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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57945 on: November 23, 2020, 10:55:21 AM »

I guess knicks has me on iggy

heh


Seems kid's fraud case of Biblical proportions may have to be pursued by another lawyer.

Ms Powell apparently is too nutty for Rudy and Jenna

They listened to kid's "WHOA"

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/22/us/joe-biden-trump?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage#trump-lawyers-disavow-sidney-powell-another-member-of-his-legal-team-over-spurious-fraud-accusations

President Trump’s campaign on Sunday disavowed Sidney Powell, one of his lawyers, after she made wild accusations of Republican governors being involved in a payoff scheme to manipulate voting machines.

The extraordinary statement from Rudolph W. Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, two lawyers for Mr. Trump, about a third person who had been involved in their efforts was released Sunday evening.

“Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own,” the statement said. “She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity.”


Nah.

I just missed it when I was scrolling through...


Powell: I agree with the campaign's statement that I am not part of the campaign's legal team. I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the President or the campaign a bill for my expenses or fees. My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find

Oddly enough, when Trump announced her as part of his team, she said no such thing.

And it is clear that the she is worth every dime they are paying her, if it is true she is unpaid by Trump.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57946 on: November 23, 2020, 10:58:14 AM »

NEVADA

The new public gathering limits do not apply to school districts. Sisolak stated that the closure of schools has had a huge negative effect on students.

"We have seen more deaths by suicide among students this fall than in years prior, and it breaks my heart to share that victims have included students as young as 8 years old," Sisolak said
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57947 on: November 23, 2020, 11:45:10 AM »

I guess knicks has me on iggy

heh


Seems kid's fraud case of Biblical proportions may have to be pursued by another lawyer.

Ms Powell apparently is too nutty for Rudy and Jenna

They listened to kid's "WHOA"

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/22/us/joe-biden-trump?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage#trump-lawyers-disavow-sidney-powell-another-member-of-his-legal-team-over-spurious-fraud-accusations

President Trump’s campaign on Sunday disavowed Sidney Powell, one of his lawyers, after she made wild accusations of Republican governors being involved in a payoff scheme to manipulate voting machines.

The extraordinary statement from Rudolph W. Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, two lawyers for Mr. Trump, about a third person who had been involved in their efforts was released Sunday evening.

“Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own,” the statement said. “She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity.”


Nah.

I just missed it when I was scrolling through...


Powell: I agree with the campaign's statement that I am not part of the campaign's legal team. I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the President or the campaign a bill for my expenses or fees. My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find

Oddly enough, when Trump announced her as part of his team, she said no such thing.

And it is clear that the she is worth every dime they are paying her, if it is true she is unpaid by Trump.
Hey! Respect! Careful!

I am giving her respect of "biblical" proportions. (Did the StayPuff Marshmallow Man appear in her head when she said that, as I am sure it did to tens of thousands of others?)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57948 on: November 23, 2020, 11:51:52 AM »

NEVADA

The new public gathering limits do not apply to school districts. Sisolak stated that the closure of schools has had a huge negative effect on students.

"We have seen more deaths by suicide among students this fall than in years prior, and it breaks my heart to share that victims have included students as young as 8 years old," Sisolak said


https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2020/11/18/suicides-among-youth-adults-not-up-in-nevada-during-pandemic/
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« Reply #57949 on: November 23, 2020, 12:02:35 PM »

NEVADA

The new public gathering limits do not apply to school districts. Sisolak stated that the closure of schools has had a huge negative effect on students.

"We have seen more deaths by suicide among students this fall than in years prior, and it breaks my heart to share that victims have included students as young as 8 years old," Sisolak said


Quotes Kid, who only cares about such things when it advances his agenda.

Kid, I posted this article months ago:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/09/11/youth-suicide-rate-increases-cdc-report-finds/3463549001/

You had nothing to say about it then.

This is from a couple weeks ago:
https://nypost.com/2020/11/09/us-suicide-attempts-have-increased-11-since-2015-study/

Elsewhere:
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Monday's conference also addressed what Hoffman called twin crises -- the virus itself and youth suicide. In 2019, there were 38 suicides in Arizona among those under age 17. This year, there have already been 43.
~AZFamily.com

But it is not uniform:
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There does not yet appear to be an overall change in the suspected suicide rate in the 7 months since Queensland declared a public health emergency. Despite this, COVID-19 has contributed to some suspected suicides in Queensland. Ongoing community spread and increasing death rates of COVID-19, and its impact on national economies and mental health, reinforces the need for governments to maintain the monitoring and reporting of suicide mortality in real time.
~The Lancet

This, absurdly enough, is the best discussion I have read on it:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/20/yout-n20.html

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New data from a nationwide survey of young Americans, ages 18-24, has shed further light on the scale of the unfolding mental health crisis. The survey, “The State of the Nation,” examined depressive symptoms among these young adults, including thoughts of suicide, generalized anxiety and disruption in sleep.

Overall, across four national waves (in late May, late June, late August and mid-October), researchers found alarming rates of depression, with nearly half of this young adult population—47.3 percent—showing at least moderate depressive symptoms in October, the highest level since June.

This figure is close to 10 times the pre-pandemic rate, which was already staggering.

