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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30675 on: April 02, 2020, 10:13:12 PM »

Trump blasts Schumer in letter


"We have given New York many things, including hospitals, medical centers, medical supplies, record numbers of ventilators, and more. You should have had New York much better prepared than you did, as Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx said yesterday, New York was very late in its fight against the virus," Trump said. "As you are aware, the Federal Government is merely a back-up for state governments. Unfortunately, your state needed far more of a back-up than most others."

He continued, "If you spent less time on your ridiculous impeachment hoax, which went haplessly on forever and ended up going nowhere (except increasing my poll numbers), and instead focused on helping the people of New York, then New York would not have been so completely unprepared for the 'invisible enemy.' No wonder AOC and others are thinking about running against you in the primary. If they did, they would likely win."




Yeah, buddy!

That’s what I call true leadership in a time of crisis.

The insults directed at Schumer were made even stranger by an account from his office, which stated that after the senator “made clear what he was requesting, the president said he was already in the process of sending a ‘very nasty letter’ to Sen. Schumer, but he would try to stop it from going out and would apologize to Sen. Schumer if he didn’t stop it in time.” In that light, Trump’s jab came with an assumed pre-apology, a rare caveat for this president.

After shaming New York for the immense breakout in the state — where 2,373 people have already died from COVID-19 — the letter ends on a dubious allegation, claiming that the impeachment trial exacerbated the current crisis on the ground in the Empire State.

Just as that claim ignores the timeline of the crisis — New York had its first coronavirus case almost a full month after the impeachment wrapped up — Trump also ignores his administration’s failure to secure proper testing in the early days of the pandemic, when decisive federal action could have substantially mitigated outbreaks like that in Trump’s birth state. But it wasn’t the first time that Republicans leaned on the impeachment as an excuse for coronavirus inaction: Last week, Mitch McConnell argued that the impeachment had “diverted the attention of the government” as the administration failed to act on credible reports of the seriousness of the crisis in January.



https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/read-trumps-letter-blaming-coronavirus-in-ny-on-impeachment.html
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30676 on: April 02, 2020, 10:50:17 PM »

Trump seems to be saying if he hadn’t blackmailed the Ukraine all those New Yorkers and (Floridians and Michiganders and Texans) would still be alive. His apology tour will mark day one of his beginning of a journey toward leadership.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30678 on: April 03, 2020, 12:21:14 AM »

Just curiously turned on the funereal Rachel Maddow

Starts the show off with this gem:  "Every few minutes the death toll rises."

Showing off that genius again, that Rachel.
if Trump said that you would shoot off an orgasm of praise.
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« Reply #30679 on: April 03, 2020, 12:39:18 AM »

If trump were one tenth the person Rachael Maddow is, he’d be a ten times greater president than he is now.

Jared Kushner is one of the very few people who can make trump look smart by comparison.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30680 on: April 03, 2020, 02:03:44 AM »

LA was the first place in the US to issue a directive to wear masks in public. 

And to not use surgical masks

Sure, because there is a shortage (the gov't never fixed).

Nice to see you've admitted you were wrong.

Oh wait ...
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« Reply #30681 on: April 03, 2020, 03:54:14 AM »

It’s looking more and more that trump has been aware of how he can fix the shortages for quite some time (governors and all those people he fired have been yelling it at him for weeks if not months) and his inaction is a deliberate move to benefit the profiteers.

Typical trump. In fact typical GOP. We may even have a Kelly - Kelly Anne - Ivanka triangle here.

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Jared showing his ugly mug makes this looks like his bovine foray into the china shop of Middle Eastern affairs on the tax payer dime to find a buyer for his devilish and doomed Manhattan building. Trump is the Walrus. Jared is the Carpenter.

Also there’s this

http://www.emptywheel.net/2020/04/02/trump-and-southern-governors-team-up-to-kill-republican-voters/

Or this if you prefer

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/coronavirus-unique-threat-south-young-people/609241/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30683 on: April 03, 2020, 09:24:02 AM »

LA was the first place in the US to issue a directive to wear masks in public. 

And to not use surgical masks

Sure, because there is a shortage (the gov't never fixed).

Nice to see you've admitted you were wrong.

Oh wait ...

