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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55605 on: November 02, 2020, 08:09:19 PM »

Let's go!!


https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/02/politics/eric-trump-donald-trump-jr-fact-check/index.html


https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/02/politics/fact-check-michigan-auto-jobs-trump-obama/index.html

Daniel Dale - you wlll be the first one I laugh at if Trump wins.  I told you - CNN is using you - and you are better than that.
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« Reply #55606 on: November 02, 2020, 08:23:56 PM »

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« Reply #55607 on: November 02, 2020, 08:27:03 PM »

Yes. But economists.

Yes. What's your problem with that?

This is tracking statistics, not examining patients, Kid.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3722299
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« Reply #55608 on: November 02, 2020, 08:30:20 PM »

Yes. But economists.

You think Trump selecting a radiologist as an expert in epidemiology was aces.

So what's the problem?   

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55609 on: November 02, 2020, 08:32:14 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55610 on: November 02, 2020, 08:34:43 PM »

the good work Trump has done

Such as?


Scroll back

Or just fucking pay attention

I am OK with anyone that says COVID response has erased any good Trump accomplished - and even then some.  I can respect this.

Denying the pre-COVID good puts you in Idiotsville.

So, you have nothing, as usual because I pay attention very well, and you've offered nothing. So, put up or shut up, kid.

The Pre-Covid was just riding the blue economy he was given. The Pre-Covid had the Trump WH with indictments, and generals and cabinet members bolting for the exits because they realized what a disaster Trump was.  The Pre-Covid was the time to PRE-VENT the spread of Covid, and he blew that.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55611 on: November 02, 2020, 08:40:13 PM »

For the first time in 48 years the Pittsburgh Post Gazette and the Toledo (Ohio) Blade have endorsed a GOP presidential candidate (Trump).

He’s unpresidential.”

“He’s crude and unkind.”

“He’s just not a good man.”

These things, and much worse, are commonly said of President Donald Trump. His personality totally eclipses his record.

So we, seemingly, have him on the dunk tank, ready for a very cold bath.

Let’s play dump the lout.

But is this really what it’s about?

Isn’t the real question whether he has been taking the country, and the economy of this region, in the right direction these last four years?

Can we separate the man from the record?

We share the embarrassment of millions of Americans who are disturbed by the President’s unpresidential manners and character — his rudeness and put-downs and bragging and bending of the truth.

None of this can be justified. The President’s behavior has often diminished his presidency, and the presidency. Most Americans want a president who makes them proud.

We too prefer the first-class temperament and demeanor of a Winston Churchill, a Dwight Eisenhower, a Franklin Roosevelt, a Ronald Reagan, or a Barack Obama (whom this newspaper enthusiastically supported in 2008 and 2012). None of them are on the ballot this year.

Let’s look at the Trump record:

Under Donald Trump the economy, pre-Covid, boomed, like no time since the 1950s. Look at your 401(k) over the past three years.

Unemployment for black Americans is lower than it has ever been, under any president of either party.

Under Mr. Trump, our trade relationships have vastly improved and our trade deals have been rewritten. Thanks to him, middle America is on the map again, and the Appalachian and hourly worker has some hope.

Has Mr. Trump done enough for these struggling fellow citizens? No. But he recognized them. Maybe he was not articulate, but he recognized their pain.

No one ever asked the American people, or the people in “fly-over,” country if they wanted to send their jobs abroad. Until Mr. Trump. He has moved the debate, in both parties, from free trade, totally unfettered, to managed, or fair, trade. He has put America first, just as he said he would.

He also kept his promise to appoint originalists to the Supreme Court of the United States. His third appointment, Amy Coney Barrett, is the best of all — a jurist whose mind and character and scholarship ARE first-class. We hope she stands against both judicial and executive excess.

Finally, let’s talk about one of the most important concerns in this region — energy. Under Mr. Trump the United States achieved energy independence for the first time in the lifetimes of most of us.

Donald Trump is not Churchill, to be sure, but he gets things done.

He is not a unifier. He often acts like the president of his base, not the whole country. He has done nothing to lessen our divisions and has, in fact, often deepened them. The convictions and intellect of all Americans should be respected by all Americans, especially the President.

Has Mr. Trump handled the pandemic perfectly? No. But no one masters a pandemic. And the President was and is right that we must not cower before the disease, and we have to keep America open and working.

He has not listened well to people who could have helped him. He has not learned government, or shown interest in doing so.

