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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

For those who think this warming of the Earth is just part of the normal cycle, a repost:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3ubzlFGxX-t3gMQnwHWYxuijPtncPy5dA-gZeqqotPDtr42V6g2Y6qlHI

Why isn't it a normal cycle?  Why did you limit the graph to a time period that is so limited?

1880 to the present is the period for which scientists have consistently gathered global climate data.  (but ice cores and analysis of geological strata and fossil composition also helps to unearth longer trends in the past)  Science uses a curve and then extrapolates from that, and compares the curve to other variables than temperature.   It is possible to spot trends when you have over a century of measurements.   This is how our present rise in surface temps and changes in storm systems, seawater temps and currents, glacier and ice cap shrinkage, etc. were all predicted back in the 70s and 80s. 

It's the same scientific method that allows us to know that sunspots have regular cycles, even though we haven't had astronomers with telescopes keeping records for 20,000 years.  Or that whales are mammals that evolved from land based herbivores, even though we don't have time machines that carry us back millions of years.  Inference and extrapolation are basic tools of science, the science you trust when you step onto a jet or undergo brain surgery.   I'll bet, if your daughter needed such surgery, you would choose the neurologist who attended Johns Hopkins, not the science denier who went to Oral Roberts University, College of Faith Healing.

LOL
Oral Roberts does not train Neurologists .
Kinda destroys any credibility you assert(as in none)

[REDSTATEWARD]

About those cycles attributed to, you know, 'scientists'.
Lake Aerie and  Superior  — broke records for water levels this May. Lakes Michigan and Huron could follow suit.

Naturally, climate change is getting the blame. “We are undoubtedly observing the effects of a warming climate in the Great Lakes,” says Richard Rood, a University of Michigan climate scientist.

But just a few years ago, climate scientists were insisting that a warming climate would cause water levels to decline.

In 2008, Science Daily reported on a study that attributed the decline in Great Lakes water levels to global warming. The researchers who conducted the study said that the drop “raised concern because the declines are consistent with many climate change predictions.”

In 2009, Columbia University’s Earth Institute informed us that “most climate models suggest that we may see declines in lake levels over the next 100 years; one suggests that we may see declines of up to 8.2 feet.”

In 2011, the Union of Concern Scientists said that “scientists expect water levels in the Great Lakes to drop in both summer and winter, with the greatest declines occurring in Lakes Huron and Michigan.”

In 2013, the Natural Resources Defense Council said that “it’s no secret that, partially due to climate change, the water levels in the Great Lakes are getting very low.”

That same year, Think Progress reported that “Several different climate models for the Great Lakes region all predict that lake levels will decline over the next century.”

Since the Great Lakes account for 21% of the world’s surface fresh water, these stories were all wrapped in doom-and-gloom scenarios about the impact on drinking water, shipping, recreation, and so on.

The very next year, however, water levels started rising.

So what are scientists saying now? Simple. They’re now claiming that the fall and rise of Great Lakes’ water levels are due to climate change.

“Climate change is driving rapid shifts between high and low water levels on the Great Lakes,” is the new “consensus.”

The truth, of course, is that water levels in the Great Lakes vary over time. And, as a matter of fact, they varied far more in the past than they do now. A U.S. Geological Survey notes that “prehistoric levels exceed modern-day fluctuations.”


Prehistoric Great Lakes Levels

USGS studies show that prehistoric levels of Lake Michigan and Lake Huron exceeded modern-day fluctuations ( Fig. 3). Prehistoric variations in the levels of Lake Michigan have exceeded (by as much as a factor of 2) the 1.6-meter range of fluctuation that spanned the 1964 low level and the 1985-87 high level. One documented high-level episode occurred in the 17th century before the region was widely settled. Lake Superior levels show a similar history, although the range of prehistoric fluctuation exceeded 2 meters in comparison with the modern range of 1.0 meter. Studies by the USGS and the Michigan Sea Grant Program conducted at Bay Mills, Michigan, on the south shore of Lake Superior, near Sault Ste. Marie have documented episodes of low lake levels over the past 2,000 years with mean levels 1.5 meters lower than the present mean level of 183.4 meters. Such episodes of higher and lower levels resulted from natural climate changes in the region. Greater and lesser lake-level fluctuations related to future natural climatic changes are not only possible, but are probable. The impact of possible global warming on the magnitude and frequency of water-level changes remains uncertain.



https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/FS-022-96/

[LarryBnDC]

---Former ICE Director Applauds POTUS’ ‘First Great Steps’ in Mexico Migration Deal: Now We Must Implement---https://ijr.com/former-ice-director-applauds-potus-mexico-migration-deal/


Chuck and Nancee are besides themselves. Dems were going all out for cheap nanees and carinos in 2020.

The deal was made in March. The Prez made a big deal of it this month. And the deal... well, I'll let you tell me how amazing it was in a year.

But you keep plugging the amazing success.

Not the biggest fan of the Donald but on the issue of immigration and security he is more right than the dem leadership to the minds of most. Negotiations were ongoing so what? Mexican prez announced it at the same time.

