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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40215 on: June 27, 2020, 11:28:32 AM »

Important to note who he was dealing with in Congress during most of his tenure---puts those accomplishments in proper context. Also, he was the first scandal free Prez since Ike.

Hugely embarrassing that Dems lost the Senate two years after taking over the disastrous Bush who crashed the economy and got us into 2 endless wars.
Actually they lost a Senate race in MA before that which is inexcusable.
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« Reply #40216 on: June 27, 2020, 11:33:13 AM »

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The Dems need to make the case for the need for a Dem Senate.  They need to go for a full tidal wave landslide.

This is where the Dems could use Soros/Bloomberg PAC money and make very targeted consisent and coherent attacks against the complicity and cowardice of Senate Repubs in empowering and refusing to question an inept authoritarian dangerous nut-job like Trump. 

The Blue Tsunami may hit the US shore hard this year but when waters retreat in the out years and the damage done by the Trump-Repubs become glaringly obvious, its going to up to the Dems to clean up the Repub mess, so they're the ones who will get dirty.

But Repubs will then blame Dems for a slow clean up effort. And that they have the answers to right the ship, hello 2022 off-year elections!

So Dems basically have to run-up the score in 2020, and neuter as many Repubs as possible, gain the WH, House and Senate, clean up the disaster, feeding the hungry, heal the sick, and put together a sane package (maybe infrastructure-jobs, expanded heathcare, continued government support for an ongoing economic recovery, rebuilding US stature with traditional allies,) that doesn't scare mod and indy voters in 2022. Stay the fuck away from medicare for all and soaking the rich and corps in taxes, hold-off  on controversial, divisive stuff, as Dems will need time and consensus to rebuild America, and there will be pain and costs to be borne and likely by those that have disproportionately and unfairly benefitted over the past 40 or so years. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40217 on: June 27, 2020, 11:45:35 AM »

It's been 7 years.



Can this Court admit that it erred?
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« Reply #40218 on: June 27, 2020, 11:54:19 AM »

This is where the Dems could use Soros/Bloomberg PAC money and make very targeted consisent and coherent attacks against the complicity and cowardice of Senate Repubs in empowering and refusing to question an inept authoritarian dangerous nut-job like Trump. 

I've been thinking the same thing.  Exactly where Bloomberg's money/org could help.  A coordianted national effort would be useful.

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Stay the fuck away from medicare for all and soaking the rich and corps in taxes, hold-off  on controversial, divisive stuff, as Dems will need time and consensus to rebuild America, and there will be pain and costs to be borne and likely by those that have disproportionately and unfairly benefited over the past 40 or so years.

Disagree.  Get everyone covered by health insurance.  Obamacare is popular and will be more so once the cracks are fixed.

Certainly need to reverse the ill-conceived ill-timed Trump tax cuts.
States are drowning in debt.  And will need support.
One of my solutions is to make companies pay a minimum of 15% tax on profits.  no more zeroing out.  No more billion dollar profits and zero tax. 

You need to fight for what you believe and stand for something.  And do the right thing.  Moderate, GOP-lite is not the answer for the Dems.
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« Reply #40219 on: June 27, 2020, 12:08:50 PM »

This is where the Dems could use Soros/Bloomberg PAC money and make very targeted consisent and coherent attacks against the complicity and cowardice of Senate Repubs in empowering and refusing to question an inept authoritarian dangerous nut-job like Trump. 

I've been thinking the same thing.  Exactly where Bloomberg's money/org could help.  A coordianted national effort would be useful.

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Stay the fuck away from medicare for all and soaking the rich and corps in taxes, hold-off  on controversial, divisive stuff, as Dems will need time and consensus to rebuild America, and there will be pain and costs to be borne and likely by those that have disproportionately and unfairly benefited over the past 40 or so years.

Disagree.  Get everyone covered by health insurance.  Obamacare is popular and will be more so once the cracks are fixed.

Certainly need to reverse the ill-conceived ill-timed Trump tax cuts.
States are drowning in debt.  And will need support.
One of my solutions is to make companies pay a minimum of 15% tax on profits.  no more zeroing out.  No more billion dollar profits and zero tax. 

You need to fight for what you believe and stand for something.  And do the right thing.  Moderate, GOP-lite is not the answer for the Dems.

I think Dems with the electoral trifecta (P/S/H) can deliver Obamacare +, a better  and expanded health insurance program, BUT stay the fuck away from deeply controversial medicare for all that we know will be politicized and demonized in 2022. 

Some corp tax cuts can be tinkered with, and minimum payments (an AMT of 15% for large corps doesn't sound crazy or unfair) BUT as the US is coming out of a economic disaster/recession/depression raising corrporate taxes is economically, finanacially and ultimately politically counterproductive. Its a loser.

