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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Hamilton Samuels

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #46680 on: August 09, 2020, 05:28:57 PM »

“The Police lie ALL the time”!
Why is it then that overwhelming numbers of blacks are in favor of MORE police, not fewer?

Have someone read this to you, dumbass.

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/17/21292046/black-people-abolish-defund-dismantle-police-george-floyd-breonna-taylor-black-lives-matter-protest]
“The Police lie ALL the time”!
Why is it then that overwhelming numbers of blacks are in favor of MORE police, not fewer?

Have someone read this to you, dumbass.

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/17/21292046/black-people-abolish-defund-dismantle-police-george-floyd-breonna-taylor-black-lives-matter-protest
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #46681 on: August 09, 2020, 05:30:14 PM »

While most apologists would deflect with an apples to oranges comparison, Red introduces lemons.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5eebcb16c5b66603e671c2d7

Ferguson prepared us for this moment. 

“Keep marching”.
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REDSTATEWARD

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Re: Testilying
« Reply #46683 on: August 09, 2020, 05:53:12 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/police-testilying.html?fbclid=IwAR3lZJQ-bieulCD9_ilur-LWzt0gVvrtUVE_h4TwG_KbiHzFHionwnu8anQ

"The police lie. All the time. Can anything slow them down?"

Not every time, but regularly.
Try again.  You are making progress even while embarrassing yourself.
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Re: Testilying
« Reply #46684 on: August 09, 2020, 05:56:55 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/police-testilying.html?fbclid=IwAR3lZJQ-bieulCD9_ilur-LWzt0gVvrtUVE_h4TwG_KbiHzFHionwnu8anQ

"The police lie. All the time. Can anything slow them down?"

Not every time, but regularly.
Try again.  You are making progress even while embarrassing yourself.

Cops lie routinely.

“If you tell me what happened I can help you.”

Is a fucking lie.

The only thing anyone should say to the police is “Lawyer!”
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Re: Testilying
« Reply #46685 on: August 09, 2020, 06:19:35 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/police-testilying.html?fbclid=IwAR3lZJQ-bieulCD9_ilur-LWzt0gVvrtUVE_h4TwG_KbiHzFHionwnu8anQ

"The police lie. All the time. Can anything slow them down?"

Not every time, but regularly.
Try again.  You are making progress even while embarrassing yourself.

Cops lie routinely.
No they don’t.

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Re: Testilying
« Reply #46686 on: August 09, 2020, 06:29:51 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/police-testilying.html?fbclid=IwAR3lZJQ-bieulCD9_ilur-LWzt0gVvrtUVE_h4TwG_KbiHzFHionwnu8anQ

"The police lie. All the time. Can anything slow them down?"

Not every time, but regularly.
Try again.  You are making progress even while embarrassing yourself.

Cops lie routinely.
No they don’t.

Red lies routinely.

I'm pretty sure that is understood and accepted on Elba

thankfully his lies are harmless as no one believes him.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #46687 on: August 09, 2020, 06:50:57 PM »

“The Police lie ALL the time”!
Why is it then that overwhelming numbers of blacks are in favor of MORE police, not fewer?

While you are ignoring what Uno posted, you can examine these, perhaps. They all predated the George Floyd extrajudicial killing:

"More than eight-in-ten black adults say blacks are treated less fairly than whites by police, criminal justice system"

Or look at this:


Maybe this will whet your appetite for truth:


You, a white Republican, have your head so far up your ass that you can watch things go through your small intestine. Your brain fits in there.

This chart suggests that your claim about the "overwhelming" preference of Blacks for more police may be full of shit. (We would all be terribly surprised by that, of course.)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #46688 on: August 09, 2020, 06:52:05 PM »

“The Police lie ALL the time”!
Why is it then that overwhelming numbers of blacks are in favor of MORE police, not fewer?

Out of curiosity, Ward, do you have any evidence to support your position?! Or would you like us to take your blanket claim as gospel truth?!
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Re: Testilying
« Reply #46689 on: August 09, 2020, 06:55:20 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/police-testilying.html?fbclid=IwAR3lZJQ-bieulCD9_ilur-LWzt0gVvrtUVE_h4TwG_KbiHzFHionwnu8anQ

"The police lie. All the time. Can anything slow them down?"

Not every time, but regularly.
Try again.  You are making progress even while embarrassing yourself.

I'm entertained by your saying that, after having already posted in response to it and attempting to discredit it, before later flat out simply denying it.

You have the same problem most white police officers have. You are blind to your own blindness.
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Re: Testilying
« Reply #46690 on: August 09, 2020, 06:58:35 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/police-testilying.html?fbclid=IwAR3lZJQ-bieulCD9_ilur-LWzt0gVvrtUVE_h4TwG_KbiHzFHionwnu8anQ

"The police lie. All the time. Can anything slow them down?"

Not every time, but regularly.
Try again.  You are making progress even while embarrassing yourself.

Cops lie routinely.
No they don’t.

Yeah. They do. I’m married to a former ADA.
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Echo4

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #46691 on: August 09, 2020, 07:02:00 PM »

Ward, this is from 2016. It represents the attitudes of whites, Blacks, and Hispanics from dozens of surveys done during the 2014-2016 period.


Since then, there has been a sea change in how the question of fairness is evaluated by most Americans, including many Republicans.

This is not evidence about whether police lie on the stand routinely, but it does suggest that your (thus far baseless) belief that Blacks overwhelmingly want more police is perhaps less... rooted in truth than you would like to think
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Re: Testilying
« Reply #46692 on: August 09, 2020, 07:09:03 PM »

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/police-testilying.html?fbclid=IwAR3lZJQ-bieulCD9_ilur-LWzt0gVvrtUVE_h4TwG_KbiHzFHionwnu8anQ

"The police lie. All the time. Can anything slow them down?"

Not every time, but regularly.
Try again.  You are making progress even while embarrassing yourself.

Cops lie routinely.
No they don’t.

Yeah. They do. I’m married to a former ADA.
I have been on both halves of the cop questioning. I think cops have roughly the same relationship to the truth as the rest of us. They lie as much and for roughly the same reasons.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #46693 on: August 09, 2020, 07:12:50 PM »

https://www.officer.com/home/article/10233095/training-cops-to-lie-pt-1

Training Cops to Lie - Pt 1
What's at stake when police use deception to obtain evidence? Their career and the case. Val Van Brocklin writes about the state of the law and preparing officers for this complex and critical arena.

Val Van Brocklin
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Police lie. It's part of job. They lie to suspects and others in hopes of obtaining evidence. These investigative lies cover a wide web of deception - a web that can get tangled. Some investigative lies are legal, some are not, and some generate significant disagreement amongst courts, prosecutors, the public and officers themselves.

There are serious consequences here. Officers can:

* Be sanctioned by the courts.
* Be sued.
* Be disciplined in the job.
* Lose the public's confidence.
* Have evidence suppressed, a case dismissed and a criminal freed.

Proper training in this complex arena is critical.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #46694 on: August 09, 2020, 07:23:53 PM »

Ward, this is from 2016.
Today blacks( 8-10) want the same or MORE presence in THEIR neighborhoods

https://news.gallup.com/poll/316571/black-americans-police-retain-local-presence.aspx?utm_source=tagrss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=syndication

Hardly a testimonial to your absurdity that all cops lie.
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