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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[LarryBnDC]

Knicks

could you be more specific, what would you like the Dems to do for African-Americans?

Do you really think the broad Democratic coaltion does not view equal opportunity as a core party goal and driving principle? 

Seriously what the fuck do you want?

OH FOR FUCK’S SAKES!

An apple a day keeps the doctor away, dig?

For years conservatives run the “Democratic Plantation” bullshit as in “Why do Black people vote Democratic? What have the ever done FOR you? All the horrible inner cities are run by Democrsts, blah, blah, blah.”

I must have posted that same old bromide a thousand times before and NOW you want get your ass up on your shoulders?

Get the fuck out of here with that “What do I want?” Bullshit.

[LarryBnDC]

I'd say there are any number of issues that could be used to refute the contention that Democrats "don't do shit" for black people, but its certainly off when the first thing a Democratic House did was pass legislation to counter Republican efforts to disenfranchise black voters.

One issue where Democrats and the interests of black people are not aligned are Charter Schools. But opposition to them isn't across the board, and where it does exist its an attempt to protect traditional public schools which certainly have done more than "shit" for the African American community.

All that said, I suspect LarryBnDC (DC...its Democrats that support its largely African American citizens getting seats in congress) was exaggerating for effect.

I’ve put my mind, body and money to work for Democrats since I volunteered on Tom Downey’s 1974 campaign.


Charter schools and vouchers are at bottom a scheme to privatize public education, that’s not to say some of them are not doing good work.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Charter schools and vouchers are at bottom a scheme to privatize public education

Vouchers?  Yes.

Charter Schools?  No.

[facilitatorn]

Vouchers and Charters both yes

Magnet, Specialty, and Alternative programs all do what Charters pretend to. In fact it is where Charters went to find their ideas backin the 90’s. I was there as IT guy and computer teacher when the Gates foundation crew was finishing its study of our school. Charters set out to do the same things those programs do but fall even further short because they are skimming their resources for profits. They do provide a way for immoral investors to attack public teachers’ unions and make a buck at the same time.

[LarryBnDC]

Charter schools and vouchers are at bottom a scheme to privatize public education

Vouchers?  Yes.

Charter Schools?  No.

Eh, we disagree.

[bankshot1]

Knicks

could you be more specific, what would you like the Dems to do for African-Americans?

Do you really think the broad Democratic coaltion does not view equal opportunity as a core party goal and driving principle? 

Seriously what the fuck do you want?

OH FOR FUCK’S SAKES!

An apple a day keeps the doctor away, dig?

For years conservatives run the “Democratic Plantation” bullshit as in “Why do Black people vote Democratic? What have the ever done FOR you? All the horrible inner cities are run by Democrsts, blah, blah, blah.”

I must have posted that same old bromide a thousand times before and NOW you want get your ass up on your shoulders?

Get the fuck out of here with that “What do I want?” Bullshit.

Go fuck yourself.

What is it that you want the Dems to do for you?

It was your fucking observation.

Back it up.

What do you want?

Answer the fucking question asshole or STFU.

[LarryBnDC]

Knicks

could you be more specific, what would you like the Dems to do for African-Americans?

Do you really think the broad Democratic coaltion does not view equal opportunity as a core party goal and driving principle? 

Seriously what the fuck do you want?

OH FOR FUCK’S SAKES!

An apple a day keeps the doctor away, dig?

For years conservatives run the “Democratic Plantation” bullshit as in “Why do Black people vote Democratic? What have the ever done FOR you? All the horrible inner cities are run by Democrsts, blah, blah, blah.”

I must have posted that same old bromide a thousand times before and NOW you want get your ass up on your shoulders?

Get the fuck out of here with that “What do I want?” Bullshit.

Go fuck yourself.

What is it that you want the Dems to do for you?

It was your fucking observation.

Back it up.

What do you want?

Answer the fucking question asshole or STFU.

Fuck off yourself. You took a gibe and want to make a federal case out of it?

Fuck you. Go get a hobby beside being the Larry police. I haven’t forgotten you went off for two weeks wanting me to agree MLK was revered in life.

Look back through what’s left of this fora and I GUARAN-DAMN-TEE I’ve said on more than a dozen occasions,

“Dems won’t do shit for you, but Republicans will do shit TO you!”


And if you don’t understand that IT IS YOUR PROBLEM and it ain’t my job to explain what you don’t get.

[bankshot1]

Knicks

could you be more specific, what would you like the Dems to do for African-Americans?

Do you really think the broad Democratic coaltion does not view equal opportunity as a core party goal and driving principle? 

Seriously what the fuck do you want?

OH FOR FUCK’S SAKES!

An apple a day keeps the doctor away, dig?

For years conservatives run the “Democratic Plantation” bullshit as in “Why do Black people vote Democratic? What have the ever done FOR you? All the horrible inner cities are run by Democrsts, blah, blah, blah.”

I must have posted that same old bromide a thousand times before and NOW you want get your ass up on your shoulders?

Get the fuck out of here with that “What do I want?” Bullshit.

Go fuck yourself.

What is it that you want the Dems to do for you?

It was your fucking observation.

Back it up.

What do you want?

Answer the fucking question asshole or STFU.

Fuck off yourself. You took a gibe and want to make a federal case out of it?

