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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #12496 on: April 11, 2019, 11:51:50 PM »

Harvard Law professor says Aussie Assange has broken no laws, committed no crimes...that all he did was publish leaks....something US newspapers do all the time.

Pammy says UK is US' bitch.

Some say Aussie Assange will be off to the US' chamber of death for extermination.
Charming.

That'll go over like a lead balloon downunder.
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« Reply #12497 on: April 12, 2019, 12:12:11 AM »

So, Chelsea Manning was tossed back in prison for refusing to talk to the Grand Jury.
What happened to the 5th Amendment?
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« Reply #12499 on: April 12, 2019, 01:15:18 AM »

So, Chelsea Manning was tossed back in prison for refusing to talk to the Grand Jury.
What happened to the 5th Amendment?

Your grasp of how the 5th Amendment works is as firm as your grasp on the rest of how this country works, how science works, and how decent people behave toward one another.

That is to say, it is totally lacking, and you cannot recognize how much you do not understand.
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« Reply #12500 on: April 12, 2019, 01:17:06 AM »


Some say...

And there is a clear example of part of the problem.

You hear "some say" and you are off to the races. There are no charges that would land Assange with a life sentence, let along the death penalty.
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« Reply #12501 on: April 12, 2019, 05:22:35 AM »

I’ve never seen a puppet burn up an asset so fast as trump wasted Barr. I’ll have read quite a bit more than team treason wants of Mr. Mueller’s report, as will have many of you by the time my birthday rolls around in May.

Mnuchin and Mulvaney can face criminal charges for withholding requested tax returns from congress. Mnuchin knows this and has come out the gate ducking and weaving. Steve’s got a lot more to lose than Mick and might also be getting better advice.

And the administration fails for another day of this decaying presidency to do anything at all helpful to the American People.

More harm, more hate, more noise, but no good comes of it. It’s what being a republican is. It is what republicans have to sell.
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« Reply #12502 on: April 12, 2019, 05:54:52 AM »


Some say...

And there is a clear example of part of the problem.

You hear "some say" and you are off to the races. There are no charges that would land Assange with a life sentence, let along the death penalty.

Not what we're hearing.
All we're hearing is 'death penalty'....and some sealed indictment or something.

If the death penalty weren't on the table my govt wouldn't be talking about it.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/govt-says-opposes-death-penalty-assange

A bid to extradite Julian Assange from the UK to the US is between those two countries but Australia opposes the death penalty, the government says.

The Australian government says it's committed to the principle of not exposing its citizens to the death penalty as the US moves in on Julian Assange.
Australian consular officials will visit the WikiLeaks founder in a London jail on Friday after he was arrested at the Ecuadorian embassy and promptly convicted of skipping bail.

Supporters fear Assange could face the death penalty if the US succeeds in an extradition bid, but Foreign Minister Marise Payne says Australia remains "completely opposed" to capital punishment.


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It would make absolutely no difference to the US what Australia opposes or doesn't oppose.
It didn't matter to Indonesia and it wouldn't matter to America.

Without an absolute guarantee in writing from the President of the USA and Congress that Assange would not be killed in a US death chamber...Britain should not allow him to be extradited to America.

If Britain does extradite him and he gets put to death there'll be drama for Britain.
It'll lose Australia, for sure and certain...there'll be no stopping a republic then.


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #12503 on: April 12, 2019, 06:07:25 AM »

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/04/julian-assange-must-not-be-extradited-to-the-usa/

Julian Assange must not be extradited to the USA

Following the announcement of Julian Assange’s arrest, and request for extradition to the United States, Massimo Moratti, Amnesty International’s Deputy Director for Research in Europe, said:

“Amnesty International calls on the UK to refuse to extradite or send in any other manner Julian Assange to the USA where there is a very real risk that he could face human rights violations, including detention conditions that would violate the absolute prohibition of torture and other ill-treatment and an unfair trial followed by possible execution, due to his work with Wikileaks.


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Indeed.
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« Reply #12504 on: April 12, 2019, 06:24:38 AM »

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/comment-julian-assange-warned-of-this-very-scenario-for-years-and-now-its-coming-to-pass/ar-BBVRzr9?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

WikiLeaks attracted global attention with the publication in 2010 of a mass of confidential US government documents including diplomatic cables and damning video of US forces killing civilians and journalists in a mistaken attack in Iraq.

From that moment, a computer geek instantly became an international talking point, supported by the stars, seen by many as a truth warrior.

I remember the first appearance at the Westminster Magistrates Court back in 2010.
Assange was accompanied by several hundred supporters, including the rich and famous.

There was a collective sense of outrage amongst his true believers that he was being victimised, punished for telling the truth.


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Now he's aged well beyond his years, ..and gone somewhat, well, seemingly not quite so normal in the head...7 years in a dark room with only a computer and a cat.
Faeces on walls or something.
Certainly not worth doing what he did.
He should've put his computer/other skills to better use...IMO.
He didn't make any good difference to anything...all he did was ruin his life...look what's happened, and will be happening to him now.

Britain should send him home to Australia...US should improve its security of classified files so they can't be stolen/leaked, forget about him and write the whole thing off to "poor security and bad luck".

Maybe Trump could pardon him.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #12505 on: April 12, 2019, 07:22:31 AM »

So, Chelsea Manning was tossed back in prison for refusing to talk to the Grand Jury.
What happened to the 5th Amendment?

Your grasp of how the 5th Amendment works is as firm as your grasp on the rest of how this country works, how science works, and how decent people behave toward one another.

That is to say, it is totally lacking, and you cannot recognize how much you do not understand.

And here YOU have shown your vast knowledge of it

Not
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #12508 on: April 12, 2019, 08:26:48 AM »

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« Reply #12509 on: April 12, 2019, 09:48:47 AM »

https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1115686970854916096

So why did your boy take a bad situation and make it worse? Those photos from 2014 are of unaccompanied kids, not kids taken from their families.
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