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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27345 on: February 09, 2020, 07:57:30 PM »

Another day, another GOP cover-up blocked by a judge:
https://www.gregpalast.com/kemp-loses-vote-purge-suit-brought-by-reporter-palast/?fbclid=IwAR0E94SVo0tKXgXGnd4gI4jLXJq16_gAYih3XSX16wJsmw85dDNtGBdiCOM

This one is about the records for how Georgia purged half a million voters.
You may want to read more.
But the film noire pic was laughable.

zzzzzzzzz
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27346 on: February 09, 2020, 08:36:01 PM »



If you are ever interested in more fact-based and objective news sources,  I recommend

apnews.com

Or npr.org

Or https://www.independent.co.uk/us

Or Toronto based Reuters.com. 

These organizations are not current owned by any American political party or corporate entity that controls content.   This should enhance their credibility,  as sources free of partisan control.
LOL. 
Get a clue about how news is disseminated.
The AP?
NPR?
Both non-profits relying on the information(news) as reported by its fee paying members who thus are able to use the info themselves. All of the members are owned or controlled by corporately owned media enterprises or public news outlets funded by private donations and federal tax income.
Each supposedly are free of “ bias”?  Get a life.  The AP is routinely criticized for anti Israel bias and
NPR for political correctness ( Ask Juan Williams).
The Independent? A website owned by a Russian that it is an unabashed center-left outlet interested in pushing views, not news. Nothing wrong with that unless you are looking for balanced “ news” coverage. Point is the Independent is owned by someone who has partisan control.
But so what?
If all you do is search for news you agree with you remain as shallow as you post.

None of the above reply is factual or in any way true.   The Independent is actually more pro-market in its economic views than I am.   NPR features conservative opinions,  in balance with liberal ones,  and clearly separates opinion content from news.   Ditto AP.   The fact that they are open to critique from their own columnists is a feature,  not a bug.
They all have firewalls between any corporate money and newsrooms.   I notice you also erroneously assumed these are the only sources I use.  PBS NewsHour is also good.  Marc Short is on all the time.   And many other conservatives.  You didn't mention Thomson Reuters - couldn't find a handy way to disparage,  I guess.   I also read National Review,  a conservative political mag.   And The Guardian,  which does lean Left in its opinion pieces,  but another one with an independent news division that has no control from corporate sponsors and is supported by small donors like me.

Here's a thought for you - maybe when you separate news from corporate control,  the actual reality reported doesn't conform to the wet dreams of unregulated capitalism and science denial that get you all sticky.   If that insult seems unwarranted, you had best review the last sentence of your reply.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27347 on: February 09, 2020, 08:46:57 PM »

ProPublica is also topnotch investigative journalism, and was headed by a former managing editor of your beloved WSJ, Paul Steiger.   Its founders agreed to stay out of its news operations,  after putting up the startup money.  Various philanthropic organizations contribute to its mission of independent "down the middle,  straight journalism."   Multiple Pulitzer prizes speak to its success.   You should check it out,  expand the old mind.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27348 on: February 09, 2020, 08:56:08 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27349 on: February 09, 2020, 09:22:07 PM »



If you are ever interested in more fact-based and objective news sources,  I recommend

apnews.com

Or npr.org

Or https://www.independent.co.uk/us

Or Toronto based Reuters.com. 

These organizations are not current owned by any American political party or corporate entity that controls content.   This should enhance their credibility,  as sources free of partisan control.
LOL. 
Get a clue about how news is disseminated.
The AP?
NPR?
Both non-profits relying on the information(news) as reported by its fee paying members who thus are able to use the info themselves. All of the members are owned or controlled by corporately owned media enterprises or public news outlets funded by private donations and federal tax income.
Each supposedly are free of “ bias”?  Get a life.  The AP is routinely criticized for anti Israel bias and
NPR for political correctness ( Ask Juan Williams).
The Independent? A website owned by a Russian that it is an unabashed center-left outlet interested in pushing views, not news. Nothing wrong with that unless you are looking for balanced “ news” coverage. Point is the Independent is owned by someone who has partisan control.
But so what?
If all you do is search for news you agree with you remain as shallow as you post.

None of the above reply is factual or in any way true.   The Independent is actually more pro-market in its economic views than I am.   
LOL.  Then  it is not free from opinion. Thank you.
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NPR features conservative opinions,  in balance with liberal ones,  and clearly separates opinion content from news. 
As does the Wall Street Journal , America’s most widely read newspaper.
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Ditto AP. 
As I said the AP is a conglomerate  of corporate owned media outlets. This seems to confuse you.
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They all have firewalls between any corporate money and newsrooms.
No. there are separations between the news side and corporate ownership opinions. The historical objective of any bona fide news organization is to inform, entertain, and influence
Another fundamental that confuses you
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I notice you also erroneously assumed these are the only sources I use.
I replied to the ones you enumerated.
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  PBS NewsHour is also good.  Marc Short is on all the time.   And many other conservatives.  You didn't mention Thomson Reuters - couldn't find a handy way to disparage,  I guess.   I also read National Review,  a conservative political mag.   And The Guardian,  which does lean Left in its opinion pieces,  but another one with an independent news division that has no control from corporate sponsors and is supported by small donors like me.
Bully for you.
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Here's a thought for you - maybe when you separate news from corporate control,  the actual reality reported doesn't conform to the wet dreams of unregulated capitalism and science denial that get you all sticky.   If that insult seems unwarranted, you had best review the last sentence of your reply.
Capitalism is “ unregulated”?
Science is “ denied”?
You can’t possibly be serious.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27350 on: February 09, 2020, 10:14:51 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27351 on: February 09, 2020, 10:25:03 PM »