A shortage that would have been greater had everyone been taking your advice all along

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30684 on: April 03, 2020, 09:30:35 AM »

It’s looking more and more that trump has been aware of how he can fix the shortages for quite some time (governors and all those people he fired have been yelling it at him for weeks if not months) and his inaction is a deliberate move to benefit the profiteers.

Typical trump. In fact typical GOP. We may even have a Kelly - Kelly Anne - Ivanka triangle here.

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Jared showing his ugly mug makes this looks like his bovine foray into the china shop of Middle Eastern affairs on the tax payer dime to find a buyer for his devilish and doomed Manhattan building. Trump is the Walrus. Jared is the Carpenter.

Also there’s this

http://www.emptywheel.net/2020/04/02/trump-and-southern-governors-team-up-to-kill-republican-voters/



Emptywheel. That's a new one for me.  Thanks.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30685 on: April 03, 2020, 10:12:42 AM »

And to not use surgical masks

Surgical masks would have been fine and beneficial for those in cities and any suburban hotspots.  They are designed to be disposable for hospital staff.  But regular people can and do rewash and reuse surgical masks. I've re-used surgical masks plenty, then washed and reused them some more.  You don't need excellent protection when you go out in public in low risk environs.  Any kind of mask will do.

Again, if everyone is wearing a mask, you have two layers of protection.  That plus hand washing, social distancing, temp checks, a ban on large groups = a thorough response and will reduce transmissions.

We're talking about what were 80 cent surgical masks, probably even cheaper when you buy them in bulk.  Let's say everyone in NYC started wearing face masks on March 1, or even on March 5th when I got back and started haranguing folks here about the need.  Well, that's 12M masks, not all of which need to be surgical masks.  But let's go with 12M surgical masks at a cost of $1 per.  (they should have been handed out for free -- but folks would've paid whatever cost). 

If they had implemented business closures, face mask wearing, temp checks and social distancing then, there's no reason that transmissions wouldn't have been greatly reduced, possibly minimal.  Shanghai had roughly 500 total cases.  Let's say NYC could've limited cases to 2K - 3000 infections.  A made-up number but isn't that where SF and LA are around.  And they didn't deploy face masks, which would have lowered transmissions.

By deploying 12M masks to the public in NYC on or about March 1st and mandating everyone wear them in public (it was never mandated, but just strongly recced in Shanghai), there would have been many fewer Covid-19 cases, and with many fewer contagious patients they could have easily saved 12M surgical masks used in hospitals dealing with the 50K infected NYers.  So there wouldn't have been a shortage of masks, hospital beds, ICU rooms, isolation wards and ventilators.  Or any shortage would have been minor and manageable.

You don't seem to understand anything about face masks and/or the use of them during a pandemic.  They fit well.  They can be reused.  They provide two layers of protection against viral transmission.  They keep everyone on alert because it is sobering when every person you meet is wearing a mask.  Everyone who has the virus and is contagious will be largely prevented from spreading the virus in public places.  Anyone not infected reduces their chance of inhaling or otherwise coming into contact with the virus.

Face masks combined with other measures (closures, social distancing, hand washing, temp checks) make for a strong regimen of protection and helps stop transmission chains.  Outside of Wuhan and Hubei where the outbreak originated before strong precautionary measures were in place, China avoided serious outbreaks.  The US dickered and NYC became New Wuhan, NJ mimicking Italy. 

Fuckin' heh ...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30686 on: April 03, 2020, 10:14:43 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30687 on: April 03, 2020, 10:18:21 AM »

https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2020/04/03/821397097/rattlesnake-roundup-a-texas-community-tradition

Idiots come together in small TX town to create coronavirus petri dish!   

(oddly,  I had just watched the classic film,  Ace in the Hole, in which Kirk Douglas heads out of Albuquerque to cover a rattlesnake festival,  then is sidetracked by something more newsworthy)
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« Reply #30688 on: April 03, 2020, 10:21:40 AM »

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You don't seem to understand anything about face masks and or the use of them during a pandemic.   

Bo,  you've only patiently explained it to Kid around 50 times.   I think this difficulty of cranial penetration speaks to the true meaning of TDS.   
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« Reply #30689 on: April 03, 2020, 10:30:54 AM »

Fucking heh ...
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