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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35700 on: May 30, 2020, 04:11:44 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35701 on: May 30, 2020, 04:21:43 PM »
Some of President Trump's thugs:
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35702 on: May 30, 2020, 04:40:38 PM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on May 30, 2020, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Yankguy1 on May 30, 2020, 02:05:15 PM
I think you all misread what Red originally wrote, which I read to say that the cop should have been charged with second-degree murder as it might be hard to up the charge later. I think this is right.
They started with a lesser charge to get him to jail  and confident they could prove that case in court beyond a reasonable doubt. Getting to that degree of confidence on second degree is going to take more time.

They should’ve all been arrested the day they were fired.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35703 on: May 30, 2020, 04:46:55 PM »
No argument from me.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35704 on: May 30, 2020, 04:51:38 PM »
Quote from: bodiddley on May 30, 2020, 02:46:17 PM
Seems Kellie Chauvin has reached out to the Floyd family, and filed for divorce.
Speculation whether it's to get away from a controlling brute or to shield her assets.

I need to get to Laos some time.

Either way it’s the smart move.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35705 on: May 30, 2020, 05:15:53 PM »
And in good news:

http://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/politics/cdc-coronavirus-briefings-resume/index.html

I'd rather it weren't called for, but the fact that Trump had muted their voice is just another indictment of his so-called leadership.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35706 on: May 30, 2020, 05:33:15 PM »
Quote from: Yankguy1 on May 30, 2020, 02:05:15 PM
I think you all misread what Red originally wrote, which I read to say that the cop should have been charged with second-degree murder as it might be hard to up the charge later. I think this is right.
While Red struggles with expressing himself in normal English, I disagree with your reading.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35707 on: May 30, 2020, 05:46:52 PM »
Out of touch.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/politics/trump-secret-service-floyd-white-house-protests/index.html

Trump slams White House protesters as 'just there to cause trouble' as DC mayor defends city
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35708 on: May 30, 2020, 06:00:00 PM »
Quote from: Hairy Lime on May 30, 2020, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: Yankguy1 on May 30, 2020, 02:05:15 PM
I think you all misread what Red originally wrote, which I read to say that the cop should have been charged with second-degree murder as it might be hard to up the charge later. I think this is right.
While Red struggles with expressing himself in normal English, I disagree with your reading.

Gonna go with Yank and Red here. Paul Butler has good analysis of reasoning and implications of the various charges.

Swift justice & getting it to stick as murder are rightly higher priorities that hitting him with the maximum charge.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35709 on: May 30, 2020, 07:08:19 PM »
Charge them on the evidence in hand and charge all three at the same time.

As for the degree of participation?

Big fucking deal.

Like the cops alway say, “Tell it to the judge.”

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« Reply #35710 on: May 30, 2020, 07:09:35 PM »
Quote from: LarryBnDC on May 30, 2020, 07:08:19 PM
Charge them on the evidence in hand and charge all three at the same time.

As for the degree of participation?

Big fucking deal.

Like the cops alway say, “Tell it to the judge.”
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35711 on: May 30, 2020, 07:14:09 PM »
Along with the other cops there is someone else the law should be looking at.

http://www.vox.com/identities/2020/5/30/21275588/trump-policing-policies-doj-george-floyd-protests

Uncharged accessory to the murder of George Floyd and instigator of the chaos and violence that has followed.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35712 on: May 30, 2020, 07:50:48 PM »
Quote from: josh on May 30, 2020, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: barton on May 30, 2020, 09:24:55 AM
Quote from: Hairy Lime on May 29, 2020, 10:28:00 PM
Our legal expert shows his knowledge. Or lack of it.

Upped the charge from second to third degree murder did they? Do you ever have a fucking clue?

He seems to have confused the burn trauma unit with the courthouse.   

Anyway,  sure looks like a "depraved heart" criterion is met, for M3.

https://blog.simplejustice.us/2020/05/30/chauvin-charged-but-is-it-legally-sufficient/?fbclid=IwAR0-jv6i8Tr14CtqqSdXvHeKa7jF0oQoq_DnbZ2NzI6ubEiIDaq7LcoD6I4

Yes,  it's not straightforward, but I'm leaning towards those last three minutes rising to M3.  I know,  it depends on less ambiguous findings from the ME.  To use the writer's analogy,  even if Chauvin had fired a bullet into a crowd and it had struck no one, the fear it caused may have been a contributing factor in the crowd member who had a heart attack.   IOW Floyd may have been headed for a heart attack,  but Chauvin's brutality changed the destination from ICU to morgue.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35713 on: May 30, 2020, 07:57:42 PM »
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« Reply #35714 on: May 30, 2020, 08:02:58 PM »
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