Fuck you. Go get a hobby beside being the Larry police. I haven’t forgotten you went off for two weeks wanting me to agree MLK was revered in life.

Look back through what’s left of this fora and I GUARAN-DAMN-TEE I’ve said on more than a dozen occasions,

“Dems won’t do shit for you, but Republicans will do shit TO you!”


And if you don’t understand that IT IS YOUR PROBLEM and it ain’t my job to explain what you don’t get.

i asked you specifically to address your issue, that you brought up, that you felt ignored/malgned by the D-party, and they hadn't done enough for "blacks" (your word).

I treated you just the same as I would Red, or kid, or the troll, or anyone i have questions for or disagree with, and am looking for clarification or a more expansive answer,

Perhaps I should I treat you differently, because you're black.

Or i could treat you as I would anyone I have a question for.

And go fuck yourself

or answer the question you brought up.

[barton]

   Charters set out to do the same things those programs do but fall even further short because they are skimming their resources for profits.   

It's pften problematic when groups seek to monetize a public good.

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-oliver-charter-schools-2016-8

[josh]

Kamala Harris tweeted after the results were in last year in the Virginia Gubernatorial race that
"Thank Goodness that Virginia has been preserved from racism by Ralph Northam!"
Harris was among the first of the democrat Presidential hopefuls to throw Northam under the bus when the year book pictures became public.
Is there any evidence that Northam has, in any way, demonstrated racism in his adult life?
Just asking.

And if the democrats are so strong about giving convicted felons another shot at society, from voting rights on up, how do they square that with telling Northam to take a hike for a 35 year old year book photo?

He was an adult when that picture appeared. And he gets to keep voting. What is your point, other than the opposite of what your criticism would be if Harris HADN'T called for his resignation?

I suppose, to some, it is gratifying that a politician who won an election by falsely playing a race card is now about to be hoist on his own petard. And democrats are rightly  derided for the messy bed of identity politics they now squirm in.  But this is another example of politics run amok and a further reminder that without a change in course there will be no decent people willing to serve in public office.

"a politician who won an election by falsely playing a race card is now about to be hoist on his own petard"

Oh, is Trump being hoist on that petard, too?

Meanwhile, keep ignoring your racist party, like you always do.

Amoral hypocrite.

[barton]

Larry and Banks, why are y'all yelling at each other?  If you want more expanded answers, or clarification, just ask for it.  Or drop a hundred f-bombs on each other because it feels right. 

[bankshot1]

Larry and Banks, why are y'all yelling at each other?  If you want more expanded answers, or clarification, just ask for it.  Or drop a hundred f-bombs on each other because it feels right.

Bart that's exactly what I did. I asked Knicks to explain himself, he got defensive and told me to "get the fuck out of here" with my request for him to expand upon his observations.

Then I made fun of him and inferred he was being a cliche-spouting entitled asshole.

Just like i would any cliche-spouting entitled asshole who told me to get fucked.

[LarryBnDC]

Larry and Banks, why are y'all yelling at each other?  If you want more expanded answers, or clarification, just ask for it.  Or drop a hundred f-bombs on each other because it feels right.

Bart that's exactly what I did. I asked Knicks to explain himself, he got defensive and told me to "get the fuck out of here" with my request for him to expand upon his observations.

Then I made fun of him and inferred he was being a cliche-spouting entitled asshole.

Just like i would any cliche-spouting entitled asshole who told me to get fucked.

I made it clear from the get it WAS a joke! A fucking cliche. A gibe, a jape and you came back and said “EXPLAIN yourself!”

AGAIN, It’s an old bromide among black folks that gets tossed out when ever some right wing asshole says we’re on the Democratic plantation.

What the fuck more do you want now that I’ve said exactly what I meant twice?

You asked what the FUCK do I want in response to a fucking joke.

I told you it was a fucking joke and you said go fuck yourself.

[kidcarter8]

After fucking things up in Syria, Trump turns his sights on Iraq:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/world/middleeast/trump-iraq-iran-reaction.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Unfit.

Have we in fact left Syria?

Its unclear what the plan is in Syria.  At first we said we would only leave if we had assurances from Turkey that they wouldn't attack the Kurds.  Then there was word that we were beginning the draw-down.  And now Trump is saying yes, we are leaving, but no worries we can always come right back because "we have very fast airplanes."

If, somehow, we end up doing the right thing in Syria it will be because Trump was told (including by his own party in Congress) that he doesn't know what he is doing and takes that to heart.  Signs aren't good that this will happen.

Nothing is done til it is done

Right now troops are still in Syria.  The harpy press is banging these guys for answers to what Trump said in December - and did not act on.

[kidcarter8]

Va Dem  politicians - and Dems in general - want Northem out so that a new Dem can come in and seemingly restore order - making it more likely they keep Va Democratically run after 2021.

LOL.  And if the Democrats didn't want him out you would be calling them hypocrites.

Oh of course they want him to resign. He is a blot on the carefully constructed but hypocritical image that the party cares about blacks. Governor Northam is denying the racist charge but apologized anyway about the picture. So there is an impasse. Impeach him.

Black folks have no illusions about the parties. We know Democrsts don’t do shit FOR black people while the GOP is continually engaged in doing shit TO black people in particular and PoC in general.

Professional victim