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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20715 on: September 23, 2019, 05:25:01 PM »

The statute covers members of the Intelligence Committee, not the President.

REDSTATEWARD's spin arrived from the WSJ, and unsurprisingly, its wrong.
Glad to see you have upgraded your sources. Now broaden them  beyond the WSJ opinion pages.
But, as I said, the statute is a moot issue.

If the whistleblower is a member of the intelligence community, the statute is not moot.  As the complaint was reviewed by the intelligence community's inspector general, that would seem to be the case.  Therefore, the statute applies.  The fact that the subject of the complaint is the President (in this case, "president") does not make it moot.  All the more, this is precisely the kind of situation the Community Whistleblower Protection Act was meant to address.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20716 on: September 23, 2019, 05:34:09 PM »

Again...get your news from something other than FOX.

What did I get from Fox?

It is what you are not getting from FOX.  Basic information on the issue that keeps you from asking uninformed questions.

I watch them all, as I have stated here many times

Big week in NY - but you all want to focus on frivolous bits of anti-Trump.

Sad,

Not to be Captain Obvious or anything, but this is

a) the Trump forum

b) presidential abuse of power and lawbreaking is not "frivolous" as topics go.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20717 on: September 23, 2019, 05:37:44 PM »

Again...get your news from something other than FOX.

What did I get from Fox?

It is what you are not getting from FOX.  Basic information on the issue that keeps you from asking uninformed questions.

I watch them all, as I have stated here many times

Big week in NY - but you all want to focus on frivolous bits of anti-Trump.

Sad,

Frivolous?
Dude...

Rudy said it and so did Trump. Quid pro quo.

They never told the Ukrainian prez to do something to get the funding released they just said, “it would be a shame if anything happened to that dough, you know what I mean? Tell you what, you let me know what’s going on with that prosecutor and I’ll make sure you have no problems, understand? Good. Say hello to your family for me.”
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20718 on: September 23, 2019, 05:39:57 PM »

Get your popcorn ready because the show is getting ready to start.

Nancy Pelosi be like Dan Ackroyd in this scene;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoUnvVRYzzA
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20719 on: September 23, 2019, 05:53:08 PM »


There is a statute that defines whether or not a complaint goes to Congress, and the requirements of that statute are met here.
The statute covers members of the Intelligence Committee, not the President.
The statute has no bearing on the real issue, did Trump abuse his presidential powers?
He tweets(again) it is all a hoax pushed by the fake news and the democrats!
Adam Schiff cries (again) Impeachable! 
Point is the matter is in the hands of Congress and another political kerfuffle is on.
One additional addition to the “soup” this time is the presence of Joe Biden in the mix.
The statute only requires that the whistleblower be a member of the intelligence community. There is no restriction on the subject of the urgent concern in 50 USC 3033 (k)(5)(A).  None.

Once the IG found the complaint credible, turning it over to the congressional intelligence committees is mandatory. There are no exceptions to 50 USC 3033 (k)(5)(C).
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20721 on: September 23, 2019, 06:29:05 PM »


There is a statute that defines whether or not a complaint goes to Congress, and the requirements of that statute are met here.
The statute covers members of the Intelligence Committee, not the President.
The statute has no bearing on the real issue, did Trump abuse his presidential powers?
He tweets(again) it is all a hoax pushed by the fake news and the democrats!
Adam Schiff cries (again) Impeachable! 
Point is the matter is in the hands of Congress and another political kerfuffle is on.
One additional addition to the “soup” this time is the presence of Joe Biden in the mix.
The statute only requires that the whistleblower be a member of the intelligence community. There is no restriction on the subject of the urgent concern in 50 USC 3033 (k)(5)(A).  None.

Once the IG found the complaint credible, turning it over to the congressional intelligence committees is mandatory. There are no exceptions to 50 USC 3033 (k)(5)(C).
Except, of course, The DNI has the final say, according to the statute.
But keep beating a dead horse if it pleases you.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20722 on: September 23, 2019, 06:32:05 PM »


POLITICO.COM
Trump claims Nobel Peace Prize is rigged against him

Trump asserted that “I would get a Nobel Prize for a lot of things, if they give it out fairly, which they don't.”
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20723 on: September 23, 2019, 06:37:52 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20724 on: September 23, 2019, 07:04:48 PM »

Funny stuff

lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-federal-prosecutors-call-for-giuliani-to-be-disbarred-possibly-indicted/?fbclid=IwAR2zD5bPSIkkIfDBedrdHOuVuCpyQZ7oqDYBMB0-heN5KAqlnjRD6VjEpKA
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20725 on: September 23, 2019, 07:14:27 PM »


POLITICO.COM
Trump claims Nobel Peace Prize is rigged against him

Trump asserted that “I would get a Nobel Prize for a lot of things, if they give it out fairly, which they don't.”

He could be onto something there.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20726 on: September 23, 2019, 07:17:52 PM »

Funny stuff

lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-federal-prosecutors-call-for-giuliani-to-be-disbarred-possibly-indicted/?fbclid=IwAR2zD5bPSIkkIfDBedrdHOuVuCpyQZ7oqDYBMB0-heN5KAqlnjRD6VjEpKA

Ha.

Ha.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20727 on: September 23, 2019, 07:18:25 PM »


POLITICO.COM
Trump claims Nobel Peace Prize is rigged against him

Trump asserted that “I would get a Nobel Prize for a lot of things, if they give it out fairly, which they don't.”

He could be on something there.

FIFY
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20728 on: September 23, 2019, 07:21:19 PM »


There is a statute that defines whether or not a complaint goes to Congress, and the requirements of that statute are met here.
The statute covers members of the Intelligence Committee, not the President.
The statute has no bearing on the real issue, did Trump abuse his presidential powers?
He tweets(again) it is all a hoax pushed by the fake news and the democrats!
Adam Schiff cries (again) Impeachable! 
Point is the matter is in the hands of Congress and another political kerfuffle is on.
One additional addition to the “soup” this time is the presence of Joe Biden in the mix.
The statute only requires that the whistleblower be a member of the intelligence community. There is no restriction on the subject of the urgent concern in 50 USC 3033 (k)(5)(A).  None.

Once the IG found the complaint credible, turning it over to the congressional intelligence committees is mandatory. There are no exceptions to 50 USC 3033 (k)(5)(C).
Except, of course, The DNI has the final say, according to the statute.
But keep beating a dead horse if it pleases you.
No he does not. Allowing for my crappy thumb typing 50 USC 3033 (k) (5) (C) states:

"Upon receipt of a transmittal from the Inspector General under subparagraph (B) the Director shall, within 7 calendar days of such receipt, forward such transmittal to the congressional intelligence committees, together with any comments the Director considers appropriate."

The DNI does not have final say. He has no say at all on the transmittal, he can only make.additional comments. Shall... forward the transmittal. Shall.

I eagerly await your lol and refusal to admit that the statute says what it plainly says.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #20729 on: September 23, 2019, 07:26:23 PM »


POLITICO.COM
Trump claims Nobel Peace Prize is rigged against him

Trump asserted that “I would get a Nobel Prize for a lot of things, if they give it out fairly, which they don't.”

He could be onto something there.
Which Nobel would you award him?
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