No one has mentioned the Mexican National Guard was just approved by the government in April...
So presently there ain’t no 6000 MNG troops to send to the border.

Don’t believe the hype...

[LarryBnDC]

For those who think this warming of the Earth is just part of the normal cycle, a repost:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3ubzlFGxX-t3gMQnwHWYxuijPtncPy5dA-gZeqqotPDtr42V6g2Y6qlHI

Why isn't it a normal cycle?  Why did you limit the graph to a time period that is so limited?

1880 to the present is the period for which scientists have consistently gathered global climate data.  (but ice cores and analysis of geological strata and fossil composition also helps to unearth longer trends in the past)  Science uses a curve and then extrapolates from that, and compares the curve to other variables than temperature.   It is possible to spot trends when you have over a century of measurements.   This is how our present rise in surface temps and changes in storm systems, seawater temps and currents, glacier and ice cap shrinkage, etc. were all predicted back in the 70s and 80s. 

It's the same scientific method that allows us to know that sunspots have regular cycles, even though we haven't had astronomers with telescopes keeping records for 20,000 years.  Or that whales are mammals that evolved from land based herbivores, even though we don't have time machines that carry us back millions of years.  Inference and extrapolation are basic tools of science, the science you trust when you step onto a jet or undergo brain surgery.   I'll bet, if your daughter needed such surgery, you would choose the neurologist who attended Johns Hopkins, not the science denier who went to Oral Roberts University, College of Faith Healing.

LOL
Oral Roberts does not train Neurologists .
Kinda destroys any credibility you assert(as in none)

You fucking idiot.

[REDSTATEWARD]

For those who think this warming of the Earth is just part of the normal cycle, a repost:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3ubzlFGxX-t3gMQnwHWYxuijPtncPy5dA-gZeqqotPDtr42V6g2Y6qlHI

Why isn't it a normal cycle?  Why did you limit the graph to a time period that is so limited?

1880 to the present is the period for which scientists have consistently gathered global climate data.  (but ice cores and analysis of geological strata and fossil composition also helps to unearth longer trends in the past)  Science uses a curve and then extrapolates from that, and compares the curve to other variables than temperature.   It is possible to spot trends when you have over a century of measurements.   This is how our present rise in surface temps and changes in storm systems, seawater temps and currents, glacier and ice cap shrinkage, etc. were all predicted back in the 70s and 80s. 

It's the same scientific method that allows us to know that sunspots have regular cycles, even though we haven't had astronomers with telescopes keeping records for 20,000 years.  Or that whales are mammals that evolved from land based herbivores, even though we don't have time machines that carry us back millions of years.  Inference and extrapolation are basic tools of science, the science you trust when you step onto a jet or undergo brain surgery.   I'll bet, if your daughter needed such surgery, you would choose the neurologist who attended Johns Hopkins, not the science denier who went to Oral Roberts University, College of Faith Healing.

LOL
Oral Roberts does not train Neurologists .
Kinda destroys any credibility you assert(as in none)

You fucking idiot.

Is that your final answer?
LOL

[facilitatorn]

Oral Roberts is incapable of training neurosurgeons because the amount of skullfucking you have to receive to accept fundie ideas renders you incapable of performing complex tasks.

As someone so fundie his face is caved in, you should understand this.

[josh]

For those who think this warming of the Earth is just part of the normal cycle, a repost:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3ubzlFGxX-t3gMQnwHWYxuijPtncPy5dA-gZeqqotPDtr42V6g2Y6qlHI

Why isn't it a normal cycle?  Why did you limit the graph to a time period that is so limited?

1880 to the present is the period for which scientists have consistently gathered global climate data.  (but ice cores and analysis of geological strata and fossil composition also helps to unearth longer trends in the past)  Science uses a curve and then extrapolates from that, and compares the curve to other variables than temperature.   It is possible to spot trends when you have over a century of measurements.   This is how our present rise in surface temps and changes in storm systems, seawater temps and currents, glacier and ice cap shrinkage, etc. were all predicted back in the 70s and 80s. 

It's the same scientific method that allows us to know that sunspots have regular cycles, even though we haven't had astronomers with telescopes keeping records for 20,000 years.  Or that whales are mammals that evolved from land based herbivores, even though we don't have time machines that carry us back millions of years.  Inference and extrapolation are basic tools of science, the science you trust when you step onto a jet or undergo brain surgery.   I'll bet, if your daughter needed such surgery, you would choose the neurologist who attended Johns Hopkins, not the science denier who went to Oral Roberts University, College of Faith Healing.

LOL
Oral Roberts does not train Neurologists .
Kinda destroys any credibility you assert(as in none)

You fucking idiot.

Is that your final answer?
LOL

It was a metaphor, Ward.

You remember? Those things you almost never recognize?

[REDSTATEWARD]

For those who think this warming of the Earth is just part of the normal cycle, a repost:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3ubzlFGxX-t3gMQnwHWYxuijPtncPy5dA-gZeqqotPDtr42V6g2Y6qlHI

Why isn't it a normal cycle?  Why did you limit the graph to a time period that is so limited?

