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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[barton]

I don't see a hair sniff and peck on the head as quite in the same ballpark as wearing blackface and having that as your yearbook pic.

If the Dem takes a purity position on any physical contact with a member of opposite sex with the tiniest hint of Eros, then the field shrinks to zero.  Sure, Joe can take a lesson from this:  sniff babies heads, but not babes heads.  Head kisses for babies, formal handshakes for babes.  He still should not run, but for other reasons.

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I forget who it was that Josh responded to saying yes, not actively denouncing White Supremacy is the same as supporting it.

So is defunding the agencies charged with tracking and counter-acting it:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/homeland-security-disbands-domestic-terror-intelligence-unit

In the wake of this move, officials said the number of analytic reports produced by DHS about domestic terrorism, including the threat from white supremacists, has dropped significantly. People in and close to the department said this has generated significant concern at headquarters.

“It’s especially problematic given the growth in right-wing extremism and domestic terrorism we are seeing in the U.S. and abroad,” one former intelligence official told The Daily Beast.

[kiidcarter8]

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Monday that a pair of allegations of inappropriate kissing and touching against former Vice President Joe Biden should “not at all” disqualify him from the 2020 race.

“No. No, I do not,” Pelosi told reporters when asked if she thinks the allegations from two women are disqualifying.

“I don’t think that this disqualifies him from being president,” she said while walking to the House chamber. “Not at all.”

The same Nancy Pelosi who took all of 2 seconds to throw Virginia Governor Ralph Northam under the bus for appearing in blackface when he was in college.

LOL

LOL

This is the same poster who ignored his party's racist conduct and his party's kidnapping of children, keeping them from their parents.

LOL.

You were and are an amoral hypocrite who continues to refuse to engage in meaningful discussion.

Don't change the subject

Is it or is it not disqualifying for Biden?

If not, Al Franken wants in.

[Yankguy1]

Putting aside the clear differences between Franken and Biden, what does "disqualifying" even mean?   

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Is being accused of varying degrees of sexual assault by 14 women disqualifying?
Is bragging about getting away with unwanted kisses and grabbing women by their vaginas disqualifying?
How about cheating on a wife who just bore your son with a porn star and playboy model?

Apparently not.  So how can we even start a conversation about how Biden's behavior "disqualifies" him? 

Or is the supposition here that Democrats have higher standards than Republicans for the moral behavior of their representatives?

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Monday that a pair of allegations of inappropriate kissing and touching against former Vice President Joe Biden should “not at all” disqualify him from the 2020 race.

“No. No, I do not,” Pelosi told reporters when asked if she thinks the allegations from two women are disqualifying.

“I don’t think that this disqualifies him from being president,” she said while walking to the House chamber. “Not at all.”

The same Nancy Pelosi who took all of 2 seconds to throw Virginia Governor Ralph Northam under the bus for appearing in blackface when he was in college.

LOL

Are you a born asshole or were you just raised as such?

Those are not mutually exclusive alternatives.

Especially true for democrats whose party platform is constructed with double standards.

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President Trump lies about the aid received by Puerto Rico ($91 Billion is the damage, not the received or even planned aid) refers to the residents as “them” trying to take money away from “our farmers” while a WH spokeswoman revers to PR as “that country.”

Is there any possible way to honestly conclude that racism isn’t a motivator here? 

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Monday that a pair of allegations of inappropriate kissing and touching against former Vice President Joe Biden should “not at all” disqualify him from the 2020 race.

“No. No, I do not,” Pelosi told reporters when asked if she thinks the allegations from two women are disqualifying.

“I don’t think that this disqualifies him from being president,” she said while walking to the House chamber. “Not at all.”

The same Nancy Pelosi who took all of 2 seconds to throw Virginia Governor Ralph Northam under the bus for appearing in blackface when he was in college.

LOL

Are you a born asshole or were you just raised as such?

Those are not mutually exclusive alternatives.

Especially true for democrats whose party platform is constructed with double standards.

Again, what is the argument here given the fact that the "President" you worship has a long history with sexual assault, amoral exploitative behavior, and criminal action to keep it from America's voters?

That no standards is better than double standards?

[Yankguy1]

Who cares about no standards when tax "cuts" are in the platform?

[barton]

Is being accused of varying degrees of sexual assault by 14 women disqualifying?
Is bragging about getting away with unwanted kisses and grabbing women by their vaginas disqualifying?
How about cheating on a wife who just bore your son with a porn star and playboy model?

Apparently not.  So how can we even start a conversation about how Biden's behavior "disqualifies" him? 

Or is the supposition here that Democrats have higher standards than Republicans for the moral behavior of their representatives?

