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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10410 on: February 27, 2019, 05:48:35 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/feb/27/cardinal-pell-will-go-straight-to-jail-as-bail-application-is-withdrawn

His lawyer explained that it was just "vanilla sex." I am sure that makes the victims feel much better and suggests that we should be less upset with Cardinal Pell, right?

Hey, Tony, about those "good Christians" you are always pushing...

He could well be innocent.

His LAWYER said it was just v"vanilla sex."

What part of that is confusing to you? He isn't denying guilt, Bambi - he's trying to make it seem less bad by clarifying that the sex was ordinary and boring.

So, no, he cannot "be innocent" and it is not that he is convicted because of feelings about the Catholic Church.

He's guilty. His lawyer has admitted that he's guilty.

And your attempt to defend men from outrageous behavior is sickening.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10411 on: February 27, 2019, 05:50:30 PM »

http://thesciencepost.com/outbreak-of-dunning-kruger-disease-spreads-to-all-50-states/

Over 5 million cases across all 50 states.

There is also evidence (not mentioned in this article) that it has spread to Australia.

Bambi, you should get checked out - you have demonstrated some symptoms.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10412 on: February 27, 2019, 06:00:50 PM »

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/roger-stone-couldnt-resist-responding-to-cohens-testimony-and-may-be-jailed-as-a-result/

What part of "gag order" do you suppose Roger Stone was having a hard time understanding?!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10414 on: February 27, 2019, 06:03:34 PM »

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/roger-stone-couldnt-resist-responding-to-cohens-testimony-and-may-be-jailed-as-a-result/

What part of "gag order" do you suppose Roger Stone was having a hard time understanding?!

He thought she meant a ball gag.
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« Reply #10415 on: February 27, 2019, 06:16:49 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/27/full-text-michael-cohen-statement-to-congress

Wow.  Well, there's your national emergency.  With documentation.



LoL Dunning Kruger "outbreak." 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10416 on: February 27, 2019, 06:21:07 PM »

Nice to know that the best defense the Republicans on the Oversight Committee can come up with to charges that Trump is a racist is that he has a black friend.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10417 on: February 27, 2019, 06:23:40 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/feb/27/cardinal-pell-will-go-straight-to-jail-as-bail-application-is-withdrawn

His lawyer explained that it was just "vanilla sex." I am sure that makes the victims feel much better and suggests that we should be less upset with Cardinal Pell, right?

Hey, Tony, about those "good Christians" you are always pushing...

He could well be innocent.

His LAWYER said it was just v"vanilla sex."

What part of that is confusing to you? He isn't denying guilt, Bambi - he's trying to make it seem less bad by clarifying that the sex was ordinary and boring.

So, no, he cannot "be innocent" and it is not that he is convicted because of feelings about the Catholic Church.

He's guilty. His lawyer has admitted that he's guilty.

And your attempt to defend men from outrageous behavior is sickening.

'Outrageous behaviour' and this trial are completely different.
This is a criminal trial.

His lawyer has not admitted he's guilty.
I know what his lawyer was trying to do.
He was describing what Pell had been charged with and been convicted of....seemingly in an attempt to lessen the sentence.

If he is guilty then he must face the consequences of his actions...as everyone must.
"Do the crime, do the time."

However, I have a big problem with the evidence on which he was convicted.
Perhaps you can explain to me on what evidence in this case he should've been convicted.
Like how his liturgical vestments were 'parted/moved to the side' so oral sex could be performed, for example..

Pell’s legal team had told the jury that there were several flaws in the evidence.

Firstly, Pell was always at the front of the cathedral greeting parishioners after mass, after which he would return to the sacristy with assistants to help him disrobe. He was never alone.
His Master of Ceremonies, Monsignor Charles Portelli, testified that the assaults could not have happened because “I was with him the whole time he was robed on those days”.
There was testimony also that the sacristy was bustling after mass with at least a dozen people coming in and out, tidying up and getting changed.

The liturgical vestments Pell wore could not have been parted or moved to the side for oral sex to occur, as described by AA.


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"Beyond reasonable doubt'?
Not in my book.

I'm well aware of Pell, and the books and articles over the many years written about him, and allegations made about him...but I'm focusing on this case/trial.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10418 on: February 27, 2019, 06:25:43 PM »

Disbarred first, then stripped, censured, and expelled would be fair.

The “liar, liar, pants on fire” guy just set the bar for best defense of a corrupt president ever entered into the congressional record. Go Arizona!
Every state has its Gohmert.

Well, not sure who California has now that Darrell "Only indicted never convicted" Issa is out. Nunes?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10419 on: February 27, 2019, 06:39:14 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10420 on: February 27, 2019, 06:40:37 PM »

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/roger-stone-couldnt-resist-responding-to-cohens-testimony-and-may-be-jailed-as-a-result/

What part of "gag order" do you suppose Roger Stone was having a hard time understanding?!
Uh oh.

As I understand it, the gag order does not prevent Stone from publicly proclaiming his innocence.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10421 on: February 27, 2019, 06:41:11 PM »

The “liar, liar, pants on fire” guy just set the bar for best defense of a corrupt president ever entered into the congressional record. Go Arizona!

The GOP is an embarrassment.  From top to bottom.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10422 on: February 27, 2019, 06:44:05 PM »

The “liar, liar, pants on fire” guy just set the bar for best defense of a corrupt president ever entered into the congressional record. Go Arizona!

The GOP is an embarrassment.  From top to bottom.

Democrats wanted to preserve slavery in the South?
Republicans did not?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10423 on: February 27, 2019, 06:47:20 PM »

"Beyond reasonable doubt'?
Not in my book.

Boy, and with you having a chance to review every piece of evidence like you did!

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #10424 on: February 27, 2019, 06:48:53 PM »

The “liar, liar, pants on fire” guy just set the bar for best defense of a corrupt president ever entered into the congressional record. Go Arizona!

The GOP is an embarrassment.  From top to bottom.

Democrats wanted to preserve slavery in the South?
Republicans did not?
Even in upside down land they should know Lincoln is dead. There was a movie and everything.
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