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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bankshot1]

Again...trying to be nice, but only total dumbshits think there was no Dem fraud in the presidential.

Some know but won't say.  Makes them just a little smarter.

I want to stay away as much as I can from further talking about members of the forum rather than issues. 

here's an issue for you kid

1-destroying mail-sorting machines
2-cutting back on over time for mail delivery
3-letting mail and packages go undelivered for days
4-removing mail boxes
5-restricting ballot drop-off locations

would those steps threaten the ability of Americans to vote safely and avoid the crowds at health risks at polling stations, and act to suppress the vote?

why would a Republican administration want to suppress votes?

why would a Republican admin want to put people at risk by forcing them to wait in lines for hours versus signing and mailing a ballot?

There has been no evidence of organied voter fraud by Dems but there has been ample evidence for years of Republican voter suppression that imapcts millions of voters.

Why is that?

Discuss.

then off to sleepy-land its way past your bed-time.

[facilitatorn]

What cheats, loses, and then quifes constantly about the other side cheating?

A republican.

[Kam]

Just nod and smile at the crazy person... there are no reasonable republicans here to debate with. Only radical right republicans.

[LarryBnDC]

I want to stay away as much as I can from further talking about members of the forum rather than issues.  I fear for everyon'es health here and dont wish to contribute any more forum angst.

Here's to no more flames - no more battery in cities.  And here's to businesses surviving.

Kid has given up on the coup now that so many plotters have the Covid

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/29/1998927/-Organizer-of-anti-COVID-lockdown-rallies-in-PA-tests-positive-DURING-meeting-in-White-House

The Biden cure is coming to end the ravages of the trump disease.

Strong progressive policies will vaccinate us from the deadly republican virus.

It's sad how many get this disease.

Sadder still when anyone is mocked for it.

But you're a comic - comic on, Fac

Sad?

It’s criminal.

[LarryBnDC]

Again...trying to be nice, but only total dumbshits think there was no Dem fraud in the presidential.

Some know but won't say.  Makes them just a little smarter.

Don’t laugh too hard at our boy because there are a whole lot of folks who KNOW the Democrats cheated.

Notice which votes are being targeted?

Take a look around...

[facilitatorn]

The cracker kakistocracy is crumbling. When loyal crackers agreed to be buggered by lecherous old men with a taste for dumb assholes, they were promised a thousand year reich in exchange.

Of course they feel cheated now that they’ve lost power. They’ve sustained major ass damage with nothing to show for it.

It’s no major concern of the sizable majority who didn’t and would never bend over like that for the dream of a white nation. It’s just another reason the sick crazy bastards will loose their fucking minds and individually or collectively do something terrible which they already do with very little reason and often for no reason at all.

I expect Kid to OD, eat a gun, or shoot up a school in the next twelve months simply because that’s what useless crackers do.

[facilitatorn]

Overcome the soft bigotry of low expectations, Kid.

Renounce Satan.

Join the human race.

[bodiddley]

- Biden got 80 million votes - while there was a record clack and Hispanic turnout for Trump
- Biden won despite losing most bellwether counties
- Biden trailed Clinton - except in a select few cities
- Biden won despite Dem losses everywhere else
- Biden overcame Trump's commanding primary vote
Magic.

I read a full article last week trying to make all these points sound unlikely because Biden isn't that popular.  But of course huge turnout was largely due to anti-Trump sentiment and the virus which is raging.  People felt a need for good government again.  Funny that kiid doesn't question how Trump got an additional 10M votes over 2016 despite being a terrible president, totally ineffective with the disease, a loudmouth boorish jerk everyday, etc.  And still turnout was only 66%, so 1/3 of eligible voters still didn't turnout despite the existential threat and strong polarization and politicization.

Paradoxically the virus led to easier voting in many states.  Which no doubt helped turnout in some states.  In NJ for instance, you didn't have to leave your home to vote.  A mail-in ballot was sent to every registered voter.   And since it had pre-paid postage, you could just stick it in your mailbox for postal pickup.  Or go to a drop box and not have to interact with anyone.

As for more votes in Milwaukee and Philadelphia and Atlanta -- these were highly contested states, where the Dems poured a lot of resources into.  Including Abrams well-regarded efforts. 
And of course Trump helped turn out a lot more voters for both sides.

How come it's not suspicious that Trump got 10M more votes while completely mishandling an epidemic, letting the economy crash, being hugely presidential, stirring up racial animosity, etc?
As for those supposed bellwether counties, they might want to update their formula as many were in OH and FLA which weren't particularly close, with OH a fairly solid Red state for now.

But so far there is no evidence of fraud.
And no mistakes or fraud that would change a single state.
But basically the allegations of fraud have been very tenuous, generalized.
Look at the court filings to see what's really being alleged, and not the exaggerated propagandized bloviating.

Much of the Trump arguments are on par with Rudy's 'I went to sleep when Trump had a big lead and woke up and it had disappeared. How'd that happen?'

[bodiddley]

Forty-four states have set weekly case records, and 25 states have set weekly death records in November

And we have the Thanksgiving gatherings/transmissions to get through over the next few weeks.
Plus the likely cold-weather seasonality typical of flus.

Gonna get uglier before it gets better.
For whatever reason, Trump Admin never tried to make things better or mitigate the harm (and deaths).

Can't wait for vaccines and Biden Admin to alleviate the duffering.

[Kam]

- Biden won despite Dem losses everywhere else

Exactly.  Proof of no fraud.  How could Dem's not have won everywhere else if they have THE POWER TO FLIP VOTES!

[josh]

As you all have pointed out to me repeatedly, there is nothing to be gained by pointing out facts or reasoning.

[facilitatorn]

Dems won everywhere else.

If trump we’re on the ballot in 2018, he’d have lost then as well by a similar or larger margin.

Dems won more seats in the House than republicans yet again.

Dems won 1-3 more seats in the senate than the republicans did.

Governorships and state legislatures were the bright spots for a federally repudiated GOP.

Full bore turnout efforts will bring those races better outcomes with wins for Democrats starting in 2022. By 2030, you’ll be hard pressed to find a republican anywhere but a crack den, a mental institution, or an old folks’ home.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/we-will-exterminate-you-proud-boys-and-other-right-wing-trump-diehards-clash-with-counter-protesters-at-raleigh-rally/

A little short of the million moron March nimrods like Kid would hope to see turn out for a cracker fest in North Carolina.

[Kam]

http://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/we-will-exterminate-you-proud-boys-and-other-right-wing-trump-diehards-clash-with-counter-protesters-at-raleigh-rally/

A little short of the million moron March nimrods like Kid would hope to see turn out for a cracker fest in North Carolina.

Redneck morons who give other rednecks a bad name.

[bambu.]

Must be time for Australia to boot all China's embassy staff out of Australia...all of them, including the big wigs.
Then slap huge tariffs...200% like China has done.
China won't answer the phone, so block its lines...bye bye...no more phone calls.
Only respond to emails, or letters...none come, none to respond to.
Must be time to take back all Australian assets bought by China, including the port of Darwin, send them a cheque for a fair price.
In fact, might as well ban all imports from China...clean air is overrated, not worth the hassle.

Joe is going to have to deal with China, whether he likes to or not.