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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Echo4]

As previously reported by Law&Crime, the North Dakota construction firm that built the structurally unsound wall, Fisher Sand & Gravel, was also awarded a record-high $1.3 billion government contract to erect a portion of the federally funded U.S.-Mexico border wall. Despite FSG’s prototype being rejected by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for lacking in both “quality” and “sophistication,” President Trump directly inserted himself into the process for evaluating and awarding the contracts, lobbying on behalf of FSG and the firm’s CEO Tommy Fisher.

Fisher, who has made a number of Fox News guest appearances in the past, reportedly sold Trump on his company by playing to his impatience with the lack of progress on his signature campaign promise, telling the president he could build the wall faster and cheaper than other contractors bidding on the project. Fisher described his design as the “Lamborghini” of walls.

The rosy outlook was not shared by Alex Mayer, a professor of civil engineering at the University of Texas at El Paso who reviewed both reports.
“It seems like they are cutting corners everywhere,” Mayer told ProPublica. “It’s not a Lamborghini, it’s a $500 used car.”

How... surprising.

[Echo4]

Australia (govt) has been criticised for overreacting to  Coronavirus/Covid-19....destroying its society and economy.

Trump did not overreact...but he's still being criticised.

That’s because we have nearly 200000 dead and the economy is headed for a cliff. Trump and Republicans won’t move to help people unless they get liability protection for corporations and companies who may have or is in the process of fucking over their employees.

Trump is killing more people faster and with less discrimination than any active shooter in American history. It’s time for the mythical good guys with guns to step up and end the trump threat.

Do not call for the assassination of the president.

[Echo4]

Uruguay has done quite well combating the Virus.
1,626 cases; 44 deaths of 3.5M people.
They are said to have an excellent health care service.

That's especially true given how its neighbors are doing. Even Argentina is doing well, considering Chile, but both Uruguay and Paraguay have done quite well.

[bodiddley]

So what happens if Biden starts touring Kenosha, assessing the damage, talking to residents, etc and a dozen right wing armed militia types show up and hang around?
How does the Secret Service handle that?

And what about if some deranged Cesar Sayoc-type Trump supporter is worried Trump is behind, that a Biden presidency will lead to chaos and decides to take Biden out?  How would the nation and the Dems deal with Biden getting gunned down?
Kamala?  Hillary?  Bernie?  A smoky backroom re-convention where they select Liz Warren on the 7th ballot?

[Echo4]

Just a few bad apples...

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/video-shows-rochester-police-put-hood-on-handcuffed-black-man-who-died-of-asphyxiation-in-new-york

This is from March, but the footage was just released.

Which part of police procedure calls for putting a hood on a suspect under any circumstances?!

[Echo4]

So what happens if Biden starts touring Kenosha, assessing the damage, talking to residents, etc and a dozen right wing armed militia types show up and hang around?
How does the Secret Service handle that?

And what about if some deranged Cesar Sayoc-type Trump supporter is worried Trump is behind, that a Biden presidency will lead to chaos and decides to take Biden out?  How would the nation and the Dems deal with Biden getting gunned down?
Kamala?  Hillary?  Bernie?  A smoky backroom re-convention where they select Liz Warren on the 7th ballot?

According to the party's bylaws, the party's Chair would call a meeting of the National Committee, and the Committee members at the meeting would vote to fill the vacancy on the ticket. Obviously, a candidate must receive a majority of the votes to win the party's nod. (Article 3, Section 1(c) covers it very succinctly and without specificity: "The Democratic National Committee shall have general responsibility for the affairs of the Democratic Party between National Conventions, subject to the provisions of this Charter and to the resolutions or other actions of the National Convention. This responsibility shall include:
(a) (irrelevant)
(b) (irrelevant)
(c) filling vacancies in the nominations for the office of President and Vice President;"

Who? A fine question. There is no guidance for how the National Committee shall fulfill that responsibility in the case of an absence.

I don't know that they would need to acquire a smoke machine for the process, however.

I'll note that Mike Dukakis is tanned, rested, and ready.

