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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #49920 on: September 10, 2020, 02:42:54 PM »
UNO

If you can control yourself - as in not cursing me out - I will keep you off the iggy.  I championed your return to the boards - I think maybe a bit more respect is due.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #49921 on: September 10, 2020, 02:45:18 PM »
Quote from: NeedsAdjustments on September 10, 2020, 02:04:25 PM
COVID deaths in Canada yesterday: 2
COVID deaths in the US yesterday: 1,044

You don't see a lack of leadership and a total non-response by the Federal Government run by one Donald Trump to be the primary driver of the above difference, you are a fucking Trump Cultist.

Saw an excellent piece - I think from CNN - on US vs Canada re:  COVID.  I'll link to it if I can.  Hope you can agree to give it a look.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/opinions/us-canada-covid-19-bociurkiw/index.html
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49922 on: September 10, 2020, 02:46:10 PM »
Trump downplayed the virus to forestall panic, yet gets on Twitter on a daily basis to yell and scream about things like  foreign "caravans" coming to kill us all.

You're a nitwit, Red.  But an educator.   
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49923 on: September 10, 2020, 02:48:14 PM »
Trump's primary tool of trade is scaring people. 
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49924 on: September 10, 2020, 02:56:56 PM »
Quote from: Yankguy1 on September 10, 2020, 02:46:10 PM
Trump downplayed the virus to forestall panic, yet gets on Twitter on a daily basis to yell and scream about things like a foreign "caravans" coming to kill us all.

You're a nitwit, Red.  But an educator.

It doesn't matter how many times it is pointed out to him that this is an obvious lie, he will repeat it because tax cuts.
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49925 on: September 10, 2020, 02:58:52 PM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on September 10, 2020, 02:39:26 PM
Trump publicly downplayed the serious of the virus to forestall panic. So did Pelosi, who knew just as much as Trump did.

You have no idea what Pelosi knew.  As I pointed out, no, the House Leader does not receive every briefing the President does.

Again, it would be a very simple, provable, and very Trump-like defense to say "Pelosi knew what I knew."   So why doesn't he say that if it is true?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #49926 on: September 10, 2020, 03:00:41 PM »
Trump downplayed the virus to forestall panic, yet gets on Twitter on a daily basis to yell and scream about things like a foreign "caravans" coming to kill us all.


heh

Been a while for that one.
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49927 on: September 10, 2020, 03:04:28 PM »
Quote from: NeedsAdjustments on September 10, 2020, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on September 10, 2020, 02:39:26 PM
Trump publicly downplayed the serious of the virus to forestall panic. So did Pelosi, who knew just as much as Trump did.

You have no idea what Pelosi knew.
Ah I see.  Pelosi was ignorant and told people there was nothing to worry about 
LOL!
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49928 on: September 10, 2020, 03:10:49 PM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on September 10, 2020, 03:04:28 PM
Ah I see.  Pelosi was ignorant and told people there was nothing to worry about 
LOL!

What Pelosi actually said re: COVID on that Chinatown visit -

“Prevention, prevention, prevention. We want people to be concerned and vigilant,” she said. “However, we don’t want them to be afraid.”

We want people to be concerned and vigilant is not saying there is nothing to worry about.

If Pelosi knew what Trump knew, why doesn't Trump say so, REDSTATEWARD?
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49929 on: September 10, 2020, 03:12:58 PM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on September 10, 2020, 02:39:26 PM
So did Pelosi, who knew just as much as Trump did.
So did Fauci who knew more that both Trump and Pelosi knew 


Pelosi did not know just as much as Trump did, no matter how often you repeat the claim that she did.

Fauci downplayed masks initially, then changed what he said. I disagree with his (and CDC's) choice to not push masks, even if I understand the reasoning.

Trump downplayed masks for months longer.  Months. And he is doing it again, now. NOT THE SAME, Asshole.

Trump claimed the coronavirus would just go away and that our 15 cases would be cured and that would be the end of it.

Fauci was busy warning us to prepare for a bigger problem.

It has nothing to do with my understanding of our government and everything to do with your being a lying sack of manure.
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49930 on: September 10, 2020, 03:13:26 PM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on September 10, 2020, 02:45:18 PM
Quote from: NeedsAdjustments on September 10, 2020, 02:04:25 PM
COVID deaths in Canada yesterday: 2
COVID deaths in the US yesterday: 1,044

You don't see a lack of leadership and a total non-response by the Federal Government run by one Donald Trump to be the primary driver of the above difference, you are a fucking Trump Cultist.

Saw an excellent piece - I think from CNN - on US vs Canada re:  COVID.  I'll link to it if I can.  Hope you can agree to give it a look.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/opinions/us-canada-covid-19-bociurkiw/index.html

Thanks for the link kiidcarter8.  So...

- Better risk communication from leadership
- Better compliance with rules including mask wearing
- A more robust financial safety net
- Prioritization of science over political spin
- Widespread testing and contact tracing
- Total border closure starting on March 22
- Comforting daily briefings from their Prime Minister emphasizing national unity.

I think my post above stands.
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49931 on: September 10, 2020, 03:15:50 PM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on September 10, 2020, 03:00:41 PM
Trump downplayed the virus to forestall panic, yet gets on Twitter on a daily basis to yell and scream about things like a foreign "caravans" coming to kill us all.


heh

Been a while for that one.

And yet in no year of his administration has Trump refrained from trying to generate panic over some sort of boogeyman which turns out to be largely unsupported by the facts as they come out.  That is the behavior of an authoritarian grasping power, not of a good leader of a democratic nation. 

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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49932 on: September 10, 2020, 03:19:15 PM »
Quote from: josh on September 10, 2020, 03:12:58 PM
Trump downplayed masks for months longer.  Months. And he is doing it again, now. NOT THE SAME, Asshole.

It has to be said, he not only downplayed masks, he actively sabotaged compliance by making wearing one a political litmus test.

 
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Re: Anti-Trump Administration
« Reply #49933 on: September 10, 2020, 03:31:16 PM »
Quote from: NeedsAdjustments on September 10, 2020, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: josh on September 10, 2020, 03:12:58 PM
Trump downplayed masks for months longer.  Months. And he is doing it again, now. NOT THE SAME, Asshole.

It has to be said, he not only downplayed masks, he actively sabotaged compliance by making wearing one a political litmus test.

And added to that by mocking Biden for wearing one, which he has done repeatedly.
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« Reply #49934 on: September 10, 2020, 03:33:12 PM »
Quote from: kiidcarter8 on September 10, 2020, 11:27:17 AM
Fuck you, Trump, and fuck you, GOP, and a fuck you to anyone who votes for or has voted for these treasonous bastards.


GAME ON.

Kiid has been fucking himself and all those around him for decades. When it comes to being a little fuck wad and being fucked, Kiid has been training and practicing and he is more than ready for the moment.

The repugnant crooks and goons he supports have forfeited their citizenship and their freedom.
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