1880 to the present is the period for which scientists have consistently gathered global climate data.  (but ice cores and analysis of geological strata and fossil composition also helps to unearth longer trends in the past)  Science uses a curve and then extrapolates from that, and compares the curve to other variables than temperature.   It is possible to spot trends when you have over a century of measurements.   This is how our present rise in surface temps and changes in storm systems, seawater temps and currents, glacier and ice cap shrinkage, etc. were all predicted back in the 70s and 80s. 

It's the same scientific method that allows us to know that sunspots have regular cycles, even though we haven't had astronomers with telescopes keeping records for 20,000 years.  Or that whales are mammals that evolved from land based herbivores, even though we don't have time machines that carry us back millions of years.  Inference and extrapolation are basic tools of science, the science you trust when you step onto a jet or undergo brain surgery.   I'll bet, if your daughter needed such surgery, you would choose the neurologist who attended Johns Hopkins, not the science denier who went to Oral Roberts University, College of Faith Healing.

LOL
Oral Roberts does not train Neurologists .
Kinda destroys any credibility you assert(as in none)

You fucking idiot.

Is that your final answer?
LOL

It was a metaphor, Ward.

You remember? Those things you almost never recognize?

I never, ever, metaphor.

[kiidcarter8]

6000

"We have explained that there are 6,000 men and that they will be deployed there," Mexican Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard said after leaving trade talks in Washington on Thursday. He said talks would continue Friday.

https://www.dw.com/en/mexico-sends-6000-national-guardsmen-to-control-migrants-at-guatemalan-border/a-49096442

[josh]

6000

"We have explained that there are 6,000 men and that they will be deployed there," Mexican Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard said after leaving trade talks in Washington on Thursday. He said talks would continue Friday.

https://www.dw.com/en/mexico-sends-6000-national-guardsmen-to-control-migrants-at-guatemalan-border/a-49096442

---Former ICE Director Applauds POTUS’ ‘First Great Steps’ in Mexico Migration Deal: Now We Must Implement---https://ijr.com/former-ice-director-applauds-potus-mexico-migration-deal/


Chuck and Nancee are besides themselves. Dems were going all out for cheap nanees and carinos in 2020.

The deal was made in March. The Prez made a big deal of it this month. And the deal... well, I'll let you tell me how amazing it was in a year.

But you keep plugging the amazing success.

Not the biggest fan of the Donald but on the issue of immigration and security he is more right than the dem leadership to the minds of most. Negotiations were ongoing so what? Mexican prez announced it at the same time.

No one has mentioned the Mexican National Guard was just approved by the government in April...
So presently there ain’t no 6000 MNG troops to send to the border.

Don’t believe the hype...

[josh]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/18/bikers-bring-30-000-meals-new-mexico-migrants-facility/3726760002/

We should not be needing the bikers to bring food to our concentration camps. The government should be taking care of it. That they are not is beyond criminal negligence.

[josh]

For those who think this warming of the Earth is just part of the normal cycle, a repost:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3ubzlFGxX-t3gMQnwHWYxuijPtncPy5dA-gZeqqotPDtr42V6g2Y6qlHI

Why isn't it a normal cycle?  Why did you limit the graph to a time period that is so limited?

1880 to the present is the period for which scientists have consistently gathered global climate data.  (but ice cores and analysis of geological strata and fossil composition also helps to unearth longer trends in the past)  Science uses a curve and then extrapolates from that, and compares the curve to other variables than temperature.   It is possible to spot trends when you have over a century of measurements.   This is how our present rise in surface temps and changes in storm systems, seawater temps and currents, glacier and ice cap shrinkage, etc. were all predicted back in the 70s and 80s. 

It's the same scientific method that allows us to know that sunspots have regular cycles, even though we haven't had astronomers with telescopes keeping records for 20,000 years.  Or that whales are mammals that evolved from land based herbivores, even though we don't have time machines that carry us back millions of years.  Inference and extrapolation are basic tools of science, the science you trust when you step onto a jet or undergo brain surgery.   I'll bet, if your daughter needed such surgery, you would choose the neurologist who attended Johns Hopkins, not the science denier who went to Oral Roberts University, College of Faith Healing.

LOL
Oral Roberts does not train Neurologists .
Kinda destroys any credibility you assert(as in none)

You fucking idiot.

Is that your final answer?
LOL

It was a metaphor, Ward.

You remember? Those things you almost never recognize?

I never, ever, metaphor.

Simile when you say that.

[facilitatorn]

He can’t metaphor these days, on account of his syphilitic dementia.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/syphilis/symptoms-causes/syc-20351756

Seek help, Red. Seek help.

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/18/bikers-bring-30-000-meals-new-mexico-migrants-facility/3726760002/

We should not be needing the bikers to bring food to our concentration camps. The government should be taking care of it. That they are not is beyond criminal negligence.

Good people.  Love that Jax Teller.

Thanks for the link.

[josh]

Hang on to that Saudi "emergency" arms deal, just a moment Mr. President.

The Senate may actually decide to do its job - the one you tried to get around!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/09/politics/saudi-arabia-resolution-chris-murphy-todd-young/index.html