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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

I posted about it yesterday, you must have missed it.


thus the note in my post

[kiidcarter8]

“Wow, the big tires and everything,” Officer said. “You never know about people.”




Uhhh...   what?

[NeedsAdjustments]

Trump wants Tommy - or is it Tomy - in the Senate



Trump wins.

And the reason Trump turned on Sessions is because Trump is corrupt.

But you could care less about that.  All you care to do is yell "scoreboard."

Because you are an imbecile.

Sessions currently suffering consequences of going against the leader of the free world.

Like Vindman and others.

I'm not sure if you think you are arguing against my point kiidcarter8, because you are really only offering further support of it.

[bankshot1]

I posted about it yesterday, you must have missed it.


thus the note in my post

Well seeing that you posted a link about the Trump Admin's end-run around the CDC, and you didn't make fun of the CNN headline as is your habit when posting CNN zrticles, what's your hot take/take away?

What's the significance?

[kiidcarter8]

COVID death to new cases yesterday    -   1.35%

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Re:  school age children

"We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from Covid," he said. "We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose, that are above excess, than we had as background, than we are seeing deaths from Covid."


-  CDC Director Redfield



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Last year the US saw about 185 drug overdose deaths per day.  Yesterday, according to the CDC, the US saw 351 new deaths due to COVID.  So for there to be "far greater" deaths that are above what would be expected otherwise, we would be looking at what, at least 550 drug overdose deaths per day, or a threefold increase in drug overdose deaths nationwide?

Annually, as in one year, the US had about 67,000 drug overdose deaths.  We are looking at 140,000 deaths from COVID in Four Months and it is far from being contained, and shows every sign of getting worse.  But Trump's CDC Director thinks we should all be more concerned by overdoses right now?

Redfield is a political hack.  If he is going to make that kind of claim, he needs to support it with the numbers.

Now its possible given the context provided by the article that kiidcarter8 did not link to that Redfield was talking about seeing more overdose deaths in high school age kids than COVID deaths in high school age kids which is a far more probable claim.

But even if it then give the statement the context that kiidcarter8 wanted us to ignore, its still idiotic.  Because a) COVID is not only a health threat when it leads to deaths, b) you also need to consider the probable deaths of Teachers who are not high school age and c) those high school age kids carrying COVID while not showing symptoms will spread it to populations that are more vulnerable than they are, like their parents and grandparents.

So context doesn't make Redfield's statement any better.  In fact, it reveals him to be remarkably ignorant on the issues surrounding the spread of a virus that he was put in place by Trump to protect us from.

[kiidcarter8]

Now its possible given the context provided by the article that kiidcarter8 did not link to that Redfield was talking about seeing more overdose deaths in high school age kids than COVID deaths in high school age kids which is a far more probable claim.

That's the point.

Teenage depression must be watched closely as well.  Drug use just a part of the picture.

[NeedsAdjustments]

That's the point.

No, that wasn't your point.  Your point was to take a statement out of context as support of a dumb unsupported argument you have made here before.

Teenage depression must be watched closely as well.  Drug use just a part of the picture.

So then watch teenage depression and drug use and provide support for that.  Don't use irrelevant arguments against the science to support the "president's" political goals.  That isn't the job of the CDC.

[kiidcarter8]

Re:  kids infecting teachers -

Much much MUCH more likely that a teacher infects another after bringing it from outside the school - and not from their kids.

TEACHER VIGILANCE should get more attention than rules for kids.  Constant browbeating by already overmilitious teacher types could prove quite harmful 

"Johnny - I saw that!  You keep that mask on or you are getting detention!"

Inside Johnny's head:  "Fuck off - I need to breathe"  - but damage done to his psyche nevertheless

[kiidcarter8]

That's the point.

No, that wasn't your point.  Your point was to take a statement out of context as support of a dumb unsupported argument you have made here before.

Teenage depression must be watched closely as well.  Drug use just a part of the picture.

So then watch teenage depression and drug use and provide support for that.  Don't use irrelevant arguments against the science to support the "president's" political goals.  That isn't the job of the CDC.

I dont think you understand the issue fully

Its ok.

[kiidcarter8]

Trump wants Tommy - or is it Tomy - in the Senate



Trump wins.

And the reason Trump turned on Sessions is because Trump is corrupt.

But you could care less about that.  All you care to do is yell "scoreboard."

Because you are an imbecile.

Sessions currently suffering consequences of going against the leader of the free world.

Like Vindman and others.

I'm not sure if you think you are arguing against my point kiidcarter8, because you are really only offering further support of it.

And?

[kiidcarter8]

But you could care less about that.  All you care to do is yell "scoreboard."



Occasionally - as is my right.

[Echo4]

It's not either/or.  Do both.  The more precautions the better.  (and she was right to list masks first).  Then again she's a Euro, and probably is wondering what the hell is wrong with stupid Americans that they can't just simply wear masks.


Yes.  Have mask in pocket or around neck and socially distance.  Put mask on when situation dictates

If positive there will be no such situation - no need for such face covering..

Because nobody is ever sure about things, but wrong.

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Much much MUCH more likely that a teacher infects another after bringing it from outside the school - and not from their kids.

Talking completely out of your ass with zero evidence to back you up.

Also, just flat wrong.  A teacher is more likely to get the virus while spending most of his or her time isolating at home or spending 30 minutes in the grocery store where everyone is isolating and wearing a mask than spending 8 hours in a poorly ventilated interior space with kids unlikely to be wearing their masks all the time and where socially isolating is impossible?

And you make the claim that I don't understand the issue fully?

Dude, you make even a Trumpist look smart in comparison.

[NeedsAdjustments]

But you could care less about that.  All you care to do is yell "scoreboard."



Occasionally - as is my right.

It is your right to be a jackass who values tallying "Trump Wins" over rank corruption, self-dealing, and probable treason at the executive level of our government.

Of course it is.  Its a free country.  Mostly.  For right now, anyway.