[bodiddley]

I think you missed the "cigars for all" provision in a hidden sub-clause ...

An interesting sub-question, would the Harris VP nomination stand, or would the new presidential nominee get to re-Veep?

[Echo4]

I think you missed the "cigars for all" provision in a hidden sub-clause ...

An interesting sub-question, would the Harris VP nomination stand, or would the new presidential nominee get to re-Veep?

It stands unless they make her the nominee for president. Otherwise there is no vacancy for them to fill and the DNC vote holds. There is no provision to undo the vote.

Bernie would make the argument that he should be the nominee as the 2nd highest vote getter, but it's just an argument with no power inherent to it. That status may influence some of the public, but...

Harris would argue that just as she would take over had they been elected, so too should she under this circumstance. That argument, too, has no power inherent to it.

I think I'd recommend Bill Gates.
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Bill_Gates

I don't think Tony Fauci would take it, though if you told him it would help to save lives he might.

Sanders is the most popular, best known among the eligible political Dems, but I think his negatives are too high with too many. And Gates could handle the negative shit thrown at him more effectively than anybody else.

I'd rather not have to have the DNC make that decision, though, Really.

[Echo4]

https://www.facebook.com/BSWIFT317/videos/10158715427746963

[bodiddley]

I'd go with Liz Warren.  I think she's fantastic.
A Hillary-Trump rematch would be good.

Or in a grand gesture ... Michelle Obama.
An Obama-Harris ticket would be ridiculously historic, and Trump would probably win against an all-Black female ticket.

[facilitatorn]

Australia (govt) has been criticised for overreacting to  Coronavirus/Covid-19....destroying its society and economy.

Trump did not overreact...but he's still being criticised.

That’s because we have nearly 200000 dead and the economy is headed for a cliff. Trump and Republicans won’t move to help people unless they get liability protection for corporations and companies who may have or is in the process of fucking over their employees.

Trump is killing more people faster and with less discrimination than any active shooter in American history. It’s time for the mythical good guys with guns to step up and end the trump threat.

Do not call for the assassination of the president.

In a well run transparent democracy I’d know for sure wether he was or wasn’t president. In our patchwork of significantly unauditable state voting systems there is no sure way of knowing what the vote counts were, how exactly they were arrived at on the margins, or wether they’d been illegally monkied with. The next test then can be does the individual in question behave as if they were president. In this case the midget in charge has met a presidential standard in maybe five instances in total during his tenure, and then only through the most baroque and absurd contrivances by his handlers. Bush was presidential enough to be termed out and face a war crimes trial or not. This guy, not so much. He’s gearing up to have a true trumpy tantrum in that office. Read some family history on this guy and tell me if that’s something you really want to see.

When they go low go high. How about when they go ballistic? Who can take his keys by nonviolent means? Anyone?

I hope I regret saying that because he has some epiphany that makes him spend the rest of the time doing the job that those who abide by our elections expect him to do rather than the job he is actually running on us.

He can’t join any club that doesn’t have his name on the door and eastern blood money backing the note. There is a Pecker file drawer of good reasons, hardly any of which are sexual, why this is true.

If any of this is too much, please delete it. I won’t bring up the subject again.

[Hairy Lime]

Because he is a proven liar.



Who?  The guy on the plane?

What guy? What plane?

[facilitatorn]

Because he is a proven liar.



Who?  The guy on the plane?

What guy? What plane?

Exactly. And without a guy or a plane it’s still a piece of propaganda contributing to further killings by right wingers almost certain to occur in the near future. That’s the sick trump brings out and Kiid embraces.

[NeedsAdjustments]

This is where we are; the law-and-order "president" has called for his supporters to commit felonies on his behalf and it gets one mention on the forum because, you know, Trump.

Not only is this a criminal administration, it has committed so many crimes that its criminality has now been thoroughly normalized.

Law and Order!

[kiidcarter8]

This is where we are; the law-and-order "president" has called for his supporters to commit felonies on his behalf and it gets one mention on the forum because, you know, Trump.




 IMPEACH FORTY-FIVE!!!!