But the Biden-Harris ticket offers us higher taxes and a nanny state that will bow to the bullies and the woke who would tear down history rather than learning from history and building up the country.

It offers an end to fracking and other Cuckoo California dreams that will cost the economy and the people who most need work right now. “Good paying green jobs,” are probably not jobs for Pittsburgh, or Cleveland, or Toledo, or Youngstown.

It offers softness on China, which Mr. Trump understands is our enemy.

Mr. Biden is too old for the job and fragile. There is a very real chance he will not make it through the term. Mr. Trump is also too old but seemingly robust. But in Mike Pence, Mr. Trump has a vice president ready to take over, if need be. He is a safe pair of hands. Kamala Harris gives no evidence of being ready to be president.

We believe Mr. Trump, for all faults, is the better choice this year. We respect and understand those who feel otherwise. We wish that we could be more enthusiastic, and we hope the President can become more dignified and statesmanlike. Each American must make up his or her own mind and do what he or she thinks is best for the community and the republic. Vote your conscience. And, whatever happens, believe in the country.


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55612 on: November 02, 2020, 08:43:25 PM »

the good work Trump has done

Such as?


Scroll back

Or just fucking pay attention

I am OK with anyone that says COVID response has erased any good Trump accomplished - and even then some.  I can respect this.

Denying the pre-COVID good puts you in Idiotsville.
You mean like how the economy grew fewer jobs, a lower GDP and proportionally slower DJ growth than the last three years of the Obama administration, the economy Trump and his supporters called a disaster? Fuck that idiotsville bull shir.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55613 on: November 02, 2020, 08:46:47 PM »

For the first time in 48 years the Pittsburgh Post Gazette and the Toledo (Ohio) Blade have endorsed a GOP presidential candidate (Trump).

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In 2018, the editorial tone of the paper shifted from liberal to conservative after the editorial pages of the paper were consolidated with the The Blade of Toledo, Ohio. After the consolidation, Keith Burris, the pro-Trump editorial page editor of The Blade, directed the editorial pages of both papers.
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« Reply #55614 on: November 02, 2020, 08:47:47 PM »

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...and bending of the truth.

Amusing phrase.

You know journalism has abandoned its professional code when it can't call out a pathological liar.   

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« Reply #55615 on: November 02, 2020, 08:50:48 PM »

Mayor Pete and the Mooch are doing the Lord’s work on fox today. They even specifically refuted the ignorant drivel Red just posted. Crashing the Obama wave on a mountain of debt, graft, and mismanagement is trump’s record 2017-2019.

Just because things were better before trump utterly fucked up our Covid response, doesn’t mean trump wasn’t already causing pain, terrible damage and loss. It’s worse now, but it wasn’t good by any measure then.


Trump has it in the bag. No need for republicans to vote at all tomorrow.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55616 on: November 02, 2020, 08:52:00 PM »

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Weren’t we supposed to watch who we told to fuck off?


Oh how we need a  “ Global Moderator” with some guts.

Volunteering for the job?
LOL
In a roomful of socialists?
My role is to point out the idiocy of the regulars.
I don’t need to use ad hominems  like you, just highlight the absurdity of their so-called “ facts”.
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« Reply #55617 on: November 02, 2020, 08:54:31 PM »

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...and bending of the truth.

Amusing phrase.

You know journalism has abandoned its professional code when it can't call out a pathological liar.
Obviously a Barton slam at reporters at CNN, NYT, WAPOST, etc.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #55618 on: November 02, 2020, 08:59:37 PM »

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Weren’t we supposed to watch who we told to fuck off?


Oh how we need a  “ Global Moderator” with some guts.

Volunteering for the job?
LOL
In a roomful of socialists?
My role is to point out the idiocy of the regulars.
I don’t need to use ad hominems  like you, just highlight the absurdity of their so-called “ facts”.
Your "role" is to provide comic relief.
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« Reply #55619 on: November 02, 2020, 09:06:44 PM »

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Weren’t we supposed to watch who we told to fuck off?


Oh how we need a  “ Global Moderator” with some guts.

Volunteering for the job?
LOL
In a roomful of socialists?
My role is to point out the idiocy of the regulars.
I don’t need to use ad hominems  like you, just highlight the absurdity of their so-called “ facts”.

He’s saying that since he can’t read he doesn’t feel qualified to moderate posts.

I agree. You should find a better candidate.
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