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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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« Reply #25575 on: December 28, 2019, 06:10:33 PM »

Bambi, you do no work at all except to misinform yourself. I think you are nearly the least qualified person to weigh in on the topic. Since your cowardice and ignorance will keep you where you are, I’m confident most immigrants we get will be solid upgrades over Red and Kid, who are moldy and glitchy and well past their sell by dates.
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« Reply #25576 on: December 28, 2019, 07:22:14 PM »

If we simply abolish golf courses and turn the land into low income housing, we’d be able to house most of our homeless without too much trouble.

And when the former golf courses are full?

Better idea...stop all immigration and lose 100m population [natural attrition].
America was a better place when the population was only 230m?

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Several witnesses have today testified that the U.S. population size should stabilize at the current number of about 230 million.


Better for whom and in what way?

And yes, if the planet had a couple billion people fewer, that would not be a bad thing. But our population is not growing primarily from births.
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« Reply #25577 on: December 28, 2019, 07:32:21 PM »

Bambi, you do no work at all except to misinform yourself. I think you are nearly the least qualified person to weigh in on the topic. Since your cowardice and ignorance will keep you where you are, I’m confident most immigrants we get will be solid upgrades over Red and Kid, who are moldy and glitchy and well past their sell by dates.

Send me some white feathers, I'll make artwork out of them.

Whose fault is it that the parents are now in immigration detention, …..[they might meet the Black Aussie gal who was tossed in detention prison too even though she has a valid visa...ICE seemingly playing "judge, jury and 'executioner'"].....,and the kids are now alone at home?
Answer; the parents' fault for entering the country illegally/working illegally.

Maybe ICE thinks Australia is an African state full of terrorists....that could be it, why they grabbed the African-Australian girl.
It's time the Australian govt demanded answers as to what's going on.
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« Reply #25578 on: December 28, 2019, 08:04:01 PM »

Bambi, you do no work at all except to misinform yourself. I think you are nearly the least qualified person to weigh in on the topic. Since your cowardice and ignorance will keep you where you are, I’m confident most immigrants we get will be solid upgrades over Red and Kid, who are moldy and glitchy and well past their sell by dates.

Send me some white feathers, I'll make artwork out of them.

Whose fault is it that the parents are now in immigration detention

We've "discussed" that with you before. It's a concept you struggle with, repeatedly.

The people who put them in detention are responsible for putting them in detention. They are the ones following illegal orders.

The people who gave them those illegal orders are responsible for the parents' being in the concentration camps. The buck stops with the criminal president in the White House, who repeatedly has told his administration officials to ride roughshod over the Constitution and the people it protects, as well as other laws and treaties.

The people who disrupted the governments of the countries these families fled are responsible for the parents' being in the camps. They would not have fled for their own or their children's lives, but for great duress.

And yes, the parents are responsible for their decisions, for trusting the United States to honor its own laws.

The federal government is responsible for allowing thousands of detained children to have been sexually molested or worse. It is responsible for the failure to administer vaccines as any decent human beings would have. It is responsible for the lack of oversight such that children are dying under their watch or their hired guns' watch.
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« Reply #25579 on: December 28, 2019, 08:11:21 PM »

If we simply abolish golf courses and turn the land into low income housing, we’d be able to house most of our homeless without too much trouble.

And when the former golf courses are full?

Better idea...stop all immigration and lose 100m population [natural attrition].
America was a better place when the population was only 230m?

1982
Several witnesses have today testified that the U.S. population size should stabilize at the current number of about 230 million.


Better for whom and in what way?

And yes, if the planet had a couple billion people fewer, that would not be a bad thing. But our population is not growing primarily from births.

Better overall. Existing roads, hospitals, schools, transport would be adequate.
As people kept dying they wouldn't be replaced...society would adjust.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25580 on: December 28, 2019, 08:17:28 PM »



The cause of high prices in the real estate market, whether buying or renting, is popularity of the area.
Wow!  What would we do without ‘experts’ like Josh?
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« Reply #25581 on: December 28, 2019, 08:26:18 PM »

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/zac-efrons-lifeordeath-flight-to-australia-after-falling-ill-in-png/news-story/2b3d6f107db04f13fea176e5355bfce2

Zac Efron’s life-or-death flight to Australia after falling ill in PNG

Hollywood A-lister Zac Efron was flown to Australia after suffering an extraordinary medical emergency while in Papua New Guinea, where he was filming his new TV documentary series Killing Zac Efron, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.

The 32-year-old High School Musical star turned reality TV adventurer was transported from PNG to Australia by a local medevac crew last week after he fell ill to what is believed to be a form of ­typhoid or similar bacterial ­infection.

Sources say the Hollywood A-lister was initially flown to Brisbane Airport before being rushed to the private St Andrews War Memorial Hospital in Spring Hill where he was treated for several days.

Styled as a type of Man v Wild adventure series, the show sees The Greatest Showman star venturing “deep into the jungles of a remote, dangerous island to carve his own name in expedition history”.


