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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

Barack Obama called a cop stupid in July 2009 and lost white support for the rest of his presidency.

Because the facts did not back him up.

No, it had nothing to do with the facts.

But little you have to say does.

[josh]

"Send her back"...nothing wrong with that, not racist either.

This is what can happen when people buy a ticket to ride the politics express and start spruiking their point of view.
Some people might disagree with that point of view and be offended.

Nothing wrong with Trump's telling people that if they don't like it in America to go back to where they came from.

Such an ignorant fool.

When where they came from is the United States, it's absurd. It's racist under any circumstance, but especially when he adds his insults about the places to it.

And he seems to object to people trying to fix where they live when it's here, while exhorting them to stay home and try to fix where they were if they are seeking asylum. I would say he's a hypocrite, but what he means is "we don't want your kind around here!"

Back in the 60s and 70s we had a slogan: "America - love it or leave it!" It was wrong then. It's wrong now.

[josh]

MSNBC is great television this afternoon.

Recounting the NC Trump rally (it's a RALLY, you dumb fucks) as a danger to society.

It’s a rally targeting a member of Congress with lies and stands there while the crowd screams, “Send her back!”

This motherfucker is George Wallace on steroids. This is gonna get ugly and you think people reacting to this are dumb?

Remember when I said kiid, Red and luee were being measured for their Brown shirts?

Any questions, now?

Well, no - that isn't what the rally was for.  And opposition is fair game, especially when they have been aggressive with their own mouths.

Kiiid says, "I don't care if the President is racist. I stand with him! They deserve it!"

Kiiid, you fit with him well.

[josh]

  What is your response to the POTUS lying to people, and slandering a U.S. Congresswoman?  No idea what "heh" means.

Again, please explain that earlier post.   What do you think of Trump fabricating total lies about a Congresswoman?

Lies go both ways

Kiiid says: "It's okay if the president lies to the public and whips his crowd and his part of the public into a violent rage."

What lies did they tell about him, Kiiiid? Got an example?

And do you think that it is appropriate for the President of the United States to do that?

[barton]

   TRUMP quotes Omar as saying: “You don’t say ‘America’ with this intensity. You say ‘al-Qaida,’ it makes you proud. Al-Qaida makes you proud. You don’t speak that way about America.”

THE FACTS: This is a wholly distorted account of what the Minnesota Democrat said. She did not voice pride in the terrorist group.


Trump is referring to an interview Omar gave in 2013. In it, she talked about studying terrorism history or theory under a professor who dramatically pronounced the names of terrorist groups, as if to emphasize their evil nature.


“The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘al-Qaida,’ he sort of like — his shoulders went up” and he used a menacing, intense tone, she said. Her point was that the professor was subtly rousing suspicions of Muslims with his theatrical presentation, while pronouncing “America” without the intensity he afforded the names of terrorist groups.

At no point did she say “al-Qaida” should be uttered with intensity or pride and that “America” shouldn’t.   

- AP

Double check these facts, if you want.   But you still need to accept the reality:  The President of the United States committed slander, and defamed a member of Congress, in public, on the record.   He singled out a person from a religious and ethnic minority, slandered them, and also directed a racist slur at them.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?  IS THAT THE AMERICA YOU WANT TO LIVE IN?  DO YOU WANT YOUR GRANDCHILDREN TO SEE THIS PRESIDENT, AS CHILDREN OFTEN DO WITH PRESIDENTS, AS A ROLE MODEL???

GIVE A STRAIGHT FUCKING ANSWER.   

[kidcarter8]

Buh  bye, drone.

No messin with 45.

[josh]

Even the president seems to think that what he did was out of line, Kiiid and Bambi-ignorance!

Speaking to reporters, Trump claimed to have attempted to stop the chant Wednesday night by resuming his speech -- "I started speaking very quickly," he said -- an assertion refuted by video of the event. Trump waited 13 seconds before speaking as the crowd loudly shouted the three words.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-send-her-back-chant
or
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/politics/trump-disavows-ilhan-omar-send-her-back-chant/index.html


Of course, that was a lie, too:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/07/18/brianna-keilar-fact-checks-trump-rally-chant-send-her-back-crn-sot-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/ant

[josh]

Meet the new deal, same as the old deal!

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/17/trump-iran-deal-obama-1417801?fbclid=IwAR17plzRkpduhUfvwsRMsNJbKXZ7vedUEPCIP7ChDa_DTBvKoo4UYjKmMXk

[josh]

[bankshot1]

someone told Der Facscist jerk-off that he was turning the Four Dems Dames of color into heroes.

He scripted "send them home"

And his robotic racist Repubs mindlessly re-chanted it over and over

Welcome to Nuremburg 1934

or North Carolina 2019

and even Gobbels and McConnell told him he was treading in dangerous waters

[barton]

Buh  bye, drone.

No messin with 45.

That was dishonest.   And, in a politics forum, bad faith.   You won't answer the question, you won't provide any facts to support your childish rejection of a real dialog or debate.   I am probably the last Independent on this forum you could have had a real dialogue with, but no, you have been brainwashed by the Trump cult of personality.   You are a pathetic piece of shit.  And don't have the balls to confront the question three members have put to you.   

[barton]

The rally folk do seem robotic, Banks.   Could it be we're living in a dystopian version of Westworld?   

[josh]

https://www.phillyvoice.com/amy-wax-penn-professor-racist-comments-more-whites-fewer-nonwhites-immigration/?fbclid=IwAR1B0RDmqHe6OcIAAdIVGqvqYZwlyAZeH8THs6O1Y0NLx2mL1GfuhPpandk

[barton]

Is that a racist bone I'm seeing in Amy's body?

[REDSTATEWARD]

Barack Obama called a cop stupid in July 2009 and lost white support for the rest of his presidency.

Because the facts did not back him up.
It quickly became a pattern.

Yeah, they did. Cop arrested a guy in his house after he knew it was his house. He was arrested because he didn’t kiss the cop’s ass hard enough.

In your telling.

Nope.  Those were the facts, reported all over the media.   If you have evidence that contradicts them, post it.

Those were not the facts. As Obama admitted.