketball star Diaries Lee killed in New York

Another victim of black on black inner city crime.

So sad.  Just have to stay out of places these days.

[kiidcarter8]

Then this:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34121440/houston-baptist-men-basketball-star-darius-lee-killed-8-other-shot-harlem-gathering


He is wrong to not be more trusting of his safety in Buffalo.   Right?     Right?

Hmm..

[kiidcarter8]

Said another way -

Is someone CERTAINLY to be shot because this guy has guns for protection?

[facilitatorn]

If you read the second amendment a certain way, certain white men make money. Those men have bought the GOP. As long as the GOP has power blood will be spilt and dollars will flow to those same white pockets.

The onus is on those who have historically supported the GOP to say enough is enough.

[luee]

---The Texas Republican Party just voted 'overwhelmingly' to reject the legitimacy of Biden's 2020 election win and is trying to stir up fear about 'possible fraud' in the upcoming midterms---
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-gop-votes-to-reject-validity-of-biden-2020-election-2022-6

Crazier and crazier, Trump needs a jail sentence to insure closure.

[kiidcarter8]

Deejay joins Fac as forum lawbreakers whose rhetoric needs to be closely watched.

[Holly Martins]

Call me overly laid back, but I tend to take "[name] should be shot" comments on a political forum as venting, not planning.  Should also note DeeJ was suggesting lawful execution, not assassination.

Constructing a gibbet for the VP on the Capitol lawn, however...