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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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« Reply #38115 on: June 12, 2020, 11:44:56 PM »

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« Reply #38116 on: June 12, 2020, 11:49:30 PM »

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« Reply #38117 on: June 12, 2020, 11:50:52 PM »

Its like Earth is passing through a cometary tail composed of nitrous oxide.


They actually live on Esrth Two
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« Reply #38118 on: June 12, 2020, 11:56:07 PM »

The subtext to all the stupid things Trump says -- like ingesting bleach, that he's been treated worse than Lincoln, chokeholds sound so innocent, etc. -- is that he obviously has been saying dumb ish and coming up with stupid ideas for decades, but he was wealthy and a bully so nobody ever called him on these bursts of idiocy before. 

So that he doesn't realize how dumb his many stupid ideas are.  And genuinely thinks his thoughts are reasonable and normal, and not laughable nonsense.  Unfortunately a man with such bad ideas, garbled thinking and a poor understanding of most everything is in charge of the country.  Amazing that people actually voted for Trump.
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« Reply #38119 on: June 12, 2020, 11:59:16 PM »

The subtext to all the stupid things Trump says -- like ingesting bleach, that he's been treated worse than Lincoln, chokeholds sound so innocent, etc. -- is that he obviously has been saying dumb ish and coming up with stupid ideas for decades, but he was wealthy and a bully so nobody ever called him on these bursts of idiocy before. 

So that he doesn't realize how dumb his many stupid ideas are.  And genuinely thinks his thoughts are reasonable and normal, and not laughable nonsense.  Unfortunately a man with such bad ideas, garbled thinking and a poor understanding of most everything is in charge of the country.  Amazing that people actually voted for Trump.

I really think he is far worse than he used to be, in bunches of ways. And I was never a fan.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #38120 on: June 13, 2020, 12:04:40 AM »

What I mean when I say Fox News lies:



Got an example like that from the so-called liberal main stream media, Captain?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #38121 on: June 13, 2020, 12:05:37 AM »

Where Kid, Ward, Bambi, and now apparently Cap see the future of African-Americans going:


Nah.
I see their future having a better chance of improving if they do things legally.
A better chance if their protests are peaceful and legal, rather than violent and illegal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Board_of_Education

The Browns, then represented by NAACP chief counsel Thurgood Marshall, appealed to the Supreme Court, which agreed to hear the case.

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There he is, my man Thurgood.
One cool dude.

Yes I know, "he can't be your man because you are white".
In a fair and equal society I can, and have "adopted" him as "my man". 
« Last Edit: June 13, 2020, 12:08:52 AM by bambu. »
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« Reply #38122 on: June 13, 2020, 12:05:59 AM »

The subtext to all the stupid things Trump says -- like ingesting bleach, that he's been treated worse than Lincoln, chokeholds sound so innocent, etc. -- is that he obviously has been saying dumb ish and coming up with stupid ideas for decades, but he was wealthy and a bully so nobody ever called him on these bursts of idiocy before. 

So that he doesn't realize how dumb his many stupid ideas are.  And genuinely thinks his thoughts are reasonable and normal, and not laughable nonsense.  Unfortunately a man with such bad ideas, garbled thinking and a poor understanding of most everything is in charge of the country.  Amazing that people actually voted for Trump.

Meanwhile as he is spouting gibberish to be parsed by media the GOP Senate is using his bluster as cover their actions in tucking over the nation for decades. While putting forth a justice reform bill  (not to reform police, but to get people out of the streets) they’re putting THIS  guy on the federal circuit.. for life.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/senate-judiciary-approves-trump-fifth-circuit-pick-cory-wilson
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« Reply #38123 on: June 13, 2020, 12:24:45 AM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Board_of_Education

The United States and the Soviet Union were both at the height of the Cold War during this time, and U.S. officials, including Supreme Court Justices, were highly aware of the harm that segregation and racism were doing to America's international image.

When Justice William O. Douglas traveled to India in 1950, the first question he was asked was, "Why does America tolerate the lynching of Negroes?"
 Douglas later wrote that he had learned from his travels that "the attitude of the United States toward its colored minorities is a powerful factor in our relations with India."
Chief Justice Earl Warren, nominated to the Supreme Court by President Eisenhower, echoed Douglas's concerns in a 1954 speech to the American Bar Association, proclaiming that ;"Our American system like all others is on trial both at home and abroad, ... the extent to which we maintain the spirit of our constitution with its Bill of Rights, will in the long run do more to make it both secure and the object of adulation than the number of hydrogen bombs we stockpile."
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« Reply #38124 on: June 13, 2020, 12:33:19 AM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Board_of_Education

The United States and the Soviet Union were both at the height of the Cold War during this time, and U.S. officials, including Supreme Court Justices, were highly aware of the harm that segregation and racism were doing to America's international image.

When Justice William O. Douglas traveled to India in 1950, the first question he was asked was, "Why does America tolerate the lynching of Negroes?"
 Douglas later wrote that he had learned from his travels that "the attitude of the United States toward its colored minorities is a powerful factor in our relations with India."
Chief Justice Earl Warren, nominated to the Supreme Court by President Eisenhower, echoed Douglas's concerns in a 1954 speech to the American Bar Association, proclaiming that ;"Our American system like all others is on trial both at home and abroad, ... the extent to which we maintain the spirit of our constitution with its Bill of Rights, will in the long run do more to make it both secure and the object of adulation than the number of hydrogen bombs we stockpile."
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« Reply #38125 on: June 13, 2020, 12:41:25 AM »

Nah.
I see their future having a better chance of improving if they do things legally.
A better chance if their protests are peaceful and legal, rather than violent and illegal.

It's like you ignored what I wrote about the fruits of Brown v. Board.

And what I said about "legal."

And that it took civil unrest, not "peaceful and legal" to get to Brown, to get to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and then required military to enforce them to the limited extent that they were enforced.

More progress has been following these protests than in the prior twenty years for police reform. And more to come.

And more progress in white Americans' perception of the racism against African-Americans, as well.

Quiet, go-along to get along does not work and it never has. I assure you, I wish it were otherwise. I wish UNO's "civil discourse" solved things. It doesn't.
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« Reply #38126 on: June 13, 2020, 12:42:55 AM »

Brown v. Board of Education was a historic milestone.  Yet not much changed.  A decade after Brown there was a follow-up case in which the Supreme Court said that segregated schools needed to be desegregated right away.  And still there was litigation and more years of resistance.

Virginia came up with a "massive resistance" strategy to Brown v. Board (1954).
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In September 1960, just 170 out of 204,000 black students in Virginia were enrolled in white schools. By 1963, the situation, as reflected in the state's capital, was not much better-of the 26,000 black students in Richmond, only 312 were enrolled in 12 formerly all-white schools. In Prince Edward County, public schools remained closed for five years.
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« Reply #38127 on: June 13, 2020, 01:23:03 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/thelincolnproject.us/videos/253974022374676/

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America or Trump?
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« Reply #38128 on: June 13, 2020, 01:41:03 AM »

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/12/starbucks-black-lives-matter-clothing

Also choke holds getting banned in Iowa.

Trump is running out of places to “party”.
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