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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60900 on: December 22, 2020, 10:50:25 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on December 22, 2020, 10:45:54 PM
Trump wants more $$ for Barton to shit on

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-threatens-to-veto-massive-covid-bill

$2000 to everybody is better than $600 to only the needy, because the needy will get $1400 more.

Barton's point stands, whether it is $600 or $2000.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60901 on: December 22, 2020, 11:02:55 PM »
Why would Trump want to put Senate Repubs in a position to vote against $2k for the common folk?

Will the party of Scrooge see 3-ghosts and vote aye? .

The blowback in Ga of Senate Repubs arguing against $2k in releif would seem anti-Repub.

The upside of this from the Trump perspective escapes me.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60902 on: December 22, 2020, 11:05:03 PM »
Quote from: josh on December 22, 2020, 10:50:25 PM
Quote from: kidcarter8 on December 22, 2020, 10:45:54 PM
Trump wants more $$ for Barton to shit on

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-threatens-to-veto-massive-covid-bill

$2000 to everybody is better than $600 to only the needy, because the needy will get $1400 more.

Barton's point stands, whether it is $600 or $2000.
LOL!
There is no “Barton point.”
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60903 on: December 22, 2020, 11:08:02 PM »
Quote from: bankshot1 on December 22, 2020, 11:02:55 PM
Why would Trump want to put Senate Repubs in a position to vote against $2k for the common folk?

Will the party of Scrooge see 3-ghosts and vote aye? .

The blowback in Ga of Senate Repubs arguing against $2k in releif would seem anti-Repub.

The upside of this from the Trump perspective escapes me.

McConnell congratulated Biden.

Trump is setting fires...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60904 on: December 22, 2020, 11:13:47 PM »
Quote from: LarryBnDC on December 22, 2020, 11:08:02 PM
Quote from: bankshot1 on December 22, 2020, 11:02:55 PM
Why would Trump want to put Senate Repubs in a position to vote against $2k for the common folk?

Will the party of Scrooge see 3-ghosts and vote aye? .

The blowback in Ga of Senate Repubs arguing against $2k in releif would seem anti-Repub.

The upside of this from the Trump perspective escapes me.

McConnell congratulated Biden.

Trump is setting fires...

This is almost pure scorched earth on Trump's part. Which should scare the fuck out of everyone even the brain-dead Trump partisans on our tiny Elbanese paradise.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60905 on: December 22, 2020, 11:16:03 PM »
The upside of this from the Trump perspective escapes me.


Doing what he feels is right - as usual

Trump wanted a 2 tril package all along while Mitch was standing on 900 bil.

GENUINE.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60906 on: December 22, 2020, 11:17:03 PM »
Quote from: josh on December 17, 2020, 05:39:36 PM
The FDA's committee has recommended Moderna's vaccine.

The FDA will likely act on it tomorrow or over the weekend, approving.

Then we will have two, with Astra-Veneca coming around soon after, perhaps. Those plus the anti-body treatment may mean we can keep US deaths under 600,000, but I doubt it.

I would expect us to pass  WWII in deaths about Jan 22, Civil War in deaths in 4 months, and the 1918 pandemic by the end of May, unless our efficiency of getting people vaccinated improves a ton.

Note that my predictions are more pessimistic than IHME's, but that I view them as conservative (2,500 deaths per day on average) - before the end of March seems more likely for passing the Civil War and April 17th for the 1918 Spanish Flu (based on 3,000 deaths per day on average through that April date).

And even that feels too optimistic.

We do, now, have two vaccines approved, though one is only for 18+ and the other for 16+. We also have a new, faster spreading mutation of the virus and we don't yet know if any of the vaccines works for it, but that is now being tested for the first two out of the gates.

IHME's prediction for Jan 22 deaths now aligns with mine. Their daily death average is now up to 2434 from Dec. 6 to April 1. I'm only predicting 60,000 more deaths by April 1 than they are.

Kid wants to call that morbid.

Morbid is this jackass of a president making things worse while pretending to make things better now.

It is better to pass this stimulus package and get it moving with an additional package to follow than to kill this one in the hopes a better one can be negotiated later.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60907 on: December 22, 2020, 11:17:44 PM »
In the mad affair between trump and McConnell, it is only their tiffs that have ever worked out in America’s benefit. Otherwise it has been a marriage of bad ideas and no conscience, two wet stank piles of elephant turd sloppily converging to blot out the sun.

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« Reply #60908 on: December 22, 2020, 11:18:35 PM »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60909 on: December 22, 2020, 11:20:37 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on December 22, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
The upside of this from the Trump perspective escapes me.


Doing what he feels is right - as usual

Trump wanted a 2 tril package all along while Mitch was standing on 900 bil.

GENUINE.

No, but you can keep pretending.

If he wanted the 2 tril package "all along," he could have held up the spending bills on it. He didn't.

He could have been aggressively pushed for them since the election. He hasn't, spending far more time, energy, money, and political capital chasing his faux-fraud claims which even Newsmax now admits they have seen no evidence of.

Only you, Kid, think there is some kind of concrete evidence out there supporting Trump's claims.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60910 on: December 22, 2020, 11:22:33 PM »
Press wasn't covering it - due to it being positive Trump-based news

Now, with the potential veto - they are forced to

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60911 on: December 22, 2020, 11:22:42 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on December 22, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
The upside of this from the Trump perspective escapes me.


Doing what he feels is right - as usual

Trump wanted a 2 tril package all along while Mitch was standing on 900 bil.

GENUINE.

SUCKER
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60912 on: December 22, 2020, 11:22:55 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on December 22, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
The upside of this from the Trump perspective escapes me.


Doing what he feels is right - as usual

Trump wanted a 2 tril package all along while Mitch was standing on 900 bil.

GENUINE.

Trump and McConnell sat on the Dems $2.6T plan for over 6 months while America was dieing. For Trump to come in at the 11th hour and threaten to kill the deal, as inadequate as it is, is a curious "fuck you" to McConnell and the Repubs and America, 

He only cares about himself and the power he has to fuck things up, which should be a frightening prospect as we go into the last month of the madman's term,
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60913 on: December 22, 2020, 11:23:50 PM »
Quote from: facilitatorn on December 22, 2020, 11:17:44 PM
In the mad affair between trump and McConnell, it is only their tiffs that have ever worked out in America’s benefit. Otherwise it has been a marriage of bad ideas and no conscience, two wet stank piles of elephant turd sloppily converging to blot out the sun.

McConnell and the GOP cast their lot with this guy in return for tax cuts and judges. They saved his ass from impeachment and now he has thrown the GOP under the bus.

Remember his poem, “The Snake?”

The GO.P knew when they chose him he was a snake.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60914 on: December 22, 2020, 11:25:04 PM »
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