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Good way to get yourself killed!
Bad germs live in those jungles of PNG, deadly bacteria, as troops found out in WW2.
Hopefully he won't go back there...just run the series that's been filmed so far.
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« Reply #25582 on: December 28, 2019, 08:28:05 PM »

Do you ever react with sympathy?
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« Reply #25583 on: December 28, 2019, 08:36:11 PM »

Do you ever react with sympathy?

Yes.

Tricky, is 'sympathy'.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/us/mississippi-ice-raids-poultry-plants.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Some believe that the undocumented workers had it coming. “If you’re somewhere you ain’t supposed to be, they’re going to come get you,” said a worker named Jamaal, who declined to give his full name because Koch Foods had not authorized him to speak. “That’s only right.”

But there was also Shelonda Davis, 35, a 17-year veteran of the plant. She has seen many workers — of all backgrounds — come and go. But she was horrified that so many of her Hispanic colleagues were rounded up. Some of them, she said, wanted to work so badly that they tried to return the next day.

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« Reply #25584 on: December 28, 2019, 08:38:19 PM »



The cause of high prices in the real estate market, whether buying or renting, is popularity of the area.
Wow!  What would we do without ‘experts’ like Josh?

Probably continue to believe bullshit like Luee's or thinking that the economy is doing well, as you do.

You do seem pretty impervious to facts, Ward.
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« Reply #25585 on: December 28, 2019, 08:48:00 PM »

Do you ever react with sympathy?

Yes.
Sympathy for whom, though?
The separated children?  of course.
Their parents?  not so much.
Everyone?

Mr Grant?

Then there was Mr. Grant, only two years out of high school and still finding his way in the world. He said it felt good to be earning $11.23 an hour, even if the new job entailed cutting off necks and pulling out guts on a seemingly endless conveyor of carcasses. It was about $4 better, he said, than what he used to earn at a Madison County cookie factory.

But he also called the raids “cruel” and “mean.” There were moments when the necks and guts and ambivalence and guilt all mixed together so that he wondered whether he wanted to stick with the job.

“It’s like I stole it,” he said, “and I really don’t like what I stole.”

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« Reply #25586 on: December 28, 2019, 09:02:06 PM »

Sympathy?
For whom, though?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/us/mississippi-ice-raids-poultry-plants.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
 
The New Cotton Fields

The story of poultry work tracks closely with the 20th-century story of race relations in Mississippi.

“The chicken plant,” Dr. Stuesse quoted a civil rights veteran saying, “replaced the cotton field.”

But as American chicken consumption boomed in the 1980s, manufacturers went in search of “cheaper and more exploitable workers,” Dr. Stuesse wrote, chiefly Latin American immigrants.

At the time, the Koch plant in Morton was owned by a local company, B.C. Rogers Poultry, which organized efforts to recruit Hispanics from the Texas border as early as 1977. Soon, the company was operating a sizable effort it called “The Hispanic Project,” bringing in thousands of workers and housing them in trailers.

But “an eager pool of black labor did indeed exist,” she wrote, noting that a black labor force moved in when a large number of Hispanics were fired from a Carthage chicken plant in the mid-2000s.

And yet much of the outrage over the August raids has come from leaders in Mississippi’s black community. Constance Slaughter-Harvey, a renowned local lawyer and civil rights activist who was the first black woman to receive a law degree from the University of Mississippi, called the raids a “Gestapo action.”

Wesley Odom, 79, president of the Scott County N.A.A.C.P., spoke of the family members separated — the Hispanic mothers and fathers who remain in custody, as well as the moments, on the day of the raids, when some schoolchildren must have wondered whether they would walk into empty homes.

“The blacks were witness to that same thing as slaves,” he said.


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« Reply #25587 on: December 28, 2019, 10:14:24 PM »



The cause of high prices in the real estate market, whether buying or renting, is popularity of the area.
Wow!  What would we do without ‘experts’ like Josh?

Probably continue to believe bullshit like Luee's or thinking that the economy is doing well, as you do.

You do seem pretty impervious to facts, Ward.
LOL
You going to lecture us on supply and demand?
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« Reply #25588 on: December 28, 2019, 10:49:56 PM »



The cause of high prices in the real estate market, whether buying or renting, is popularity of the area.
Wow!  What would we do without ‘experts’ like Josh?

Probably continue to believe bullshit like Luee's or thinking that the economy is doing well, as you do.

You do seem pretty impervious to facts, Ward.
LOL
You going to lecture us on supply and demand?

Sure, since you asked.

The law of supply and demand erroneously asserts that when there is no demand for something, the supply of it will diminish by market forces.

You, Kid, and Bambi demonstrate that while there is no demand for your ongoing heartless support for the Trump administration or Kid's trolling or Bambi's unwillingness to accept science, that nonetheless the supply of each is endless.

Glad to help, Ward.

If you were actually paying attention instead of knee jerk reacting to my having posted (with emphasis on jerk), you would have belittled Luee for prompting the ordinarily unneeded lesson.
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« Reply #25589 on: December 29, 2019, 09:27:04 AM »

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