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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17505 on: July 29, 2019, 11:21:25 AM »

A majority say they have no plans to vote for the man, while a majority think he collided and/or obstructed justice in some way.


Well, then you are good for 2020.  Right?

Just wait it out - and we will all be fine.

Oh kiidcarter8 bless your dullard mind.

More people voted for the other candidate in 2016, and Trump is still "president" is he not?

Oh, come on now - win more states

Pretty straighforward

You already flipped Ohio, right?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17506 on: July 29, 2019, 11:35:19 AM »

Dammit.  Trump went to Wharton.

And I went to Harvard and MIT.

Sometimes I took the bus. Sometimes I walked. And sometimes I drove or was driven.

I also went to Northeastern, BU, Lesley, and UMass Boston. Maybe even Emerson once or twice.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17507 on: July 29, 2019, 11:37:15 AM »

LOL Unless you ignore the wage increases which have largely benefitted the lower job holders.  The latest GDP number beat the forecasts due to increased consumer spending to the point of reaching its highest level of confidence since the Clinton years.

LOL at yourself, REDSTATEWARD.  More 3+ quarters of GDP growth and higher job growth under Obama but you think your contention that the economy only "took off" after Trump is supported by modest wage increases?  LOL again.

And look at what we have given for it.  Blowing up the deficit with tax cuts that amounted to giveaways to the wealthy, raping the environment while doing nothing about global warming (not even car makers want to follow Trump down that hole) allowing banks to run roughshod over consumers again, and trade wars that are doing permanent damage as China finds other sources for their goods, all so that we can have modest wage growth that is still below target and less than what would be expected in an economy that has been at or near full employment since before Obama left office.

Not to mention the argument that modest wage growth also justifies support for a racist dangerously unqualified "president" who is dividing the country while actively undermining democracy not just at home but abroad. 

Keep waiving that foam finger REDSTATEWARD! 

LOL.
Maybe you should join the Gang The Can’t Get Their Facts Straight( the dems running for President)
You’d fit right in.
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17508 on: July 29, 2019, 11:39:04 AM »

And I prefer her letter to this crap. Don't you?

N.J. School Board Member: ‘My Life Would Be Complete’ If Rep. Rashida Tlaib Died

http://huffp.st/Yt21JR5?fbclid=IwAR1US-lsod5I5ykHeqKvOJJL51E_o_8a4apfs6QrDuieFaQLQYY-A5L4FSM

Vile deplorable racist some would say. Just a combat veteran trained to protect the country from its enemies others would exclaim.

If you can’t defend your country without vile deplorable racism, you don’t have much of a country to defend.

Why is this automatically racism?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17509 on: July 29, 2019, 11:42:30 AM »

Trump's corporate tax cuts and de-regulations put jet fuel into an already well running economy, and was a huge gift to the wealthy. How many more tax cuts or stripping away of safeguards will be needed when the economy eventually slows, and we as a nation are drowning in debt? This is a time to be fiscally conservative and paying down debt, rather than run it up, with irresponsible tax cuts for those who least need it. And Republicans know it, but are too afraid to argue against the idiot racist puppet President, and are beholden to thier donors.  The rainy days are coming, and it may be a fucking deluge, and the corps and wealthy have yachts to ride out the storm. 

The middle-class will receive the Republicans thoughts and prayers, and maybe some government issued paper towels.

Thumbs up. 

My only quibble is with the bold section.  Tax Cuts are the Republican answer to anything and everything, economy up and down, deficits up or down, we need more tax cuts!  This would be the case with or without Donald Trump.  In fact, you could argue that its Trump's going all-in on conservative dogma despite running against it in 2016 that is shielding him from investigations of his lawlessness. 

McConnell wouldn't be blocking impeachment and election security bills if Trump wasn't filling the courts with nutty judges, promising cuts to the social safety net, and hadn't delivered those tax cuts to his corporate overlords.

Or maybe he would, who knows.  Maybe like REDSTATEWARD rooting for the team is more important to McConnell than actual results.
What impeachment bill has McConnell “ blocked”?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17510 on: July 29, 2019, 11:43:23 AM »

And I prefer her letter to this crap. Don't you?

