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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

http://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/27/toke-lahoma-cannabis-market-oklahoma-red-state-weed-legalization-437782

[facilitatorn]

http://thebulwark.com/how-to-use-anti-kkk-laws-to-prosecute-trump/

[REDSTATEWARD]

Red seems to have a difficult time grasping the idea that the Constitution can be interpreted differently by those with different perspectives, as new circumstances are called on to be adjudicated.

While the recent 5-4 vote upheld the right of religious congregations to assemble with no restrictions as to the # of congregants, despite the heightened risks of spreading disease they may pose to society, that vote likely would have been 5-4 the other way if held 6 months ago without Justice Serena Joy on the court.

Article One would still have been a nice starting point but I'm not sure Red would cite it to affirm that hypothetical SC decision.

Red also fails to consider that restrictions applied even MORE vigorously to businesses in NY,  so it's really hard to argue churches or temples were singled out on a basis prejudicial towards religion.   And other case precedents  have affirmed that restrictions applied generally across society are not a discriminatory abridgement of religious worship.

Yup.

I get that restricions on attendence at religious observations is tricky stuff as it goes to the heart of why this country was founded.

But if the Consitution starts with,

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare

If we can accept that our founding fathers put primacy on "insuring domestic tranquility" and "promoting the general welfare" is it a leap to think they could accept limitations on religious gatherings to help stop a fucking plague from killing us?

Constitutional religious freedom has never meant "freedom from all secular law."  If gatherings are generally banned, then no group is excepted from that ban.  If murder is illegal, you can't gather at the Church of Quetzlcoatl and slaughter three virgins to appease angry volcanoes and claim you have religious freedom to do so.

What “ secular” law are you referring to in this case?

[bankshot1]

Red seems to have a difficult time grasping the idea that the Constitution can be interpreted differently by those with different perspectives, as new circumstances are called on to be adjudicated.

While the recent 5-4 vote upheld the right of religious congregations to assemble with no restrictions as to the # of congregants, despite the heightened risks of spreading disease they may pose to society, that vote likely would have been 5-4 the other way if held 6 months ago without Justice Serena Joy on the court.

Article One would still have been a nice starting point but I'm not sure Red would cite it to affirm that hypothetical SC decision.

Red also fails to consider that restrictions applied even MORE vigorously to businesses in NY,  so it's really hard to argue churches or temples were singled out on a basis prejudicial towards religion.   And other case precedents  have affirmed that restrictions applied generally across society are not a discriminatory abridgement of religious worship.

Yup.

I get that restricions on attendence at religious observations is tricky stuff as it goes to the heart of why this country was founded.

But if the Consitution starts with,

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare

If we can accept that our founding fathers put primacy on "insuring domestic tranquility" and "promoting the general welfare" is it a leap to think they could accept limitations on religious gatherings to help stop a fucking plague from killing us?

Constitutional religious freedom has never meant "freedom from all secular law."  If gatherings are generally banned, then no group is excepted from that ban.  If murder is illegal, you can't gather at the Church of Quetzlcoatl and slaughter three virgins to appease angry volcanoes and claim you have religious freedom to do so.

What “ secular” law are you referring to in this case?

LOL

[bankshot1]

It had to be done!

[kidcarter8]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-11-27-20-intl/h_3f48a9348fe71b1d6be9dd6ae374431e

Youth Basketball Tournament leads to COVID-19 cases.

What could go wrong?!

Why does the GOP want so many people to get sick and possibly die from this disease?!

The GOP invented Basketball?

Statistics would show that most of those at the tournament were Biden voters

[bankshot1]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-11-27-20-intl/h_3f48a9348fe71b1d6be9dd6ae374431e

Youth Basketball Tournament leads to COVID-19 cases.

What could go wrong?!

Why does the GOP want so many people to get sick and possibly die from this disease?!

The GOP invented Basketball?

Statistics would show that most of those at the tournament were Biden voters

Kid-You may know Rocklin far better than I do, but using Google I found that Rocklin is located in Placer County, Ca


https://www.rocklin.ca.us/news/find-election-results

and that link provides another link which provides following 2020 election data

https://www.placerelections.com/election-night-results/


PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT      
Total
Number of Precincts      127   
Precincts Reporting      127   100.00%
Vote For      1   
Total Votes      228,677
   
DONALD J. TRUMP / MICHAEL R. PENCE   REP   119,013   52.04%

JOSEPH R. BIDEN / KAMALA D. HARRIS   DEM   104,134   45.54%

JO JORGENSEN / JEREMY “SPIKE” COHEN   LIB   3,821   1.67%
HOWIE HAWKINS / ANGELA NICOLE WALKER   GRN   754   0.33%
ROQUE “ROCKY” DE LA FUENTE GUERRA / KANYE OMARI WEST   AIP   569   0.25%
GLORIA LA RIVA / SUNIL FREEMAN   PFP   325   0.14%
Write-in Votes      61   0.03%
JESSE VENTURA / CYNTHIA MCKINNEY      0   0.00%
BROCK PIERCE / KARLA BALLARD      0   0.00%
JOSEPH KISHORE / NORISSA SANTA CRUZ      0   0.00%
MARK CHARLES / ADRIAN WALLACE      0   0.00%
BRIAN CARROLL / AMAR PATEL      0   0.00

Seem Trump won and Placer and Rocklin has a R in the House.

