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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

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NOTHING (burger) in transcript stating there will be aid withheld from Ukraine.

- Again - I am sorry - getting it from Fox.

And again you have been steered wrong by them.

A) its not a transcript but a summary.
B) Zelenky brings up military aid, and Trump responds "I want you to do us a favor though..."  You could argue that isn't evidence of the reason that aid was being withheld, but it isn't "nothing."

Also needs be said, that the "favor" Trump is asking for is not only an "investigation" of Biden, but the clearing of Russia on the DNC server break-in.

The company concluded that the two groups compromised the same systems within the DNC network, but they “identified no collaboration between the two actors, or even an awareness of one by the other.” Despite this, CrowdStrike is confident that they were both working “for the benefit of the government of the Russian Federation and are believed to be closely linked to the Russian government’s powerful and highly capable intelligence services.”

CrowdStrike’s findings were later corroborated by several other independent cybersecurity firms. Yet Trump has repeatedly sought to cast doubt on the conclusions of these firms, pushing an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that the DNC had hid one of its servers from the FBI, a server that reportedly has information about who was actually responsible for the hack.

In July 2018, following his Helsinki meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump said, “You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server. Why didn’t they take the server? Where is the server, I want to know, and what is the server saying?”

But according to a report from The Daily Beast at the time, “no machines are actually missing”— the DNC and CrowdStrike handed over a copy of all of the DNC images back at the time of the breach.

Trump’s call with Zelensky suggests that he believes, despite all evidence to the contrary, that someone in Ukraine is in possession of the ‘missing’ server that could exonerate Russia.

https://fortune.com/2019/09/25/what-is-crowdstrike-trump-ukraine-call-transcript-memo/

So why is Trump asking Ukraine to exonerate Russia on the DNC break-in and (very possibly) holding up their aid in order to get them to do it?

Yeah, really sounding like a nothing-burger here...

[REDSTATEWARD]

The House Judiciary Committee is already conducting an Impeachment Inquiry.
So what, exactly, was the purpose of Pelosi’s announcement today to do the same?
How can she get away with merely de­clar­ing some­thing “of­fi­cial” with­out hon­or­ing the proper pro­ce­dure and make­ing the House Members ­de­clare them­selves on the record ?

Have a.sardine, sealion.

Can you answer?

Merrick Garland wasn't sufficient amswer?  When people set precedents, this is what happens.

Ah,yes.
Alas.
Poor Merrick.
We hardly knew ye.

[barton]

Reading through the transcript....

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uyWKAGgHIqDEORgjOyo0uq7JOXzhxOQf/view

....it's interesting, bordering on the comical, how much buttering up of Trump Zelenski does, including lavish praise that Trump was a key inspiration for his own election campaign and how when he was visiting the U.S. he stayed at the Trump hotel.  And how much better Trump's plane is, LOL.

Zelenski:  After that, it might be a very good idea for
you to travel to Ukraine. We can either take my plane and go to
Ukraine or we can take your plane, which is probably much better
than mine.

Also the way Trump keeps saying he's going to get Giulani over there, and Giulani is his best guy to handle all this, which is basically saying this ex-Mayor who is not a federal government employee of any kind is best suited for various tasks that would normally fall to people in the State Dept.  It's downright creepy and weird.

[Yankguy1]

Red prefers beer-drinkin', accused of sexual-assaultin' Justices.

[Yankguy1]

I'm looking for Giuliani to start wearing a bathrobe and slippers and wandering around Greenwich Village.

[kiidcarter8]

Red prefers beer-drinkin', accused of sexual-assaultin' Justices.

I dont trust any bloke who has never had a beer

[LarryBnDC]

Yep.  Employed, too.  Sort of like Al Sharpton.

This is a stupid take, even for you.

[barton]

Red prefers beer-drinkin', accused of sexual-assaultin' Justices.

I dont trust any bloke who has never had a beer

  I’ve never had a drink of alcohol in my life which I’m very happy about and very proud of, but I’ve never had a drink of alcohol in my life.     - Trump, in CNBC interview.

“I don’t drink beer,” Trump told reporters Tuesday. “I’ve never had a beer. And I’m not saying good or bad, some people like it. I just choose not to do that for a lot of reasons.”

A day earlier, Trump told reporters that his abstinence from alcohol was “one of my only good traits.”      - 10-2-2018, reported in various newspapers.


<snicker>

[barton]

I'm looking for Giuliani to start wearing a bathrobe and slippers and wandering around Greenwich Village.

[Yankguy1]

[kiidcarter8]

One, named Laraby, says in a new book about Trump's rise, The Method To The Madness, that Trump would come into the New York nightspot Spy with modelling agent John Casablancas and drink beers - "usually Miller Lite or Bud Lite" - over the course of an evening. "He drank his beer out of the bottle," Laraby says in an extract published by Vice. "He would nurse his beer. Even if they were there for hours, he would have three beers at the most."




https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a28289957/donald-trump-new-york-bartenders-say-not-teetotal/

Isnt it your usual take that Trump lies?

[Yankguy1]

One, named Laraby, says in a new book about Trump's rise, The Method To The Madness, that Trump would come into the New York nightspot Spy with modelling agent John Casablancas and drink beers - "usually Miller Lite or Bud Lite" - over the course of an evening. "He drank his beer out of the bottle," Laraby says in an extract published by Vice. "He would nurse his beer. Even if they were there for hours, he would have three beers at the most."




https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a28289957/donald-trump-new-york-bartenders-say-not-teetotal/

Isnt it your usual take that Trump lies?

So either Trump is lying about drinking, and perversely you trust him.  Or he's telling the truth, and perversely you don't.   

[barton]

Beat me to it. 

Well, either way, KidC just exposed a Trump lie, so perhaps the petals can begin to fall.


Gigante-ic photo!  Thanks.

[josh]

Asking Ukraine to investigate Biden to aid his campaign is enough.

Nope

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/ukraine-transcript-donald-trump-zelensky-biden/index.html

Yup.

All by itself, lie to yourself though you may.

[josh]

One, named Laraby, says in a new book about Trump's rise, The Method To The Madness, that Trump would come into the New York nightspot Spy with modelling agent John Casablancas and drink beers - "usually Miller Lite or Bud Lite" - over the course of an evening. "He drank his beer out of the bottle," Laraby says in an extract published by Vice. "He would nurse his beer. Even if they were there for hours, he would have three beers at the most."




https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a28289957/donald-trump-new-york-bartenders-say-not-teetotal/

Isnt it your usual take that Trump lies?

More to the point, Kid, isn't your usual point that he doesn't?!

I accept that he drank (or drinks) and lies about it.

What does that tell us about him? What does it tell you about him?