N.J. School Board Member: ‘My Life Would Be Complete’ If Rep. Rashida Tlaib Died

http://huffp.st/Yt21JR5?fbclid=IwAR1US-lsod5I5ykHeqKvOJJL51E_o_8a4apfs6QrDuieFaQLQYY-A5L4FSM

Vile deplorable racist some would say. Just a combat veteran trained to protect the country from its enemies others would exclaim.

If you can’t defend your country without vile deplorable racism, you don’t have much of a country to defend.

Why is this automatically racism?
That's a fair question.  What would you call it?
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17511 on: July 29, 2019, 11:49:18 AM »

Civic nationalism
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17512 on: July 29, 2019, 12:04:47 PM »

Civic nationalism

Revealing that you see comments related to two American citizens as "nationalism."  Nor do those comments serve any civic purpose.  So basically a bad term that reflects poorly on you for suggesting it.

If you don't think his comments are about race, they most obviously are about religion.  So Islamophobic, Bigoted, and Xenophobic work.  Also Ignorant, as they misrepresent the positions these Reps actually have taken.

Hurtful to his constituents and wildly inappropriate for an elected public servant, certainly.  Which is what matters here.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17513 on: July 29, 2019, 12:08:30 PM »

When different races are involved in a discussion, it is race-related - not necessarily "racist" onsomeone's part

Know the difference.  Mr Leonard is a Trump Administration-supporting US war veteran.  And is showing his nationalism in advancing the President's message.  Whether you are on his side of things or not, racism is not involved here when he makes statements against thepositions of Ms Tlaib and Ms Omar.

Peace.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17514 on: July 29, 2019, 12:16:40 PM »

When different races are involved in a discussion, it is race-related - not necessarily "racist" onsomeone's part

Know the difference.  Mr Leonard is a Trump Administration-supporting US war veteran.  And is showing his nationalism in advancing the President's message.
Advancing a racist message is racist.
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Whether you are on his side of things or not, racism is not involved here when he makes statements against thepositions of Ms Tlaib and Ms Omar.
There is really nothing from your side you will not excuse, is there?
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Peace.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17515 on: July 29, 2019, 12:17:38 PM »

When different races are involved in a discussion, it is race-related - not necessarily "racist" onsomeone's part

Know the difference.

When someone makes assumptions about another person and/or misrepresents the views of that person based on their race, that is racism. 

And as I said, the comments were more obviously about their religion, and I made alternate suggestions that were more accurate descriptors than one that is based on country of citizenship when all involved are American citizens.   Again, that you think a muslim being criticised by a christian is an issue of "nationalism" that is revealing.

Mr Leonard is a Trump Administration-supporting US war veteran.  And is showing his nationalism in advancing the President's message.

The President's message is that American Muslims can not be trusted, and are less American than Christians.  Thank you for confirming.

Whether you are on his side of things or not, racism is not involved here when he makes statements against thepositions of Ms Tlaib and Ms Omar.

Peace.

I'd say its a willful and unsupported leap to say that "racism is not involved" in these critiques, but as I said, if you want to argue that it is unsupported by the particular quoted comments I provided some accurate alternatives.
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17516 on: July 29, 2019, 12:19:18 PM »

Ms Tlaib was misrepresented?
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17517 on: July 29, 2019, 12:24:37 PM »

“My point is that if a US Congresswoman wants to starve herself to death during an Anti-Trump publicity seeking Faux Hunger Strike while protesting a Federal Agency Of The United States - GOOD RIDDANCE!”

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“I will not give into fear or intimidation by any one person or organization!”   I am Anti-Sharia Law not Anti-Islam ...... Congresswoman Omar has said terrible things about our nation while refusing to condemn Radical Islam ...... Her District is the #1 Terror Recruitment Spot in the entire Nation!”





Not racist

Not misrepresenting
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17518 on: July 29, 2019, 12:27:24 PM »

Let me see if I'm following the nuances of Kid's point.  If you wish death on members of Congress who are both Muslim and happen to be critical of Trump, and also post Islamophobic images like Sharia Barbie (an Islamophobic fake ad for “Sharia Barbie” that is described as coming with “JIHAB, BRUISES & QURAN.”) you are advancing Trump's message.  Some message.  You must be so proud, Kid.

And, BTW, give us one "terrible thing" Omar has said about our nation.  An actual quote, in context.  I'll wait. 

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17519 on: July 29, 2019, 12:29:07 PM »


Not racist


Sharia Barbie, depicted with a black eye, is NOT racist?  What planet are you from, Meeblezorgnon?

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