The source of this crisis is no mystery. The youthful years are meant to be a time filled with hope, optimism and idealism. For those coming of age in 2020, this time presents itself instead as a nightmare.

Young people have suffered immensely from isolation, not being able to see their friends and socialize in the way that is so necessary for healthy human development. Those who are a bit older have watched the death toll from the virus climb each day, in disbelief, as it now surpasses a quarter of a million people.

They have heard the stories, or know first-hand, of the social misery taking place—people dying alone in hospital beds without a loved one allowed in the room to say goodbye. Millions have themselves waited with their parents in the food lines that stretch for miles. Others have lost their homes, ruthlessly evicted even as millions more are added to the list of unemployed each month.

They have been violently shaken into adulthood watching their parents suffer from the anxiety, grief and depression brought on by the economic catastrophe sweeping the country.

There are millions of working-class parents and young people struggling to survive who are looking for answers to this immense crisis. They want what is best for their children and are willing to sacrifice whatever is necessary to secure for them a safe environment and hopeful future.

In this context, the Democratic and Republican parties, aided by their mouthpieces in the bourgeois media, are attempting to exploit the severe mental health crisis among youth, and the anxiety felt by parents, to force the reopening of schools on the basis that the “cure cannot be worse than the disease.”



The failure of Congress and the President to provide aid  - and not just the PPP - to families and the failure of the president to provide national leadership on COVID-19 has exacerbated the problem, though I freely grant that determining how much impact what has on what is pretty tough.

But with more than a million kids already diagnosed with COVID-19 and no measure to actually improve the lives of the majority of Americans who are struggling financially, just putting the kids back in school won't solve the depression problem that leads to those suicides.

And as the AZ family piece makes clear, the problem before the pandemic was far worse and insufficiently addressed.
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« Reply #57950 on: November 23, 2020, 12:03:42 PM »

The CDC said in a statement that it is "working hard to address the threat of covid-19 among racial and ethnic minority groups" by expanding testing for at-risk groups, increasing engagement with "trusted racial and ethnic minority servicing organizations" including Black colleges and universities and churches, and working to get better data.

Yet some early efforts to address inequities were quashed: The CDC had internal discussions for example, about ways to increase testing in African American and other hard-hit communities. On May 3, a document posted on its website recommended that people from "racial and ethnic minority groups disproportionately affected by adverse covid-19 outcomes" get priority for testing.

Three days later, the language was removed.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/20/covid-race-mortality-rate/
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« Reply #57951 on: November 23, 2020, 12:05:55 PM »

NEVADA

The new public gathering limits do not apply to school districts. Sisolak stated that the closure of schools has had a huge negative effect on students.

"We have seen more deaths by suicide among students this fall than in years prior, and it breaks my heart to share that victims have included students as young as 8 years old," Sisolak said


https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2020/11/18/suicides-among-youth-adults-not-up-in-nevada-during-pandemic/

Thank you, Larry! I hadn't seen that.

As my article from AZFamily noted, youth suicide is up in some places.

This is the study that the World Socialist Website linked in their discussion:
http://www.kateto.net/covid19/COVID19%20CONSORTIUM%20REPORT%2023%20MENTAL%20HEALTH%20NOV%202020.pdf
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« Reply #57952 on: November 23, 2020, 12:13:21 PM »

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« Reply #57953 on: November 23, 2020, 01:00:24 PM »

I think it's a given that any public crisis can adversely affect mental health and that suicide rates go up when mental health declines in any population.  Think of all the factors in play that generate anxiety/depression - job loss, increased poverty, soaring debt, erratic behavior in leaders, home loss, grief (due to rising mortality), fear for the future, and isolation.  So it's important to understand that isolation is one of many factors here.  We should be expending society's resources on all of those and not just assume packing kids into a schoolroom will solve the whole mental health picture. 
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« Reply #57954 on: November 23, 2020, 01:05:28 PM »

We should be expending society's resources on all of those and not just assume packing kids into a schoolroom will solve the whole mental health picture.
Huh?
We are sending kids to classrooms to learn.
Keeping them at home does not achieve  that.
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« Reply #57955 on: November 23, 2020, 01:26:13 PM »

Meanwhile this is interesting...

https://twitter.com/herschelwalker/status/1330685185814310912?s=12

Why is it interesting?

Herschel Walker is one more person who has bought into the conspiracy theory. Nothing more or less.

Well, he took a lot of hits to his head.
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« Reply #57956 on: November 23, 2020, 01:27:48 PM »

Or want to pump kin full of virus.


I think we need to squash that kind of humor.
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« Reply #57957 on: November 23, 2020, 01:29:55 PM »

We should be expending society's resources on all of those and not just assume packing kids into a schoolroom will solve the whole mental health picture.
Huh?
We are sending kids to classrooms to learn.
Keeping them at home does not achieve  that.

Speaking of taking "a lot of hits to the head"...
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« Reply #57958 on: November 23, 2020, 01:31:33 PM »

Trump-backed miracle drug approved by FDA
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« Reply #57959 on: November 23, 2020, 01:36:47 PM »

At a Target in Tulsa, somebody has too much time on their hands.
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