So kid what stats are you relying on to make the assertion that Rocklin went for Biden?

[facilitatorn]

Kiid is relying on his belief that most republicans do not have the mental capacity to follow or participate in a game of basketball.

He believes they prefer sports that involve nothing more complicated than turning left or spoiling a perfectly good walk (with carts, naturally).

I don’t think there have been scientific studies done on this, but if there were this belief would likely be confirmed.

[barton]

http://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/27/toke-lahoma-cannabis-market-oklahoma-red-state-weed-legalization-437782

All true.   Lots of yokels and assorted rednecks love to burn one.   As pot smoking spreads through conservative states,  I can see a possible shift to less hawkish policies,  as it becomes harder and harder to muster an army.   "Enlist?   What are y'all talkin about -- I'm listening to my Tame Impala track and there's scones baking in the oven, man.   And my clock says 420!"  It's  always 420 somewhere,  if you use local solar time.   

Somebody toss Ward a sardine.

[bankshot1]

Kiid is relying on his belief that most republicans do not have the mental capacity to follow or participate in a game of basketball.

He believes they prefer sports that involve nothing more complicated than turning left or spoiling a perfectly good walk (with carts, naturally).

I don’t think there have been scientific studies done on this, but if there were this belief would likely be confirmed.

Fac-I'm thinking kid's thinking on hoops is not that nuanced, it might be more black and white.
 

[kidcarter8]

Kiid is relying on his belief that most republicans do not have the mental capacity to follow or participate in a game of basketball.

He believes they prefer sports that involve nothing more complicated than turning left or spoiling a perfectly good walk (with carts, naturally).

I don’t think there have been scientific studies done on this, but if there were this belief would likely be confirmed.

Axe throwing as well.

[bankshot1]

Speaking of axe-throwing and ass-kicking

Trump's ass got kicked again.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/27/us/joe-biden-trump?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage#a-federal-appeals-court-denies-the-trump-campaigns-challenge-to-a-lower-court-loss-on-certifying-pennsylvanias-vote


In a blistering decision, a Philadelphia appeals court denied on Friday the Trump campaign’s attempt to challenge a lower court loss that had sought to stop — or even reverse — the certification of election results in Pennsylvania.

The 21-page ruling by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals was a complete repudiation of Mr. Trump’s effort to halt Pennsylvania’s certification process and a full-throated affirmation of a decision last Saturday by Judge Matthew W. Brann of Federal District Court in Williamsport, Penn., who dealt the Trump campaign its initial defeat in the case.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote on behalf of the appeals court. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”

ASS KICKED COMPLETELY

[kidcarter8]

Trump's ass got kicked again.


Keeping both sides of the scoreboard would be nice - but I understand this is not your quest or your meaning.

[kidcarter8]

AP link

https://news.yahoo.com/us-appeals-court-rejects-trump-174135482.html

Just part of the process

Trump always expected it to go to SCOTUS

Trump perhaps hopes a Supreme Court he helped steer toward a conservative 6-3 majority would be more open to his pleas, especially since the high court upheld Pennsylvania’s decision to accept mail-in ballots through Nov. 6 by only a 4-4 vote last month. Since then, Trump nominee Amy Coney Barrett has joined the court.

[bankshot1]

Trump's ass got kicked again.


Keeping both sides of the scoreboard would be nice - but I understand this is not your quest or your meaning.

Trump lost the popular vote by 6 million votes

He lost the EC by a substantisl margin

He has lost in court challenge after court challenge to contest the election as rigged

He has been repudiated by the voters and the courts and Republican state officials and Republican (Trump) appointed judges doing their jobs as they saw fit.

What side of the ass-kicking scoreboard in the context of my post would you like me consider?

SC justices picked 3

SC justices he should have picked 2

SC justice he would have picked without Russian interference and help 0


He may have one more shot at destroying the SC with an appeal.

If they were wise they would pass on his merit-less fantasies and delusions

and refer him to a psychiatric practice to get the remedy he really needs