Dems have to show they can realistically fashion programs and tax plans that big biz can prosper under even if they bitch about it, and they will. The Dems will lose in 2022 if they go too far left in 20-22, and jeopardize 2024.

this is a marathon not a sprint, so don't waste all your energy on the first 100 meters.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40220 on: June 27, 2020, 12:11:39 PM »

From a NYTimes article:  Putin pays bounties to Afghan soldiers who kill US soldiers.

Raising the question of what the Trump Family's cut was in this deal.

Unless you’ve all of a sudden see the peepee tape, the threat of its release is all Vlad needs to signal to get trumps up and dancing his twisted little jigs.
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« Reply #40221 on: June 27, 2020, 12:26:17 PM »

http://www.vox.com/2020/6/26/21300761/european-union-ban-us-visitors-july-1

First time this has happened in my memory.

Trumpy republicans have cost Americans the right to travel to Europe, a sure sign of their continued unmitigated failure. It’s a new low even for the clown car death cult.

Next up, Puerto Rico will start throwing paper towel rolls at Florida and Russia will build a wall across the Bering Straits to keep our unwashed masses from invading their shores.
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« Reply #40223 on: June 27, 2020, 12:59:25 PM »

https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/opinion/2020/06/26/jon-stewart-gives-joe-biden-an-endorsement-for-the-ages.html

For the last four years, America and the world have choked on the pollution of Donald Trump, a human smokestack belching acrid plumes of lies and poison into the body politic. Watching this guy try to be president is like watching a firefighter try to douse a blaze with a hose of kerosene.

Stand back, everyone! This inferno is getting worse!

The truth is, a three-legged donkey running against Trump would now be way up in the polls. This reality show presidency got T-boned by the reality of a global pandemic. And upon impact, a Trump in sad clown makeup crashed headfirst through a windshield of incompetence.

With the possible exception of actually mailing the coronavirus to every American, it’s hard to imagine how he could have done a worse job. Trump is antimask and pro-injecting Clorox. He’s anti-testing, which means he’s pro-death. He seems to think contact tracing is communist doodling.

He is to epidemiology as The Rock is to scrawny.

COVID-19 put TRUMP 2016-2020 under a microscope, as both a leader and a human being. And it’s not pretty. Slide after slide reveals festering bacterial cultures of narcissism and fits of folly.

Or as Jon Stewart put it: “I think Biden’s slogan should just be, ‘It’s enough already.’”


There's a lot more worth your time reading in that piece.
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« Reply #40224 on: June 27, 2020, 01:31:00 PM »

Covid has now been rampant in the human population long enough for science to start building a picture of the secondary and downstream effects of the virus. The dereliction of the trump administration will be with us a long time in the hundreds of thousands who will never fully recover.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ef77886c5b6acab28426268

Lungs, pancreases, brains...
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« Reply #40226 on: June 27, 2020, 02:16:19 PM »

Scratch Woodrow Wilson’s name from the Business College at Princeton.
Racist, ya know!
Seems like every day now we learn a founder or stalwart of the democrat party is now regarded as some sort of foul fellow.
Let’s see who is left?
FDR jailed  Japanese Americans and Harry Truman regularly used the N and K words in referring to blacks and Jews.
Where will it all end?

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« Reply #40227 on: June 27, 2020, 02:26:47 PM »

Important to note who he was dealing with in Congress during most of his tenure---puts those accomplishments in proper context. Also, he was the first scandal free Prez since Ike.

Hugely embarrassing that Dems lost the Senate two years after taking over the disastrous Bush....
Six years. They lost the house in 2010. They kept the Senate until 2014.
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« Reply #40228 on: June 27, 2020, 02:36:55 PM »

Scratch Woodrow Wilson’s name from the Business College at Princeton.
Racist, ya know!
Seems like every day now we learn a founder or stalwart of the democrat party is now regarded as some sort of foul fellow.
Let’s see who is left?
FDR jailed  Japanese Americans and Harry Truman regularly used the N and K words in referring to blacks and Jews.
Where will it all end?

The important thing is to take down all the images of a white Jesus, Peter, or any early church father, God or angel. They need to be replaced with brown skinned images with hook noses and curly black hair, to better reflect their origins.

One you demythologize the truly mythological figures, the rest will fall into place.

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« Reply #40229 on: June 27, 2020, 02:42:20 PM »

Scratch Woodrow Wilson’s name from the Business College at Princeton.
Racist, ya know!
Seems like every day now we learn a founder or stalwart of the democrat party is now regarded as some sort of foul fellow.
Let’s see who is left?
FDR jailed  Japanese Americans and Harry Truman regularly used the N and K words in referring to blacks and Jews.
Where will it all end?

where will it end?

When dumb motherfuckers like you, stop your bullshit idiotic distractions about equating prejudice practiced by generally patriotic Americans, who were products of their times (for good and bad) and unpatriotic traitors who fought against the US states and wanted to perpetuate slavery.  And seriously examine racism and its corrosive impact on our country today and work to end it.

Thats when it will end.

It doesn't end with your idiotic and false narratives.

Red why do you want to continue to honor traitors you ignorant fucking fascist asshole?
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