I think the logic for some Independents is "If I'm going to lean Democrat, they have to be the anti-Trump - pure in the ways he is not."  It's a binary, black/white, sort of thinking.  But I talk to people who seriously will not vote for anyone unless some party coughs up someone elegant and stainless and incorruptible.  It's sort of the other side of the coin of cynicism, the cynical view that all politicians are lying corrupt and sociopathic.  This attitude makes it oddly easier to vote for a Trump ("hey, they're all like that") and yet harder to vote for a moderately decent person with flaws.  Surprisingly few people actually use reasoned analysis to select a candidate. #gutbrain

[barton]

President Trump lies about the aid received by Puerto Rico ($91 Billion is the damage, not the received or even planned aid) refers to the residents as “them” trying to take money away from “our farmers” while a WH spokeswoman revers to PR as “that country.”

Is there any possible way to honestly conclude that racism isn’t a motivator here?

Yes, if you're good at fooling yourself.  Imagine if Puerto Rico were called, say, Rektehavn and was settled by Danes. 

Anyway, Trump turns anyone who didn't vote for him into "them," eh?  Which will be his downfall. 

[REDSTATEWARD]

What is laughable about the Biden affair is that he is the leader of the democrat polls for President and his opponents are in full schadenfreude. 
The object of his long- ago affectionate moment, Lucy Flores, says his sniffing of her hair was "unacceptable" and he is not a "worthy presidential candidate."
Elizabeth Warren pounced immediately: " I believe Lucy Flores".
Amy Klochubar: "No reason not to believe Flores".
Bernie Sanders : "No reason to doubt Flores'"
(Sanders' remarks  are pitiful since most of his 2016 campaign staff are living examples of sexual harassment)
In reality Biden did nothing more with Flores than he has been doing for years, all in view of the media who just looked away.
Now the party is in a quandary, this aging white man is sitting in the front seat of the Clown Car and he still is not even a declared candidate.
The democrats could not use a sexual  lie to derail a SCOTUS nominee.  So let's try the truth this time.
Even a truth everyone has known about for years and did not find objectionable.

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Is being accused of varying degrees of sexual assault by 14 women disqualifying?
Is bragging about getting away with unwanted kisses and grabbing women by their vaginas disqualifying?
How about cheating on a wife who just bore your son with a porn star and playboy model?

Apparently not.  So how can we even start a conversation about how Biden's behavior "disqualifies" him? 

Or is the supposition here that Democrats have higher standards than Republicans for the moral behavior of their representatives?

I think the logic for some Independents is "If I'm going to lean Democrat, they have to be the anti-Trump - pure in the ways he is not."  It's a binary, black/white, sort of thinking.  But I talk to people who seriously will not vote for anyone unless some party coughs up someone elegant and stainless and incorruptible.  It's sort of the other side of the coin of cynicism, the cynical view that all politicians are lying corrupt and sociopathic.  This attitude makes it oddly easier to vote for a Trump ("hey, they're all like that") and yet harder to vote for a moderately decent person with flaws.  Surprisingly few people actually use reasoned analysis to select a candidate. #gutbrain

Some good points here.  I think the attitude that "all politicians are corrupt" helps Trump a great deal.  Though the same people who make that assumption without evidence seem to be the ones who actively ignore evidence of Trump's real corruption, so go figure.

To the point, yes I expect that there are independents that will look to vote for the moral opposite of Trump.  I expect that there are Democrats looking to do the same (and think Biden may, for that and other reasons, dampen the enthusiasm of certain sectors within the Democratic party) but my point was really addressed to the Trumpist Republicans here highlighting the complaints against Biden and asking if they are “disqualifying.”  I’m genuinely curious what the objective is here.  Because, while I don’t think it’s intended, there is an inferred position here that Democrats are the more moral party, and thus should hold its candidates to a higher standard.

There is also the fact that Trump lays bare almost every bad faith argument made by the GOP during the Obama years.   You could not have come up with a better vehicle to expose their lies if you had designed one explicitly for that purpose.  And the shadenfreaude and fake inquiries into Biden’s fitness for office is another example of this.  Anytime a Republican utters the word “unpresidential” or some associated argument, the Democrats have a devastating retort; Donald Trump.  The GOP plan for dealing with this, it seems, is to just pretend that Trump doesn’t and never existed. 

I’m not convinced that is going to work for them.  Certainly will be a problem in 2020.

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What is laughable about the Biden affair...

What is laughable is that a Trumpist can start a post with "What is laughable about the Biden affair..."

[oilcan]

I think Jonathan Capehart's experience with Touchy Joe represents that Biden is just a physically warm person who has set loose boundaries with everyone and not just cute babes.  From his column in The Evil Commie Jeff Bezos-Owned SlimeRag:

Thrilled with how the event went, I asked Biden what he thought after we went backstage. It was there that our close-talking former vice president stepped deep into my personal space, rested his hands on my shoulders, touched his head to mine and said, “You got it, man! You got it, man!” Was I uncomfortable? Sure. Not many people get in my personal space or do so with such gusto. Did I mind? Truth be told, no. This was a person I respected, and I appreciated the gesture, especially since the last time I saw Biden was at his annual summer party for the media and their families at the vice president’s residence and he took aim at me with a water gun.

Remains to be seen where he will land on unlicensed water pistol control....