The budget proposal, which is expected to be released publicly on Monday, will request $2 billion in homeland security funds for the US southern border wall -- billions less than Congress had previously agreed to. The plan also calls for at least $1.5 trillion in cuts to "non-defense discretionary programs," which does not include Medicare or Social Security, according to CNN's review of the planned budget.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/09/politics/trump-budget-plan-deficit/index.html
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27352 on: February 09, 2020, 11:11:08 PM »

The budget proposal, which is expected to be released publicly on Monday, will request $2 billion in homeland security funds for the US southern border wall -- billions less than Congress had previously agreed to. The plan also calls for at least $1.5 trillion in cuts to "non-defense discretionary programs," which does not include Medicare or Social Security, according to CNN's review of the planned budget.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/09/politics/trump-budget-plan-deficit/index.html

No.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27353 on: February 09, 2020, 11:41:40 PM »

Had to get out the IGGY again.  Sad.

Good thing you told us.

I am sure those you are ignoring will be crushed and devastated.

You misunderstand him, Josh.

Iggy is what he has named his rush limbaugh shaped dildo. He gets it out more than he’d like to admit.
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« Reply #27354 on: February 09, 2020, 11:42:37 PM »

Obama’s win an Oscar to go with their three Grammys...

Can’t wait to see the envious tweets from the Whiner in Chief.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27355 on: February 09, 2020, 11:43:09 PM »

The budget proposal, which is expected to be released publicly on Monday, will request $2 billion in homeland security funds for the US southern border wall -- billions less than Congress had previously agreed to. The plan also calls for at least $1.5 trillion in cuts to "non-defense discretionary programs," which does not include Medicare or Social Security, according to CNN's review of the planned budget.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/09/politics/trump-budget-plan-deficit/index.html

Sounds like just what a bunch of imposters would propose before they permanently go out of business.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #27356 on: February 09, 2020, 11:45:16 PM »

Obama’s win an Oscar to go with their three Grammys...

Can’t wait to see the envious tweets from the Whiner in Chief.

Trump is America’s biggest fraud. The Obamas will never compete with him at that.

Trump has also been on the cover of more fake magazines.
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josh

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« Reply #27357 on: February 09, 2020, 11:47:23 PM »

Capitalism is “ unregulated”?
Science is “ denied”?
You can’t possibly be serious.

You can't possibly be reading.

He didn't say either of those.

He said those were "the wet dreams of unregulated capitalism and science denial that get you all sticky."
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« Reply #27359 on: February 10, 2020, 12:20:05 AM »

The budget proposal, which is expected to be released publicly on Monday, will request $2 billion in homeland security funds for the US southern border wall -- billions less than Congress had previously agreed to. The plan also calls for at least $1.5 trillion in cuts to "non-defense discretionary programs," which does not include Medicare or Social Security, according to CNN's review of the planned budget.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/09/politics/trump-budget-plan-deficit/index.html

Dolt.

You misunderstand the quote you bolded.

It says that Medicare or Social Security are not "non-defense discretionary programs," rather than your interpretation that the budget isn't cutting them.

I have no idea why the CNN article does not discuss the big safety net cuts, but their linked WSJ piece does:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-propose-4-8-trillion-budget-with-big-safety-net-cuts-11581274525?mod=hp_lead_pos1

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President Trump is expected to release a $4.8 trillion budget Monday that charts a path for a potential second term, proposing steep reductions in social-safety-net programs and foreign aid and higher outlays for defense and veterans.

It's got a paywall, so let me get more details from elsewhere:
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In all, the White House is seeking to cut $4.4 trillion in federal spending over the next 10 years, including reductions in spending on food stamps and federal disability benefits through more stringent work and eligibility requirements.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/9/trump-budget-cuts-44-trillion-medicare-discretiona/
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Officials said about half of the proposed savings over a decade would come from reforms or from eliminating programs deemed wasteful in entitlements such as Medicaid and Social Security. They said benefits won’t be affected and that the savings would come from cutting waste and from other savings such as lowering prescription drug prices under Medicare ($130 billion).

Savings of $292 billion would come from reforming Medicaid and other safety net programs, for example by eliminating improper payments to people who have died. Spending on Medicare and Medicaid would still increase.


“The president is proposing more mandatory savings and reforms than any other president in history,” an official said. “He does protect Social Security and Medicare beneficiaries in those programs; he totally meets that commitment.”

The president tweeted on Saturday, “We will not be touching your Social Security or Medicare in Fiscal 2021 Budget.

In other words, the President lied in his State of the Union Speech. The Medicaid proposal he made will force people out of nursing homes. The reduction in disability from SS will devastate lives as well.

The cuts are there, Kid. It's just not in discretionary spending. (A misnomer, clearly.)
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